193 NLRB 553
Dibert, Bancroft & Ross Co., Ltd.
DIBERT, BANCROFT & ROSS CO., LTD.
553
Dibert, Bancroft & Ross Co., Ltd., and its wholly owned
subsidiary, Ross Steel Works, Inc. and Shopmen's
Local Union 619,
International
Association
of
Bridge, Structural and Ornamental Iron Workers,
AFL-CIO.
Cases
15-CA-3885
and
15-CA-3885-2
October 6, 1971
DECISION AND ORDER
BY MEMBERS FANNING, JENKINS, AND
KENNEDY
On April 19, 1971, Trial Examiner Ramey Donovan
issued his Decision in the above-entitled proceeding,
finding that Respondent had engaged in certain
unfair labor practices and recommending that it cease
and desist therefrom and take certain affirmative
action, as set forth in the attached Trial Examiner's
Decision. He also found that Respondent had not
engaged in certain other alleged unfair labor practices
and recommended dismissal of such allegations.
Respondent and the General Counsel filed exceptions
to the Trial Examiner's Decision and supporting
briefs.
Pursuant to the provisions of Section 3(b) of the
National Labor Relations Act, as amended, the
National Labor Relations Board has delegated its
powers in connection with this proceeding to a three-
member panel.
The Board has reviewed the rulings of the Trial
Examiner made at the hearing and finds that no
prejudicial error was committed. The rulings are
hereby affirmed. The Board has considered the Trial
Examiner's Decision, the exceptions and briefs, and
the entire record in the proceeding, and hereby adopts
the findings, conclusions, and recommendations of
the Trial Examiner.1
ORDER
TRIAL EXAMINER'S DECISION
RAMEY DONOVAN, Trial Examiner : On August 5, 1970,
Shopmen's Local Union 619, International Association of
Bridge, Structural, and Ornamental Iron Workers, AFL,
herein the Union or Iron Workers, filed a charge against
Respondent, Dibert, Bancroft & Ross Co., Ltd., alleging
the discriminatory discharge of Spencer Foster. Another
charge involving the Union and Respondent was filed on
August 28, 1970, alleging the discriminatory discharge of
Joseph Wilson. A consolidated complaint issued under date
of October 26, 1970. Set forth in the complaint as violations
of Section 8(a)(1) and (3) of the Act were various alleged
acts
of interference,
restraint, and coercion and the
suspension and discharge of Wilson and the discharge of
Foster. Respondent denied the commission of the alleged
violations. The case was tried in Amite, Louisiana, on
January 27 and 28, 1971.
1. JURISDICTION
Dibert, Bancroft & Ross Co., Ltd., and its wholly owned
subsidiary,
Ross Steel
Works, Inc.,
Respondent, are
Louisiana corporations and jointly operate a manufactur-
ing foundry and rolling mill at Amite, Louisiana, where
each of them maintains its principal office and place of
business.
During a representative 12-month period, each of the
foregoing companies sold and shipped manufactured goods
valued in excess of $50,000 directly to points outside
Louisiana.
Respondent is an employer engaged in commerce within
the meaning of the Act.
The Union is a labor organization within the meaning of
the Act.
H. THE ALLEGED UNFAIR LABOR PRACTICES
One of the elements in this case is the contested
supervisory status of certain individuals. On this aspect we
have not only extensive evidence in the instant case but we
have also before us, as part of the record, a hearing in Case
15-RC-4450 held on September 16, 1970, and a decision
thereon, dated October 7, 1970, by the Board's Regional
Director, acting pursuant to authority delegated by the
Board. i
Pursuant to Section 10(c) of the National Labor
Relations Act, as amended, the National Labor
Relations Board adopts as its Order the Recommend-
ed Order of the Trial Examiner and hereby orders that
Respondent, Dibert, Bancroft & Ross Co., Ltd., and
its wholly owned subsidiary, Ross Steel Works, Inc.,
Amite, Louisiana, its officers, agents, successors, and
assigns, shall take the action set forth in the Trial
Examiner's Recommended Order.
i In the absence of exception, we adopt pro forma the Trial Examiner's
recommended dismissal of the Section 8(a)(3) and (1) allegations as to
employee Foster We find it unnecessary to pass on the Trial Examiner's
finding that Supervisor Lofton's interrogation of employee Warren was not
a violation of Section 8(a)(1), because even a contrary finding would not
affect
our
Order herein , which already contains a prohibition against
coercive interrogation
Sequence of Events
The General Counsel introduced in evidence a telegram
addressed to "J. A. Ross; Dibert, Bancroft and Ross Co.,
Ltd." Other than the photostat copy of the telegram that is
an exhibit, the record is virtually barren of any evidence
regarding the telegram. It was received in evidence
pursuant to a brief colloquy of agreement by counsel for the
parties.2 At the top of the telegram is printed or typed,
i In the RC case, the petitioner was the International Molders and
Allied Workers Union, AFL-CIO. The instant Union, the Iron Workers,
was an intervenor in the RC case.
2 Hopkins (G C) " . . General Counsel's 2, a telegram which related to
July 12, 1970, from Iron Workers to Employer, Respondent herein I
believe Mr. McFall agrees that we might introduce this by agreement as
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evidently by the telegraph company, "Telegram Received
by Telephone." The telegram, as well as we can determine,
was sent by union representatives on Sunday, July 12, 1970,
at 6:59 p.m., possibly from Amite, Louisiana, the town
which is also the site of Respondent's plant.; Since July 13,
1970, 8
am, is stamped on the document, we assume
that this is the date of delivery, evidently by telephone.4
There is no reference to a J A. Ross in the instant record
but in the Board's RC case decision there is mention of
John Ross, president of the Company.
Assuming that Respondent received the telegram on
Monday, July 13, we do not know what internal
communication occurred within the Employer's organiza-
tion
or
when it took place. Dautsch, manager of
Respondent's rolling mill (Ross Steel), testified that the first
time he learned of the union advent "was late in that week
of the 14th . about Wednesday or Thursday or maybe
later . .
I would say Thursday or Friday" when Waits,
executive vice president, showed him the telegram. Hendry,
the foundry superintendent, testified that on July 16 when
employee Dan Hawkins was called to the foundry office for
questioning about a union card mcident,5 Hawkins asked
him if he had received the telegram or did he know
anything about it. According to Hendry, "I [Hendry] didn't
know anything about it, the telegram" and Hawkins then
told him that he, Hawkins, was a union committeeman.
Regarding the same aspect, Hawkins testified that when he
was in the office he said to Hendry, ". . there should be a
telegram stating that the committeemen, in the front office,
it should have been there Monday. I said, isn't that right,
Raymond [Hendry]. He said yes, I reckon. Q. He said
what? A He said yes, I reckon."6
Since we have mentioned one aspect of events on July 16,
1970, it is appropriate that the entire July 13-16 period now
be described.
Higgenbotham
was an employee in Respondent's
foundry from June 12, 1969, until his discharge on
September 9, 1970. The foundry had two shifts, the night
shift from 3:30 p.m. to 12 and the day shift starting at 7 a.m.
The foundry is engaged in the making of molds. Hendry is
the foundry supertntendent7 and he has two leadmen,
Wallace on days, and Chavers at night.8 On the day shift
the foundry has 74 employees, including 6 journeymen
molders and 6 apprentice molders. At night, there are 15,
sometimes 19, employees. Chavers is the sole journeyman
molder and leadman on the night shift. Hendry is at the
plant during the day shift.9
General Counsel's 2 Mr McFall (Respondent) yes " The exhibit was then
received in evidence
1 The only other geographical location that appears in the document is
"Arabi, La;" the address of Rigby, apparently one of the senders The
telegram stated that employees D Hawkins, J
Wilson, R Wallace, L G
Anthony, and M Ford were the organizing committeemen of the Union
and cautioned that discrimination against these employees or others would
be a violation of the Act
+ There may also have been a confirming mail delivery The limited
evidence before us on all these aspects accounts for the frequent use of
"assume," "evidently," "probably," and "may "
The incident will be described in detail at a later point
This is not very clear Evidently the testimony is that Hawkins said
there should be a telegram about the committeemen in the Company's
front office and it should have been there Monday (it was sent Sunday,
July 12, at 6 55 p in ) Hawkins asked Hendry if that was not right and the
latter said, "yes, I reckon "
The testimony of Higgenbotham was that Chavers was
his "boss" on the night shift, When Higgenbotham first
started he assisted on the molds but then Chavers told him
to operate the Bobcat.to Thereafter, the employee worked
on the Bobcat and Chavers would tell him what task he
wanted the Bobcat to perform at any particular time. At
times when the Bobcat broke down, Chavers would assign
Higgenbotham to some other task, such as helping out on
the molding work.
