060 NLRB 26
Todd-Pacific Shipyards, Inc.
In the Matter of TODD-PACIFIC SHIPYARDS, INC. and INDUSTRIAL PLANT
FIRE FIOIITERS, LOCAL No. 22938, AFL
Case No. 19-R-1391.-Decided January 1-5,1945
Messrs. Edward G. Dobrin and Raymond R. Smith , of Seattle,
Wash., for the Company.
Messrs. George E. Flood and Fred Wettrick, of Seattle, Wash., for
the Federal.
Mr. L. Presley Gill, of Seattle, Wash., for the Council.
Miss Frances Lopinsky , of counsel to the Board.
DECISION
AND
DIRECTION OF ELECTION
STATEMENT OF THE CASE
Upon a petition duly filed by Industrial Plant Fire Fighters Union,
No. 22938, AFL, herein called the Federal, alleging that a question
affecting commerce had arisen concerning the representation of em-
ployees of Todd-Pacific Shipyards, Inc.,' Seattle, Washington, herein
called the Company, the National Labor Relations Board provided for
an appropriate hearing upon due notice before Maurice M. Miller,
Trial Examiner.
Said hearing was held at Seattle, Washington, on
October 23 and 24, 1944.
At the hearing, Seattle Metal Trades Coun-
cil, chartered by the Metal Trades Department of the AFL, herein
called the Council, asked and was granted leave to intervene on behalf
of itself and of its affiliates, Building Service Employees Union, Local
6, herein called the BSU, and Ship Scalers Union Local 589, herein
called the Scalers.
The Company, the Federal, and the Council ap-
peared and participated.
All parties were afforded full opportunity
to be heard, to examine and cross-examine witnesses, and to introduce
evidence bearing on the issues.
The Council moved the dismissal of
the petition on the ground that the proceeding concerns a jurisdic-
tional dispute between affiliates of the same parent organization.
The
motion is hereby denied.
The Trial Examiner's rulings made at the
I At the bearing upon motion of the Company , the pleadings were amended as above.
60 N. L. R. B., No. 5.
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hearing are free from prejudicial error and are hereby affirmed.
All
parties were afforded an opportunity to file briefs with the Board.
Upon the entire record in the case, the Board makes the following :
FINDINGS OF FACT
I. THE BUSINESS OF THE COMPANY
Todd-Pacific Shipyards, Inc., a Washington corporation, operates
yards in Tacoma and Seattle, Washington, where it is engaged in ship-
building and ship repair.
At the Seattle yard, the only operation
directly involved in this proceeding, the Company produces destroyers
under the direct supervision of the United States Navy, its entire
facilities being devoted to this work. In constructing these vessels,
the Company employs such materials as,sheet steel, lumber, metal
castings, forgings, and pipe, approximately 75 percent of which is
derived from sources outside the State of Washington.
All vessels
produced are delivered to the United States Navy for use in con-
nection with the war effort.
We find that the operations of the Company affect commerce within
the meaning of the National Labor Relations Act.
II.
TIIE ORGANIZATIONS INVOLVED
Industrial Plant Fire Fighters Union, Local 22938, and Seattle
Metal Trades Council, both affiliated with the American Federation
of Labor, are labor organizations admitting to membership employees
of the Company.
III.
THE QUESTION CONCERNING REPRESENTATION
The Company has refused to grant recognition to the Federal as
the exclusive bargaining representative of its firemen and fire watch-
men contending that it is bound by contract to recognize the Council
as the sole bargaining representative of all of its employees.
Since
we hereinafter find that the said' contract has not covered firemen and
fire watchmen,, we find it to be no bar to a present determination of
representatives.
A statement of a Board agent, introduced into evidence at the hear-
ing, indicates that the Federal represents a substantial number of
employees in the unit hereinafter found appropriate 2
% The Field Examiner reported that the Federal submitted a certified list of members and
a list of persons signing designations, containing the names of 118 firemen and fire watch-
man ; that there are approximately 130 employees in the appropriate unit ; and that all
designations were dated in the month of August 1944.
The Council does not claim to
represent firemen or fire watchmen employed by the Company , but claims an interest in the
proceeding by reason of its contractual relationship with the Company.
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We find that a question affecting commerce has arisen concerning
the representation of employees of the Company, within the meaning
of Section 9 (c) and Section 2 (6) and (7) of the Act.
J.V. THE APPROPRIATE UNIT; THE DETERMINATION OF REPRESENTATIVES
The Federal requests a unit of all firemen and fire watchmen em-
ployed at the Company's Seattle yard.
The Company and the Coun-
cil contend that the unit requested is inappropriate because firemen
and fire watchmen are represented by the Council under a master
agreement negotiated by and between the Council and Pacific Coast
Shipbuilders, herein called the Shipbuilders, an employers' associa-
tion formed for the purpose of carrying on collective bargaining on
behalf of its members, including the Company.
Soon after the Company went into operation,3 it joined the Ship-
builders and took part in the negotiation of the master agreement
entered into on April 23, 1941, between the Shipbuilders and the Metal
Trades Department of the AFL, the Pacific Coast District Metal
Trades Council, Local Metal Trades Councils, and affiliated Inter-
national Unions.
Although the agreement defines its scope as "all
work and activities of the employer in connection with the construc-
tion of new vessels on the Pacific Coast," the closed-shop provision of
the contract was made to apply only to employees in the classifications
therein set out.