On Tuesday night, July 14, employee Hawkins, one of the
committeemen named in the Union's telegram of July 12 to
Respondent, gave Higgenbotham a few union authoriza-
tion cards. After placing the cards in his lunch bag,
Higgenbotham carried the bag and cards home with him at
the end of his midnight shift that night. He signed and
dated one of the cards the next day, July 15. When
Higgenbotham got ready to go to work the next day,
Wednesday, July 15, he placed the cards in his lunch bag
and went to the plant for the 3:30 p.m. shift. As was his
custom and that of other employees, Higgenbotham, as he
entered the plant on his way to punch the timeclock, placed
his lunch bag on a table that was near or around the corner
from the timeclock. He punched in and went to work.
During the course of the shift, according to Chavers, one
of the men working with Chavers, otherwise not identified
by the witness, was walking by and knocked a bag off a
bench or table. Chavers states that he, Chavers, saw some
union cards fall out of the bag and he saw Higgenbotham's
signature on one of the cards. On the basis of the foregoing,
Chavers spoke to Higgenbotham later that evening during
the shift.
Higgenbotham states that, as Higgenbotham was placing
oil in the Bobcat, Chavers came over and asked him who
gave him the union cards. When the employee remained
silent, Chavers repeated the question. Higgenbotham said
that a guy down by the furnace had given him the cards.
Chavers asked, "was it a little chunky guy and was he a
Foster." Higgenbotham said, yes. Chavers testified that he
asked Higgenbotham where he got the union cards and,
when Higgenbotham feigned ignorance, Chavers asked him
if he had signed a card. Chavers states that he also asked,
"did somebody in the ingot section give you a union card."
Chavers denies mention of a short chunky guy or reference
to "a Foster."
The Trial Examiner believes that the following findings
are fully warranted at this point. Chavers saw some union
cards, including one signed by Higgenbotham, fall out of a
7 Schmitt, the works manager, is Hendry's immediate superior
s For convenience we refer to Chavers, Jr , as Chavers
9 Respondent's position was that Chavers was not a supervisor and
Chavers was one of its witnesses Chavers at one point in testifying about
the pouring of metal stated that the pouring is usually completed by 5 p m ,
"when Raymond [Hendry I gets ready to go home " Later in his testimony,
Chavers stated that Hendry stayed until 5 30 and sometimes 6 p in , but
that Hendry and Schmitt would return at night three or four times a week
and might stay I or 2 hours At the RC hearing, Waits, Respondent's
executive vice president, called by Respondent on the matter of the status
and duties of all disputed job status categories, including that of Chavers,
testified that in the foundry there was a supervisor on the day shift only.
He said that on the night shift there was only the leadman although "the
superintendent,
will occasionally pass by, you know " At the instant
hearing, Chavers was asked who ran the night shift if no supervisor was
present He replied "Nobody
I am just a leadman "
10 A frontend loader used to move material and to clear the area
DIBERT, BANCROFT & ROSS CO., LTD.
lunch bag in the plant, when the owner of the bag was not
immediately present. Chavers asked Higgenbotham who
gave him the cards and whether he had signed a card. There
is no evidence that the cards were passed during working
time. Chavers had no knowledge that the cards had been
passed or signed during working time and, in fact, he asked
no questions directed to this aspect.' i His primary interest,
as soon as he became aware of the cards, evidently, was to
find out the source of the cards. He had already ascertained
that Higgenbotham had signed a card.
After the foregoing conversation between Chavers and
Higgenbotham, the latter, at quitting time, punched out and
picked up his lunch bag (which contained the union cards)
on the way out. Both Higgenbotham and Chavers agree
that the latter was in the vicinity of the timeclock and the
lunch bag and saw Higgenbotham pick up his lunch bag
and go out. Chavers testified credibly that he, customarily,
was the last man to leave the plant at night and would see to
it that the foundry fires and such matters were in proper
stance. It would also be our opinion that Chavers would
normally seek to insure that all the men on the night shift
were out of the plant by the time he left. And of course he
knew what was in the lunch bag since it had come to his
interested attention earlier that evening.
Higgenbotham evidently
walked through the plant
parking lot to his car that was parked on the public street on
which the parking lot immediately abutted. Higgenbotham
then remembered that he was to give the cards to Hawkins,
his fellow employee on the night shift. Higgenbotham was
standing under a street light and stood behind his own car
which was not far from the guard shack at the parking lot
driveway. He motioned or waved to Hawkins to come over
Either at or about that time or when Hawkins left his own
car in the parking lot and came over to Higgenbotham, the
latter saw Chavers in, or get in, his, Chavers' car, look at
Higgenbotham, and drive to the parking lot exit.12 As
Chavers came to the road which ran past the lot, and before
he entered the road and turned to the right thereon, he
looked in both directions, left and right. To the left, parked
on the road, was Higgenbotham's car, with Higgenbotham
and Hawkins standing right behind it under the street light.
Chavers admittedly saw Higgenbotham hand the lunch bag
or the cards to Hawkins. Chavers turned right on the road
and drove off. The General Counsel alleges illegal
surveillance by Respondent on a public road.
The Trial Examiner is of the opinion that in the above
incident the surveillance theory is too finely spun to
warrant a conclusion of illegal surveillance
Assuming,
arguendo,
that
Chavers is a supervisor or agent of
Respondent, his presence on, and emergence from, the
plant parking lot at the time and under the circumstances
described was normal and unexceptional. As far as appears,
the incident occurred when no one but Chavers, Higgen-
botham, and Hawkins was on or in the vicinity of the
parking lot. Chavers was the last to leave the plant. All
three men were legitimately where they were. It would have
11 Respondent had a rule forbidding solicitation on working time
i2 Higgenbotham describes Chavers' car as having been parked in the
lot but only one or two car lengths from Higgenbotham's car on the street
11 If the evidence was that Higgenbotham and Hawkins were sitting in a
car and Chavers came over to peer in, or drove up beside the other car to
peer in, or if the two men were standing and Chavers parked near them
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been difficult for them not to have seen each other. And
they did see each other. Chavers was under no obligation to
close his eyes or to drive straightway into the road from the
lot without looking.
Higgenbotham and Hawkins had
elected to stand under a street light, immediately proximate
to and directly in front of the lot where Chavers' car was
parked and proximate and to the left of the exit from the
lot. Admittedly Chavers saw what passed between the two
men and he was probably interested to see the transaction.
But, in our opinion, it was a tableau presented before his
eyes and almost commanding his attention, absent inability
to see persons and objects.13 We find no illegal surveillance
as alleged.
According to Chavers, the next day, July 16, when he
came to work, he reported the events of the night before to
Hendry. He told Hendry that he, Chavers, "had seen some
union
cards
[and
one?]
with
Truman's [Truman
Higgenbotham] name on it and I had seen Truman have it
in his bag and gave it to Dan [Hawkins ]." Hendry then told
Chavers that he, Hendry, wanted to talk to Higgenbotham
when the latter reported for work.14
Accordingly, Chavers told Higgenbotham to come to the
office, stating, according to Chavers, that "I wanted to talk
to him." Present in the office with Higgenbotham were
Schmitt, Hendry, and Chavers. When the employee had
thus appeared before the panel of three, Chavers states that
he then asked Higgenbotham "Where he got the union
cards." The reply was that Dan Hawkins gave the cards to
him. Hendry and Chavers testified that Chavers also asked
Higgenbotham why he had signed a card and the employee
said that he did not know or did not know what he was
doing. Chavers asked the employee if he was "satisfied with
his job" and if Chavers had not given him "a better break
than anyone else." 15 Hendry states that he, Hendry, then
"at this point" told Higgenbotham "that the Company did
not want a union" and that he could not work for the
Union on company time. Higgenbotham denies that
anything was said about working time or about a company
rule against solicitation on such time but that Hendry
mentioned how some union men had been on strike for 6 or
8 months and that the Union did not guarantee a man
anything. The session ended when Higgenbotham was told
to go to work and to tell Hawkins to report to the office.
Upon receiving this intelligence from Higgenbotham,
Hawkins reported to the office shortly after Higgenbotham
had left that locus. He too was confronted by the tribunal
of Chavers, Hendry, and Schmitt.
Chavers once again initiated the proceeding and said that
he had heard that Hawkins was for the Union and that he
had given some cards to another employee. Hawkins said
that he did not deny the accusation and that there was a
telegram from the Union to the Company in which he was
named as one of the union committeemen. Chavers said
that he saw Hawkins passing cards. Hawkins replied that
"you saw me receiving the cards" and that it was outside
and remained for a clearly perceptible period, a different conclusion might
be warranted
14 Hendry confirms this and also mentions that Chavers had told him
that he had spoken to Higgenbotham later the preceding night "concerning
him [Higgenbotham ] signing the cards "
i5 The reference was to work assignment by Chavers
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the plant on the public road in front of the plant. Chavers
acknowledged this to be the fact 16 but said, "well, we got a
sign outside [on the guard shack] for [regarding] soliciting."
Hendry told Hawkins that the Company had been good to
Hawkins by giving him a job and a paycheck every week
and asked Hawkins "why don't you quit, if you just don't
like the way the Company is run." 17 Hawkins said, "Hell,
no." Then there was a period of silence in the office,
punctuated only by Hendry's tapping of his pencil on the
desk.18 According to Hendry, Schmitt asked Hawkins "why
he did not cease his union activities."
It is the Trial Examiner's opinion that, with respect to the
interrogation of Higgenbotham and Hawkins by Chavers,
Hendry, and Schmitt on the afternoon of July 16, it is
unnecessary to find whether or not Chavers was a
supervisor within the meaning of the Act. The issue is
whether what occurred on the aforementioned occasions
constituted interference, restraint, and coercion in violation
of Section 8(a)(1) of the Act by Respondent. We believe
that the answer is yes, and we so find.
Respondent's information and the crux of its concern in
interrogating the two employees was clearly revealed as the
fact that Higgenbotham had signed a union card and had
union cards in his lunch bag. Respondent, because, as it
stated, the Company did not want a union, sought out and
discovered the source of the Higgenbotham cards. This is
what Chavers' interrogation of Higgenbotham on July 15
was all about. Indeed, aside from awareness of cards and
Higgenbotham's signature on one of them, and the single
overt action of the passing of the cards on a public road
outside the plant, there was no other foundation for the
convening of an impressive management tribunal on the
following day. The focus and thrust of the interrogatory
proceedings was interference with, and discouragement of,
the right of employees to sign union cards and to affiliate
with a union. Any mention of a plant antisolicitation rule
was peripheral and secondary.
Chavers' affirmatively executed role as interrogator, sua
sponte, on the night of July 15, when unquestionably, in our
opinion, he was the sole person in charge of the night shift
and its personnel, identifies him with management. Chavers
spoke to Higgenbotham as the "boss" of the night shift
demanding answers from a subordinate. No rank-and-file
employee would have assumed such a role and neither
Higgenbotham nor any other employee would have felt
obliged to respond to such authoriative interrogation by a
fellow rank-and-file employee.
Additionally, however, pursuant to his identification as a
management agent and not as some officious employee,
Chavers duly reported the Higgenbotham and Hawkins
incident to Superintendent Hendry the first thing on the
following day. Full and plenary adoption and ratification
of the previous night's interrogation by Chavers was
promptly forthcoming from Hendry. Indeed, the adoption
and ratification was so complete that a program for
16 The incident of the night before has been described above
it Chavers testified that among the statements made to Hawkins by
Hendry, was, "didn't you know the Company didn't want a union "
ie When asked about this particular aspect, Chavers stated that Hendry
"was writing something down-1 don't remember if he tapped it "
19 Warren is not alleged to have been discriminatorily discharged
20 Respondent asserts that since Lofton voted in Board elections at the
continuation
of
Chavers' interrogation was arranged
forthwith albeit with a more impressive and inquisitorial
setting. Higgenbotham and Hawkins were individually
brought to the locus of all foundry authority, the
superintendent's office, and were confronted by a tribunal
of the works manager, the superintendent, and Chavers.
The latter, in our view, was present as a management agent
and not in the role of an employee who had simply
witnessed some serious injury to plant personnel, property,
or discipline. The evidence reveals Chavers as occupying
and fully discharging the role of management interrogator
and protagonist, with the full approbation, support, and
assistance of the works manager and the superintendent.
Beginning with Chavers' interrogation of Higgenbotham on
the evening of July 15 and continuing with the interroga-
tion of Higgenbotham and Hawkins in the superintendent's
office by Chavers, Hendry, and Schmitt, we find a course of
interference, restraint, and coercion in violation of Section
8(a)(1) of the Act.
The complaint allegations include interrogation of an
employee about his union sympathies by Supervisor Troy
Lofton.
Laray Warren testified that he was discharged the night
after he was asked about his union sentiments by Troy
Lofton. Since Warren's discharge slip is dated August 27,
1970, the conversation apparently took place on August 26.
According to Warren, Lofton asked him, what do you think
about this Union. Warren replied that he thought it would
be a good idea for the Union to come in. Lofton asked what
reasons Warren had for this conclusion. Warren said, "the
way things is now, I don't know who is my foreman;
anyone who walks through with a white helmet, tell me
what to do [and] if I don't they would fire me, you don't
have any special jobs. He [Lofton] looked at me and shook
his head and walked off." The following night on the job,
Lofton asked Warren and some other employees about
mixing some sand. Warren said the sand had been mixed.
Lofton said, if you do not mix the sand, you know where
the timeclock is. At quitting time, Lofton took Warren and
three other fellow employees to the personnel office with
their
timecards.
Warren's termination slip states:
"Terminated. Insubordination. Would not do as foreman
told him." 19
In the Trial Examiner's opinion, the above incident, the
night before Warren's discharge, in which Lofton asked
him what he thought about the Union and why, was not a
violation of Section 8(a)(1) of the Act. In context, including
Warren's candid reply, we do not regard Lofton's inquiry as
coercive interrogation. The fact that Lofton shook his head
at the reply may have indicated Lofton's incomprehension
that any employee would not know who his foreman was or
that an employee would favor a union for such a reason; or
perhaps Lofton was simply indicating his own lack of
agreement with Warren regarding a union.20
the plant his remarks to an employee could not be regarded as coercive in
any event However, the Board decision of October 1970 in the RC case
held that
the
melters
were supervisors
and Lofton was a melter
Respondent at the instant hearing admitted the allegation in the complaint
that Lofton was a supervisor. At the time Lofton voted he was the melter's
first helper according to Wilson, an employee and personal friend of
Lofton
The termination slip that Warren received refers to Lofton as a
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The Discharge of Spencer Foster
Foster was employed by Respondent from February 1968
to Tuesday, July 14, 1970, when he was discharged.
Respondent contends that Foster was a leadman and
therefore a supervisor at the time of his discharge. Foster
testified in the instant hearing that shortly after the advent
of the new rolling mill manager, Dautsch, in March 1970,
Terrell, a supervisor and metallurgist, changed Foster'sjob
In the foundry from that of leadman to ladleman and that
he was a ladleman at the time of his discharge.
As is apparent, the question of whether certain persons
were or were not supervisors has arisen in the instant case,
e.g., Chavers, supra, and now Foster. Not only do we have a
plenitude of testimony in the instant case itself on such
issues but we also have before us, as part of the record, the
testimony and Board decision in the RC case that dealt
with the question of who was or was not a supervisor. The
RC matters antedated the instant case since that hearing
and decision were in September and October 1970,
respectively.
Insofar as it concerns us, the parties at all proceedings are
agreed, and the RC case decision finds, that the following
are supervisors: Wailes, executive vice president; Schmitt,
works
manager;
Hendry,
foundry
superintendent;
Dautsch, rolling mill manager. Although not involved in
the instant case, it also appears that our foregoing comment
is applicable to such supervisors as the core room foreman;
the machine shop manager; machine shop superintendent;
cleaning room foreman and so forth.
The basic issue in the RC case was the composition of the
appropriate unit. Simply stated, the unit was a production
and maintenance employee unit, excluding supervisors. The
employer took the position that its leadmen had no
supervisory authority and should be included in the unit.
The Unions would exclude as supervisors four leadmen:
Saucier-machine
shop;
Chavers,
Jr.,
and
Wallace-foundry;
Williams-rolling
mill.
The Board
decision found that the four leadmen aforementioned were
not supervisors and should be included in the unit. The
Employer had other leadmen but, other than these four,
their inclusion in the unit had not been disputed. Another
category that was disputed in the RC proceeding was that
of three melters. The Board decision stated:
Intervenor [Iron Workers], contrary to Employer, takes
the
position that Employer's three melters,
Alex
Rodriguez, Hugh Rymes and Troy Loften, are supervi-
sors within the meaning of the Act. Petitioner takes no
position on the supervisory status of any of these three
individuals.
It was held in the decision that the melters were supervisors
and therefore they were excluded from the unit.