Firemen and fire watchmen were not listed among
these classifications.
The Federal came into being on September 23, 1941.
Prior to that
date firemen and fire watchmen had attempted unsuccessfully to ob-
tain representation through unions in the Council but none would take
them into membership.
They called upon an AFL organizer to aid
them in their efforts.
Upon failing to find an international union
affiliated with the American Federation of Labor which would accept
these employees into membership, the organizer petitioned the Ameri-
can Federation of Labor for a Federal charter for the firemen and
fire watchmen at the Company's plant. The charter for the Federal
was issued.
The Federal then applied for admission into the Coun-
cil,and upon being refused, petitioned the Board for certification.
Bowman, labor relations officer of the Company, promised recogni-
tion to the Federal if it would withdraw its petition.
The petition
was withdrawn, and Bowman entered into an oral agreement with
the Federal, extending to it all of the terms of the master agreement,
including the closed shop.
This arrangement continued until Bow-
man's death in 1943.
The Company's new labor relations officer re-
fused to admit the existence of the oral agreement, insisting that all
8 That is, the Company's predecessor , Seattle-Tacoma Shipbuilding Corporation.
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bargaining must be done through the Council.
A new attempt was
then made by the Federal to affiliate with the Council which again
refused it admittance for the reasons (1) that the Federal is not
affiliated with the Metal Trades Department, and (2) that the master
agreement precludes any organization becoming a party to it which
was not a signatory of the original agreement negotiated in 19414
Thereupon, the Council, for the first time, seriously asserted jurisdic-
tion over firemen and fire watchmen employed at the Company's yard.
In July 1944, the Shipbuilders by letter accepted the BSU as a party
to the terms of the master agreement, to represent employees "whose
duties are those of fire guards and fire watchmen."
It is clear from the record that the firemen and fire watchmen at
the Company's yard constitute an identifiable group; that their skills,
training and functions materially differ from those of production and'
maintenance employees; that their supervision is entirely separate
from that of other employees ; that they were not, until 1944, consid-
ered as coming under the master agreement and that they have, since
1941, been represented in a separate unit. It is equally clear that
similar employees are represented by the Council in yards of other
members of the Shipbuilders and that they are now specifically in-
cluded within the coverage of the master agreement which governs
labor relations policy of all members of the Shipbuilders. In view
of the history of bargaining involving firemen and fire watchmen at
the Company's plant, and their identifiability, we are of the opinion
that they may constitute a separate appropriate unit, apart from the
multi-employer unit to which other employees of the Company and
other firemen and fire watchmen in the vicinity belong.5
On the other
hand, because of the existence of the master contract which now cov-
ers such employees, they may properly be bargained for by the Coun-
cil as part of the larger unit.
Under the circumstances, we are of the
opinion that the determination of the unit issue, with respect to these
employees, should depend, in part, upon the desire of such employees
to be expressed in the election hereinafter directed.
Consequently,
we shall make no final determination of the unit at this time but shall
defer the determination pending the results of said election.
Accordingly, we shall direct that the question concerning repre-
sentation which has arisen be resolved by an election by secret ballot
among the firemen and fire watchmen who were employed by the Com-
pany during the pay-roll period immediately preceding the date of
the Direction of Election herein, subject to the limitations and addi=
tions set forth in the Direction.
There shall be excluded from said
voting group all supervisory employees with authority to hire, pro-
0 The BSU was not a party to the 1941 agreement but was later accepted as one
5 See Matter of Glen Alden Coal Co., 45 N L R. B 738.
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mote, discharge, discipline, or otherwise effect changes in the status of
employees or effectively recommend such action.
DIRECTION OF ELECTION
By virtue of and pursuant to the power vested in the National
Labor Relations Board by Section 9 (c) of the National Labor Rela-
tions Act, and pursuant to Article III, Section 9, of National Labor
Relations Board Rules and Regulations-Series 3, as amended, it is
hereby
DIRECTED that, as part of the investigation to ascertain representa-
tives for the purposes of collective bargaining with Todd-Pacific Ship-
yards, Inc., Seattle, Washington, an election by secret ballot shall be
conducted as early as possible, but not later than thirty (30) days from
the date of this Direction, under the direction and supervision of the
Regional Director for the Nineteenth Region, acting in this matter as
agent for the National Labor Relations Board, and subject to Article
III, Sections 10 and 11, of said Rules and Regulations, among the fire-
men and fire watchmen in the Company's employ, who were employed
during the pay-roll period immediately preceding the date of this
Direction, including employees who did not work during said pay-roll
period because they were ill or on vacation or temporarily laid off,
and including employees in the armed forces of the United States who
present themselves in person at the polls, but excluding those employees
who have since quit or been discharged for cause and have not been
rehired or reinstated prior to the date of the election, and excluding
all supervisory employees with authority to hire, promote, discharge,
discipline, or otherwise effect changes in the status of employees or
effectively recommend such action, to determine whether they desire to
be represented by Industrial Plant Fire Fighters, Local No. 22938,
AFL, or by Seattle Metal Trades Council, chartered by the Metal
Trades Department of the AFL, for the purposes of collective bargain-
ing, or by neither.
: CHAIRMAN MILLIS took no, part in the consideration of the above
Decision and Direction of Election.