At the instant hearing, Respondent has taken the position
foreman and stated that the discharge was for failure to obey the foreman
It also is fairly clear that it was Lofton who terminated Warren and others
21 As to Chavers ,
a leadman, Respondent contends in the instant
hearing, that he is not a supervisor
22 Foster was called as a witness at that hearing by the Intervenor, Iron
Workers His testimony was directed to the jobs and authority of the three
melters, abovementioned . In the course of his testimony he described his
own functions and it is on this aspect that Respondent now relies for its
contention that Foster was a leadman and a supervisor As we have
that Spencer Foster, an alleged discriminatee, was a
leadman and a supervisor.21 In addition to evidence
adduced at the instant hearing, Respondent's position is
based on testimony given by Foster at the RC hearing.22
The first issue before us regarding Foster is whether he
was a ladleman at the time of his discharge, as he contends,
or whether he was still a leadman with the additional
limited duties of a ladleman as Dautsch and Terrell
testified.23
At the RC hearing, Foster testified that his Job was that of
leadman. He makes no mention of, and does not describe,
his job as that of ladleman. Dautsch testified in the instant
case that, when he came with the Company in March 1970,
the leadman was pouring the steel and the ladleman was
setting the rod on which the steel was poured. Dautsch
states that "in the Industry, the man that pours the steel
always sets his own rod." The witness testified that if the
rod is not set properly, it is dangerous, particularly to the
pourer and thus the practice for the pourer to set his own
rod. Also, it was believed that the work of a ladleman alone
was not a full-time task for an employee. Accordingly, in
April, Dautsch instructed Terrell to have the leadmen also
perform the work of a ladleman, i.e., setting the rods for the
steel that the leadman was pouring. Terrell corroborates
this. There was no other change in the position of the
leadman.
Foster, at the RC hearing, in describing his physical task
as leadman, testified that, after the steel was melted, it
would be poured into large pots or ladles; the crane would
carry the ladle to Foster and he poured the steel; after he
poured, the men working with him would pull the steel out
of the mold and stack it. In testifying at the instant hearing
regarding his job of ladleman, Foster stated that he would
check the ladle and set the rod and the steel is poured; then
he checks on the condition of the task "and I tell the crane
driver to pick it up . . . and I go follow the ladle . . . and
after he poured the steel in it, it was my Job to pour the steel
into the mold."
The Trial Examiner believes that, at the time of his
discharge, Foster was a leadman who, as part of his job,
also performed what had previously been the work of a
ladleman, i.e., setting the rod. It may be that the added task
left him less time on some of the things that were done after
the steel was in the mold but, in our opinion, he was still
basically a leadman.
Insofar as concerns us, there are two sets of leadmen in
the foundry. First, there is a mold making operation that
works two shifts, one days and one night. Schmitt is the
highest supervisor over this grouping, and under Schmitt is
Superintendent Hendry. Hendry is a supervisor who has
Wallace as a leadman on the day shift and Chavers as
leadman on the night shift. On the day shift there are over
70 employees and on the night shift 15 to 19. Schmitt,
mentioned, at the RC hearing no party had contended that all leadmen
were supervisors although
the Unions had contended contrary to the
Employer that four named leadmen were supervisors The Employer
asserted that no leadmen were supervisors. Foster, at the time he testified
in September 1970, at the RC hearing, was a discharged employee as of
July 1970, on whose behalf a charge had been filed in August.
23 Terrell is a metallurgist and a professional employee He is also a
supervisor immediately under Dautsch, the rolling mill manager
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Hendry, and Wallace are present throughout the day shift
from 7 a in. to 3 p.m. While Hendry or Schmitt may on
occasion return to the plant at night for limited periods
after working from 7 a.m. to 5 or 5.30 p.m., it is our opinion
that Chavers, the night leadman and the only molder on the
3:30 to 12 shift, is basically the only person of authority
who is predominantly present and in charge at night.
As previously mentioned, we have found it unnecessary
to make a finding whether Chavers is a supervisor, since, in
the episode described earlier, he was, in our opinion, clearly
a management agent. This does not mean that he would not
have found that Leadman Chavers was a supervisor if
resolution of that issue was essential to our decision.24 Nor
does it mean that we would have reached the same
conclusion regarding Wallace as in the case of Chavers. In
short, there are leadmen and leadmen and a decision
regarding one is not necessarily controlling as to others. No
leadman, for instance, has exercised and demonstrated the
management identification displayed by Chavers in the
Higgenbotham, Hawkins, Hendry, and Schmitt incident,
above described.
The other set of foundry leadmen works in the melt shop
and ingot section. This operation works three shifts on a
swing shift basis. Supervisors consists of Manager Dautsch,
with the next immediate supervisor being Terrell, the
metallurgist. Under Dautsch and Terrell there are three
shifts and on each of these shifts there is a melter. The three
melters are Rodriguez, Rhymes, and Lofton, all of whom
were found to be supervisors in the Board RC decision of
October 1970. On each shift, there is also a leadman who is
subordinate to the melter on the shift. The three leadmen
were Foster, Henderson, and Gordon There is no dispute
in the instant record that the melter has superior authority
over the leadman and other employees and that the melter
has overall responsibility on his shift and in turn is
responsible to Terrell.
In the Trial Examiner's opinion, there are substantial
differences between the status of a leadman like Chavers
and a leadman like Foster. Chavers works on a nonswing
night shift with 15 to 19 men Normally and predominantly
he is the only person in authority throughout that shift. He
is paid $4 24 per hour and is the highest paid man on the
shift. If Chavers directs a man to work overtime on his shift,
Chavers initials the timecard and this will enable the man to
be paid for the overtime. The other group of leadmen, e g.,
Foster, works on a swing shift and Foster was paid $2.70
per hour on days and $2.75 on nights. There is a supervisor
known as a melter on any shift on which Foster works as
leadman and with the exception of such times as Foster
might be on the night shift, there are also present two more
higher supervisors, Dautsch and Terrell. The melter is the
supervisor immediately in charge of the shift and, while a
leadman like Foster has five to seven men working with him
and subject to his direction, the melter is the supervisor on
the shift.25 An illustration of the situation is to be found in
the event where one of Foster's men might have forgotten
24 Southern
Airways
Company,
124 NLRB 749,
Leonard Niederriter
Company, Inc, 130NLRB 113, 115
25 There is also a man with the title of melter's first helper and this is a
position of importance but not described in detail in the record Lofton, for
instance, was first helper before being made a melter
28 He testified that the other employees "were in the plant" at the time
to punch his timecard. At the RC hearing Foster was asked
what he would do if the man came to him and told him that
he had forgotten to punch his card. Foster replied that it
was a common occurrence and, to enable the employee to
be credited for his time and to be paid, Foster said, "We
would go get the fellow's timecard and bring it to the melter
and he would mark [initial ] the card "
It is the Trial Examiner's experience that in industry the
terms leadman, gang pusher, or group leader are used to
describe employees who do direct and "supervise," in the
sense
of
overseeing, the work of others. The word
"supervise" means to oversee. And, obviously, subordinates
are expected to follow and not to defy the directions of a
leadman or group leader. But supervision in the semantic
sense does not thereby equate with being a supervisor as
defined in the Act. It is the Trial Examiner's opinion that
Foster was not a supervisor as defined in the Act.
We come now to the events that occurred immediately
prior to Foster's discharge. There is considerable conflict in
the testimony of Foster, on the one hand, and Terrell,
Dautsch, Rhymes, and Kent on the other. Although the
events involve a meeting of a half dozen or more employees
with Terrell and Dautsch, all Respondent's witnesses deny
that Foster participated and no employee or other witness
of the General Counsel was called to corroborate Foster's
assertion that he was present and participated. We have
considered the evidence and have concluded that the
following is what occurred.
A group of employees, including Foster, had discussed
among themselves on July 10 some grievances or requests
that they planned to take up with Terrell. On Monday, July
13, Foster, alone, went to Terrell's office.26 Foster said to
Terrell that he and some of the other men would like to talk
to Terrell. Terrell said that he did not want to talk to a
committee and he left his office. He repeated his refusal as
Foster spoke to him outside the office.27 Shortly after this, a
group of employees went to Terrell's office. Terrell was not
present. Talk went back and forth between individuals
about going out in the plant, finding Terrell, and
demanding that he hear their complaints. Foster, in
substance, counseled against rash action. As the matter
progressed, according to Foster, "the men became angry"
and were going to find Terrell. Then "when they all went
out of the office, this thing got out of hand now," according
to Foster.
Contrary to Foster, we believe that Foster, although in
basic sympathy with the group, withdrew from further
association with the group around this point. He went out
in the plant in the vicinity of his work area and, in our
opinion, did not thereafter participate in the subsequent
meetings between the group and Terrell or between the
group and Dautsch. In fact, when the group was outside the
office waiting for Terrell shortly thereafter, Foster, who was
but that he went to the office
27 Terrell makes no reference to any initial conversations such as are
described by Foster and neither affirms or denies this part of Foster's
testimony Terrell refers only to two meetings with a group of employees,
one in May and one in July
He states that Foster was present at neither
meeting
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not then physically with the group, told Rhymes, the melter,
that he had nothing to do with the affair.211
After a brief period, a group composed of P. McGee, A.
McGee, Beekman , Davis, and some others, all employees,
told Terrell in his office that they wanted a raise He told
them, in substance, that he could not give them a raise and
directed them to return to work. Although denied by
Terrell, we believe that the men may have also raised the
matter of better jobs for black employees. In any event, at
or about the time the session with Terrell was ending,
Dautsch came into the office for the first time in the series
of events. Dautsch states that he told the employees to go
back to work or to punch out and leave. Dautsch states that
Foster was not among those present 29
That afternoon, July 13, at 3 p.m., at the end of his shift,
Foster signed a union card in the parking lot Present at the
time were Ford, Hawkins, and a man called Chuck Wagon.
Ford and Hawkins were employee union committeemen
named as such in the Union's telegram of July 12 (Sunday)
to Respondent. As far as appears the signing of the card
was Foster's first identification with the Union. After
signing his own card, Foster secured some cards from Ford
and Hawkins and distributed them to employees in the
parking lot shortly after 3 p m and, at 3.30 p m., Foster was
in the parking lot about 50 feet from the guard shack. There
is no direct or indirect evidence that he was observed by
any supervisor The openness of the activity, however, may
warrant an inference that he could have been or was
observed, particularly in view of what we have earlier seen
of Respondent's alertness with respect to Higgenbotham's
single signed union card.
The following day, Tuesday, July 14, Foster reported on
his 7 a.m shift but he was 6 minutes late Terrell saw him
when he punched in Foster told him that he had a flat tire
on his way to work and Terrell told him, all right, go to
work. The next event is that Terrell went to Dautsch and
told him that Foster had been late in punching in. Dautsch
told Terrell to bring Foster to the office as soon as he
finished pouring the steel. Terrell did so around 10 a.m
According to Foster, Dautsch told him that he would have
to discharge him for missing too many days; Foster denied
missing too many days but said that if you want to let me
go, I am ready to go, Foster said that he had left his jacket
in the plant and would like to get it; Dautsch told Terrell to
go with Foster for the jacket and escort him to the gate,
after
being escorted to the gate, Foster went to the
personnel office to inform Kent, the personnel man, that he
had been discharged
Dautsch went to work for Respondent in March 1970 and
2$ The following day I oster said substantially the same thing to Kent,
the personnel man
29 In describing the meetings with Terrell and Dautsch in which he
states that he was a participant, contrary to what we believe is the fact, we
note Foster's use of the word "they " Thus, he testified, "they asked for a
black crane driver, they asked for sonic black in the furnace
We
asked for more money
or rather"I they asked for more money
' ,
"Q Do you recall anything being said about money" A Well, we asked for
more money Oh, yes, they asked for more money and Mr Bill [Dautsch I
told them, say he wasn't going to give them no more money He said if
they didn't like it the way it was, they could quit" Although not
disposmve, the use of "they" appears to be indicative of Foster's role as a
spectator or nonparticipant who knew or learned what the nature of the
groups' demands had been
S0 It was our impression that Terrell as an individual was primarily a
was terminated in December 1970. He was not employed at
the time of the hearing. Dautsch testified that, when he
came to work for Respondent, the rolling mill (the Ross
Steel part of Respondent) had an inefficient operation and
that
he was hired to improve the operation. It was
Dautsch's experience with other companies that a general
factor in inefficient operations was poor attendance by
employees. Dautsch and Terrell testified and the record
shows that Dautsch instituted, shortly after his advent, a
system of posting weekly "Absenteeism Reports" on the
employee bulletin board in his part of the mill. These
reports showed the name of employees absent or tardy for
the week, e.g., Lee "absent one day" or Butler "tardy one
day." On his own copies of the posted weekly reports,
which, in our opinion, are authentic and not challenged as
such by the General Counsel, Dautsch had written
comments next to various names appearing on the reports.
These comments, inter aka, are indicative of the fact that
Dautsch took the matter of absence and tardiness seriously
and that he, personally, was concerned with the attendance
situation. Dautsch reviewed with Terrell each week the list
of tardy and absent employees and the record of the
employees regarding tardiness and absence. Dautsch would
instruct
Terrell to talk to and warn employees with
developing bad records. The push was coming from
Dautsch to Terrell to convey pressure to employees about
attendance.30 Typical comments appended by Dautsch on
his copies of the attendance reports as to various named
employees were. "verbal warning"; "told unacceptable";
"bad"; "very poor"; "getting bad"; on report for week of
June 22-26, appears, for instance, "Last warning," as to two
men, absent I day; and as to Foster, tardy I day, "Last
warning"; also, another name, tardy I day, Fired"; 31 on
the June 15-19 report appear, next to individual employee
names, such comments as "Terrible"; "Bad"; "Getting
Bad"; "Tardy a lot."32
Regarding Foster's record, the General Counsel in his
brief acknowledges what he describes as "Foster's horren-
dous tardiness record." He states that Foster was late on 40
occasions between January and July 14, 1970, including 28
times after Dautsch's system was started and that absences
and tardiness amounted to 43, including 31 after Dautsch
began his system The General Counsel argues therefore
that Foster's attendance habits were condoned by Respon-
dent until he became active in the Union.
The record contains the absenteeism reports that were
posted beginning with that of the week March 2 through 6,
1970. Foster's name first appears on the March 16 to 20
report, as absent 2 days; he next appears on the following
professional , a metallurgist , and although he was also the next highest
supervisor under Dautsch, he was not basically a line production driver
type As far as we know, he discharged his supervisory duties adequately
but on this matter of attendance discipline the thrust was coming primarily
from Dautsch
11 One of the names on the report is T Lofton, absent I day, "Last
warning" Lofton was one of the three melters who next to Terrell and
Dautsch were the highest supervisors in the section Lofton was no longer
employed by Respondent at the time of the instant hearing
92 Adjectives such as "bad," "last warning," and so forth, while they
appear on a particular weekly report next to a named employee who was
tardy or absent once that week , are a reflection of the employee's record to
date In other words, Dautsch did not write "bad" or "last warning" if a
man was late I day and had no prior lateness or absence record
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reports; March 30 to April 2, tardy I day, April 20 to 24,
tardy I day; April 27 to May 1, tardy I day, absent I day.
Dautsch's first written note regarding Foster, on Dautsch's
copy of the reports, appears on the April 27-May 1, report,
to
wit,
"2 wks," which apparently means that for 2
consecutive weeks Foster's name was on the report, 33 May
11 to 15, tardy 3 days, with Dautsch's comment "Getting
Bad": May 25 to 29, tardy I day, "Bad!"; June I to 5, tardy
1 day, "Bad"; June 8 to 12, tardy I day, "Bad""; June 15 to
19, tardy I day, absent I day, "Terrible", 34 June 22 to 26,
tardy I day, "Last Warning."35 Foster's name does not
appear on the June 29 to July 3 and July 6 to 10, reports,
which were the last two before the week of July 13 in which
he was discharged.36
Foster was asked by the General Counsel:
Q.
Now, have you ever been warned, by warned, I
mean, have you ever been told that if you miss a day, if
you are late a day, you will be discharged?
A No, I have never been told that, no.
Foster stated that once, in February 1970, Terrell told him,
"you know we are working shorthanded, you have got to
get here" but that in that February period Terrell displayed
sympathy with Foster's problem relating to the operating
condition of Foster's car. Other than this, Foster denies
being talked to or warned about his attendance since
February. In view of what has been said, above, about
Dautsch's instituting the weekly attendance reports, his
personal concern with, and attention to, the subject,
including orders to Terrell, the reports themselves with their
notations, and Foster's "horrendous" record (to use the
General Counsel's adjective), we find Foster's testimony
unconvincing
Dautsch testified credibly that Foster "had one of the
worst tardiness records, I would say it is the worst of the
Company, and he had been talked with, practically pleaded
with. He was given a final warning." Dautsch testified with
respect to the individual weekly reports that we have
previously described. When he wrote a comment on a
report he spoke to Terrell about it and told the latter what
to tell the employee. Specific instances were given with
respect to the various times that Foster appeared on the
reports,
e.g., Dautsch told Terrell to tell Foster how
important his job was and give him a stiff warning; another,
speak to Foster again and see if he cannot improve, finally
a "last warning" regarding the report of June 22 to 26, tell
Foster we just cannot go along anymore and give him a
33 Those others on the report, who have the same notation, also were,
like Foster, on the preceding week's report
34 On this report, Dautsch also made the following tabulation with an
arrow to Foster's name
A [absent]-Ill, T [tardy]-11111 [sic] III II
[sic ] I
35 On this report two other employees, tardy I day, have the notation
"Fired " Three employees, including Foster, have the "Last Warning"
notation
36 Resp Exh 10 is a compilation of Foster's record made by personnel
man Kent Resp Exhs 11-I Is and 3, 4, 5, are Foster's timecards that Kent
stated were used in making Exh 10 Exh 10 indicates Foster as late on
July 9 and 14 There are two July timecards in Exh 1 I to I Is, July 14 and
July 7 We believe that, in error, Kent showed a lateness for Foster on July
9 instead of July 7 We also believe that the reason Foster's name does not
appear on the July 6 to 10 weekly report was because his July 7 timecard
shows that he punched in at 7 01 instead of 7 One minute might well be
attributed to waiting briefly at 6 59 or 7 behind another employee and then
punching the clock and having it register 7 01 Indeed a timecard might be
final warning that, if he is absent or tardy again without an
acceptable excuse, he will be terminated. Terrell states that
pursuant to Dautsch's directions he spoke to Foster in
April, May, and June, e.g., your tardiness record has not
improved and we cannot run this place with such
attendance; you will have to improve or we will have to
take some action, finally, toward the end of June, you
cannot be treated differently than other employees and if
you are absent or tardy again we are going to have to
terminate you.
It is also relevant and material to state that the record is
clear, and Dautsch and Foster testified, that Foster was the
only man on his shift qualified to pour the steel, a vital and
critical part of the operation. There was a man on each of
the three shifts who could pour the steel, one of whom was
Foster. When Foster was not present at the start of his shift,
the Respondent was obliged to have the leadman, the
pourer of steel, from the preceding shift, stay over at
overtime rate and not infrequently depending on the
unknown factor of Foster's amount of tardiness, have the
leadman from the succeeding shift come in early to work
more than his usual shift This is unquestionably why
Dautsch and Terrell endeavored to impress on Foster the
importance of his being on time and resorted eventually to
a final warning around the end of June as the only solution.
This was, of course, all before any union activity on
Foster's part or, as far as appears, on any other person's
part.
Considering the testimony of Foster, Dautsch, Terrell,
and Kent as to the Foster discharge circumstances, we find
that Dautsch told Foster that he was being discharged for
excessive tardiness and absence. Dautsch may have used
the general term "absenteeism" since Respondent placed
both absence and tardiness in the category of absenteeism,
e.g., the weekly "Absenteeism Report" listed both tardiness
and absence, and tardiness, in our opinion, can be regarded
as a form of absenteeism, partial absence. In any event, we
believe that Terrell then went with Foster while the latter
went back for his jacket and then saw him to the foundry
entrance where Foster punched out and went to the
personnel office for his check. Terrell was with Foster and
at the personnel office Terrell informed Kent that Foster
was terminated for excessive tardiness and absence. This
was written on the termination slip by Kent.37
Regarding Foster's tardiness on July 14, it is pertinent to
mention that Respondent's rule about absence or attend-
placed in the clock or about to be so placed at 15 seconds past 7 and by
the time the operation was completed the time stamped might be 7 01 In
any event, Foster was not posted as tardy for the week of July 6 to 10 This
appears to have been a normal and reasonable position for Respondent to
have taken and forebearance to act on a 1-minute tardiness is not
indicative of a permissive attitude toward, or condonation of, definitive
tardiness, even when the employee has a poor record
17 Although there is evidence that some other discharged employees had
not been accompanied by Terrell on their exit march, we regard this aspect
as of no major significance
When Foster was discharged by Dautsch, he
said, inter alia, "I am ready to go but I left my jacket out in the plant
let
me go get my jacket" This tends to indicate that normally, after
discharge, Foster would have gone out of the plant, punched out at the
entrance, and gone to the personnel office for his check But instead of
leaving immediately, he asked if he could go back or out into the plant for
his jacket
This was agreeable to Dautsch but he told Terrell who was
standing there to go with Foster
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ance did contemplate that in certain instances there might
be an acceptable excuse for an absence or tardiness. What
was an acceptable excuse was a matter of Respondent's
judgment and that judgment was made principally and
initially by Terrell who prepared the weekly reports for
Dautsch and for posting. The General Counsel argues that,
on July 14 when Foster punched in late in Terrell's presence
and Foster told him that he had had a flat tire, his excuse
was accepted because Terrell told him to go to work. We do
not agree. The fact that Terrell went to Dautsch and
reported
Foster's
lateness
to
Dautsch that
morning
indicates, in
our opinion, that the excuse was not
acceptable. It is reasonable to believe that Terrell had told
Foster to go to work because he was needed for the
essential task of pouring the steel. This is confirmed by the
fact that, even after Terrell reported to Dautsch, the latter
told Terrell to bring Foster to the office only after Foster
had finished pouring and this apparently did not occur
until about 10 a.m.38
In our view it is fairly clear that neither Terrell nor
Dautsch regarded a flat tire as an acceptable excuse from a
man with Foster's record. It is fairly clear that in almost all
instances employees will have or will offer an excuse for
absence or tardiness . If public transportation is used, an
employee may be tardy because the bus was late or because
he missed his bus, if private car is used, there may be a dead
battery, radiator overheated, flat tire and so forth. The
employer may find some of these excuses acceptable once
or twice from a man with an otherwise good record but
from a chronic tardy or absentee employee, in our opinion,
only some unusual event will usually be accepted as
providing an acceptable excuse, e.g, the man's wife had
twins an hour before he was to leave for work. We cannot
regard Respondent's failure to excuse Foster's lateness on
July 14 as a cause for suspicion.-19
Dautsch testified that he was unaware of any union
activity at the time he discharged Foster and that he first
learned of such activity late in the week, after July 14, when
the Union's telegram of July 12 to Respondent was brought
to
his
attention
The question in our mind is why
Respondent, which evidently received the telegram on July
13, did not bring or had not brought such a matter to the
attention
of
one of its key line-management people,
Dautsch, until after July 14. But in any event, consistent
with our findings regarding the events and meetings on July
13, we believe that Terrell, and Dautsch through Terrell,
was aware that Foster did have some initial connection with
3s Although there is no testimony on the point, it appears unlikely that
Terrell did not mention to Dautsch the reason given by Foster for his
tardiness or that Dautsch did not ask Dautsch did testify that he recalled
that Foster told him something about a transportation problem
•'y The weekly reports were dated according to a calendar week,
Monday to Friday, e g, June 22-26 The timecards covered a pay period,
which ended on Tuesdays, to wit, the payroll period was Wednesday to
Tuesday, inclusive, and the pay period of Foster, ending Tuesday, June 30,
showed that he worked June 24, 25, 26, 27, 29, and 30 He was I hour and
5 minutes late on the 25th and 18 minutes late on the 27th, a Saturday The
weekly reports were prepared by Terrell on the Monday following the
preceding week and discussed with Dautsch at that time The June 22-26
report was therefore prepared on June 29 and both Terrell and Dautsch
would consequently have been aware at the time that Foster had been late
on June 25 and 27 Dautsch's notation of "Last Warning" next to Foster's
name on Dautsch 's copy of the report evidently arose out of the June 25
and 27 tardiness as well as prior incidents The weekly reports for the
the activity of the group of employees who met with Terrell
and Dautsch on July 13, although Foster was not present at
the meetings themselves 40
With respect to Foster's distribution of union cards on
July 13 at the change of shifts at 3 and 3:30 p.m., in the
parking lot in front of plant, we believe it reasonable to
infer that all or some of this activity was observed by one or
more of Respondent's representatives. We note that the day
after Foster's discharge Respondent was alert to detect that
Higgenbotham had a signed union card in his lunch bag
that accidently was knocked over while Higgenbotham was
not present. Chavers testified that he asked Higgenbotham
whether "a guy in the Ingot Section" had given him the
cards. At the RC hearing, when Foster was asked where he
worked, he said, "In the Ingot Department." He gave
precisely the same answer in the instant heanng.41 We
believe that Chavers in asking Higgenbotham whether "a
guy in the ingot section" had given him the cards, was
referring to Spencer Foster.42 Although this occurred a day
after Foster's discharge, Foster engaged in no union or
concerted activity after 3:30 p.m., on July 13, when he
distributed union cards in the parking lot in front of the
plant, the day before his discharge. It is our opinion,
therefore, that Chavers' remarks to Higgenbotham, about
Foster being the source of the cards, related to Chavers'
and Respondent's awareness on July 13 and 14 of Foster's
distribution of cards on July 13.
Notwithstanding the fact that the Trial Examiner is of the
opinion that Respondent was aware of Foster's association
with the concerted activities of July 13 and was aware of his
union card distribution later that afternoon, we do not
believe that the burden of proof has been sustained with
respect to the allegation that Foster was discriminatorily
discharged. In one sense, the timing of the discharge
appears suspicious since it occurred the day after Foster's
aforementioned activities. But the timing is also explained
by the fact that on July 14 Foster came in late, an event not
caused by Respondent. In view of Foster's attendance
record and Respondent's real and legitimate concern
therewith and prior warning to Foster, we are unable to
discern
a cogent reason why the suspicion of illegal
motivation should prevail over the existence and assertion
of a valid and legitimate motive for the discharge. The
General Counsel has the burden of proof. Respondent may
have welcomed the fact that it was presented with a
legitimate reason for the termination but, in our opinion,
this is not to be equated with a pretext in view of Foster's
calendar weeks of June 29-July 3 and July 6-10, which covered the period
between the "Last Warning" to Foster, at the end of June, and July 14, do
not list Foster This is apparently because Foster's only dereliction dunng
the period was that he was 1 minute late on July 7 We have previously
discussed this 1-minute lateness as probably excused by Respondent as
inconsequential
40 The group activity on July 13 was concerted activity. There is no
indication that it was union activity or that the Union was connected with
it
Foster, for instance, first engaged in union activity later in the day when
he signed a union card and distributed cards
41 The ingot section or department was part of the foundry When
asked if there was another Foster in the foundry, Foster said, no. Hendry
testified that there was a Roosevelt Foster in the foundry who had been a
union observer in a prior election. Hendry did not say that Roosevelt
Foster worked in the ingot section or department of the foundry
42 Higgenbotham testified that Chavers had mentioned the name,
Foster
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record and Respondent's warnings, as well as Respondent's
termination of others for tardiness and absence. We cannot
say that but for Foster's union activity he would not have
been discharged on July 14. Suspicion there is but, in our
opinion, the General Counsel has not sustained his burden
of proof. We recommend dismissal of the 8(a)(3) and (1)
allegations as to Foster.
The Termination of Joseph Wilson
Wilson was employed by Respondent from October 1967
to August 19, 1970.43 He was an operator of a 50-ton
overhead crane in the foundry There were three such
operators, one on each shift. Dautsch was Wilson's top
supervisor, then Terrell, and finally the melter on the shift.
Wilson evidently worked a swing shift since he states that
his wage on nights was $3 per hour and $2.90 on days.
Lofton, Rhymes, and Rodriguez were the three melters.
Wilson lived in a rural area and his home, where he lived
with his mother, was 23 miles from the plant. His home did
not have a telephone while he worked for Respondent This
fact was known by Respondent. Wilson's mother worked at
the farm of a man named Sullivan, a distance of 4 miles
from Wilson's home. She left home early in the morning for
her employment. Sullivan did have a telephone. During his
approximately 3 years with Respondent, there were about
three occasions when Respondent had contacted Wilson at
home in order to have him come in and work overtime. The
contact was made by Respondent telephoning Sullivan.
The latter would then, in Wilson's words, leave his own
farm work, drive the 4 miles to Wilson's home, and give him
the message
On no occasion had Wilson telephoned
Respondent to advise that he would be absent or tardy
Wilson admitted that he was aware of Respondent's rule
that a late or absent employee was expected to call in and
inform Respondent that he would be late or absent.
"Sometimes," according to
Wilson, he told Terrell in
advance that he would not be in but, frequently, he simply
came in and went to work after being out and, "when I had
the time," he would come down from his crane and tell
Terrell why he had been absent. Terrell states that Wilson
never told him in advance that he would be absent. It was
the Trial Examiner's impression of Wilson that he was a
mature adult man over 30 years of age. He was an
individualistic type of man with strongly held personal
norms and standards.
Wilson's attendance record for 1970 shows the following:
January-absent 1/20; February-absent 2/4 and 2/11;
March-absent 3/2 to 3/6 inclusive, also 3/23, and tardy
3/26, April-absent 3/16 and 3/17; May-late 5/8, absent
5/26 and 5/27; June-late 6/25, July-not absent or late;
August-absent 8/18
With respect to the weekly attendance reports, prepared
by Terrell, that were posted on the bulletin board, with a
copy to Dautsch,44 the following appears
Report of week-T3 3/2-6 Wilson, absent 5 days; with
no sritten annotation by way of comment by Dautsch.
Since 5 consecutive days is 40 hours or an entire work
week , it appears unlikely that Respondent would have
tolerated such an absence without discharging Wilson
unless there was a tolerable reason for the absence, such
as sickness and so forth.
3/23-27 Wilson, absent I day, no comment by
Dautsch
4/13-17 Wilson, absent 2 days, no comment by
Dautsch.
5/25-29
Wilson,
absent I day,
"Bad,"
written
annotation by Dautsch.
6/1-5 Wilson, tardy 1 day, "Bad," written annotation
by Dautsch.
6/22-26 Wilson, tardy
I day, "Bad." Three other
employees, who were absent or tardy and who were
listed on this week's report, had "Last Warning" written
next to their names by Dautsch Wilson was not one of
these.
Since the June 22-26 report is the last weekly report on
which Wilson appears, it is apparent that the total critical
comments by Dautsch amounted to 3 "Bad "(s), one in May
and two in June . While not a matter of precision , we believe
that in a rough sort of scale of ascending critical comments,
the
weekly reports that Respondent introduced into
evidence show the scale to be something in the nature of.
"Getting Bad"; "Bad" (sometimes more than one "Bad"
might precede the next type of comment); "Terrible";
"Last Warning." For instance , in the case of Foster, the
scale went as follows: "Getting Bad"; "Bad"; "Bad";
"Bad"; "Terrible"; "Last Warning."
It is apparent that by the latter part of June, the time of
Wilson's last attendance dereliction , when he was tardy on
I day, Dautsch's comments totaled 3 "Bads." While such a
comment denotes definite disapproval and while "Bad" is
not good, it is our opinion that Respondent's attitude and
intention had not reached the point of no further toleration.
The ultimata and the anathema of "Terrible" and "Last
Warning" had not been reached. Neither Dautsch nor
Terrell claim that either grave admonitions or warnings
were given to Wilson .45 Indeed, Terrell , when asked if he
"ever had occasion to speak with him [Wilson] about
attendance," cited only one instance and that was in May
1970. According to Terrell , Wilson was absent 2 days.
When Wilson came to work, Terrell asked him why he had
been absent. Wilson said that he had to go to court in New
Orleans and that he had no telephone . Terrell said, "Joe,
you could have called me on the way to New Orleans." This
was the extent of the entire incident . Wilson states that he
had never received a warning from Terrell or Dautsch. He
does say that Terrell had told him, "Joe, we got to have
some way of making communications ," and Wilson would
say that "I am still where I am at, always [have] been . . . I
am three to four miles from the nearest phone... ." This
occurred "a good while back" according to Wilson. There
was no warning or anything beyond the foregoing.
As mentioned , Wilson was neither late nor absent in July
or August until August 18. But between the latter part of
June and August 18 he became definitely identified with the
43 Since Respondent's plant had been in Amite only about 3-1/2 years,
comments were on Dautsch's personal copies of the reports and were not
Wilson's tenure had been relatively long
on the copies posted in the plant
44 The system, including Dautsch's annotations on the reports, has been
45 The contrast with respect to Foster is clear
described above in connection with the Foster matter As pointed out, the
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Union. In the union telegram of July 12 to Respondent,
Wilson was named as one of the union committeemen.
Thereafter, having received a supply of union cards, he
visited employees at their homes in behalf of the Union.
Wilson had known the two melters, Lofton and Rhymes,
since he had commenced working for Respondent. They
were good friends and drank beer together at the Aro Bar in
the area. Wilson had also gone on hunting trips with
Lof ton.
Wilson, who, in our opinion, was a reliable witness,
testified that, about a week after Wilson's appointment as a
union committeeman had been declared, Rhymes spoke to
him in the plant Rhymes said, Joe, I heard them talking in
the office-if you are out I day or tardy, they are going to
fire you because you are a committeeman. Wilson said he
would ride a pregnant mare to work in order to make sure
he had a ride to get to his job.
A few days later, at the Aro Bar, Rhymes told Wilson that
he, Rhymes, had been told to tighten up on the men and, if
he caught anyone whom he suspected was for the Union, he
was going to have to fire him Beginning in the latter part of
July and in August, Wilson states that Rhymes became
"very distant" toward him.
About a week after Rhymes had spoken to Wilson,
Lofton told Wilson that the last time he, Lofton, had voted
against the Union but that he was for the Union this time.
Not long after this, Lofton told Wilson substantially what
Rhymes had told Wilson. Lofton said he heard that,
because Wilson was a committeeman, they were going to
fire him if he was late or missed a day. Wilson again cited
his determination to ride a pregnant mare in order to insure
his getting to work.
Lofton did not testify. Rhymes states that as a friend he
had advised Wilson not to be absent and to be on time
because his attendance was pretty poor. Rhymes asserts
that the Union was not mentioned and denies the remark
about firing anyone if they were for the Union. The Trial
Examiner credits Wilson who, as mentioned, impressed him
as a credible and reliable witness.46
The last day on which Wilson worked was Monday,
August 17, on the 7 a.m. to 3 p.m. shift. Monday night he
became ill in the middle of the night and began vomiting.
Tuesday morning, he states that he felt "pretty rough." His
mother had left for work at the Sullivan farm before
daylight. Wilson did not come to work on Tuesday and did
not notify Respondent since he had no telephone. Wilson's
job as the 50-ton crane operator on his shift was an
important one and, in his absence, Respondent was obliged
to have the crane operator from the preceding or the
succeeding shift work overtime at the overtime rate.
When Wilson came to work on Wednesday, August 19,
thei e was a note on his timecard to see Terrell. In the office,
when Wilson reported pursuant to the note, were Terrell
and Dautsch. According to Wilson the following conversa-
tion then took place. Dautsch said, "Joe, I have been
looking over your attendance record and it is pretty bad."
Wilson said that he guessed that was so. Terrell asked
Wilson what the matter was and was told that Wilson had
46 The Rhymes and Lofton statements are relevant not only with
respect to Wilson but were also considered in connection with Foster's
discharge
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had an upset stomach and had been vomiting and "as you
know, I don't have a phone or I would have called in."
Dautsch said, "I am going to have to send you home for a
day . . . I am going to have to think about this" and "I
might,
he [Dautsch] might, we might go
as far as
terminating you." At this point, Wilson states that he,
Wilson, took off his hard hat and work gloves and said, "no
... if you want to think about it, I am going to think about
it for you, I am quitting." Wilson got up and Dautsch
asked, "are you quitting?" and "I [Wilson] said, `yes, sir,
definitely.' " As Wilson walked to the door he said that he
knew "why I was picked, because I was on the union
committee.. .." Dautsch again asked, are you quitting,
and Wilson once again replied, "yes, sir, definitely." At the
hearing, Wilson was asked with respect to the foregoing
events on August 19, 1970:
Q.
Were you fired?
A. I quit.
The General Counsel contends that Respondent discrimi-
natorily suspended Wilson on August 19 and, on the same
date also constructively discharged him.
The Trial Examiner is of the opinion that Respondent's
statement to Wilson that he was suspended for a day was
illegally motivated and constituted a violation of Section
8(a)(1) and (3) of the Act; but, we believe that the
suspension
was arrested
almost
as soon as it was
announced, because, upon being told of the suspension,
Wilson quit his job.47 In our opinion, Wilson was not
contructively discharged and we recommend dismissal of
that allegation.
While Respondent had the undoubted right to suspend
Wilson or any other employee for being absent and for not
calling in, the issue before us is the motive in this particular
instance. Wilson had a bad past record with respect to
attendance. Respondent did not like that record and was
not satisfied with it.
However, under Dautsch's and
Terrell's jointly operated system of attendance reports,
which we have earlier described in detail, with the
accompanying pressure on deficient individual employees
by an increasing crescendo of warning talks and ultimate
warnings, a definite pattern is revealed. In fact, this pattern,
in our opinion, was the asserted and successful crux of
Respondent's defense with respect to Foster.
But, in
Wilson's case, we have a bad attendance record which, over
an extended period, never came into the pressurized focus
on Wilson that indicated, let alone forewarned, that strong
disciplinary
action
impended or was contemplated.
Dautsch never spoke to Wilson and, unlike the Foster
situation, Dautsch does not testify specifically that he
directed Terrell to speak to Wilson at any point, and there
is no evidence of orders to give Wilson "a stiff warning" or
anything else of that nature. The one instance testified to by
Terrell occurred in May and that, as described by Terrell,
supra, was surely a mild, unpointed conversation about the
longstanding lack of telephone communication by Wilson.
Conceding Respondent's right to suspend an employee, it
is undisputed that Wilson had never been suspended before
or was possible suspension ever mentioned to him. No
41 Wilson was told that he was being suspended that day, at the start of
his shift
By quitting at that point he ceased to be an employee and
therefore the suspension became moot
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other instance of suspension appears in the record
regarding attendance derelictions by an employee. And the
fact is that Wilson's poor attendance had crested and
ceased by the end of June. From that time, until August 18,
Wilson's attendance was without blemish.48
Not even Foster, who was subjected to an ascending scale
of admonitions and warnings in Respondent's efforts to
improve his attendance, had ever been suspended by way of
disciplinary action. If Wilson's suspension is claimed to
have been an effort to improve Wilson's attendance since it
was short of discharge, there are several observations that
are in order. The suspension, without precedent under
Dautsch's system to improve attendance, was, in our view,
decided on because Respondent, due to Wilson's status as a
union committeeman, wished to have additional time to
consider whether or not to discharge Wilson. The testimony
of Wilson, Dautsch, and Terrell confirms this.49 In the light
of what the evidence shows as to Dautsch's practice, a "stiff
warning" and certainly a "last warning" to Wilson, on
August 19, would have been normal and would have
effectively aided Respondent's interest in good attendance
if such was Respondent's sole motivation. This is particu-
larly true since the record discloses that heretofore Wilson
had never received anything in the nature of a real warning,
let alone a last warning.
It is in the foregoing context, therefore, that Dautsch's
announcement to
Wilson on August 19 that he was
suspended must be evaluated. In our opinion, the most
evident and reasonable explanation for the suspension,
uncharacteristic as it was in the light of the aforedescnbed
background, was that it was an implementation of what
Rhymes and Lofton had previously told Wilson, namely,
that Respondent would discriminate against him because
he was a union committeeman, if he was late or tardy even
once. August 18 was the first attendance dereliction by
Wilson since he became a committeeman in the first part of
June
We believe that Dautsch certainly considered
discharging Wilson on August 19 but, instead, suspended
him, while Dautsch considered whether or not to discharge
Wilson on the following day. Indeed, Dautsch, when asked,
with respect to what he said and did on August 19, testified
that, in addition to informing Wilson that he was suspended
for a day, he told him that the following day "I would let
him know what my decision was." 50 The witness, Dautsch,
was asked:
Q.
Were you contemplating terminating him?
A.
I wanted to be very careful with that gentleman
because I knew his name was on that telegram, I knew
he was a union committeeman.
While we are satisfied that the suspension of Wilson was
+8 Unknown to Dautsch or Terrell, we believe a major factor in
Wilson's self-impros ment was the pointed warning he had received from
his friends
Rhymee and Lofton after it had been made known to
Respondent that Wilson was a union committeeman
49 Wilson's testimony on this has been set forth previously The
testimony of Dautsch and Terrell on this aspect is described infra
50 Terrell, who was present, affirmed that Dautsch told Wilson "that he
would let him know tomorrow" if he still had his job
Si On August 5, the Union had filed a charge, with notice to
Respondent, alleging that Foster's dischaige was discriminatory This fact,
plus Wilson's known committeeman status, renders Dautsch's prudence
quite understandable
52 About 2 years before, while in Respondent's employ, Respondent's
discriminatorily motivated, we are equally persuaded that
Respondent did not discharge Wilson, directly or construc-
tively. We have credited Wilson's version of the August 19
conversation with Dautsch and Terrell and on that version,
or, on Respondent's version, which differs only in minor
respects, we are satisfied that Wilson quit. He quit because
of the independent type of person he was; he believed that
his suspension was unfair and discriminatory and rather
than accept the suspension he quit. He made that choice.
He may have also believed that he would be discharged on
the following day. Perhaps he would have been. But
nobody knows whether he would have been discharged or
not. The Tnal Examiner does not know and, in our opinion,
Wilson did not know. In fact, the evidence indicates that
Dautsch did not know on August 19 and clearly had not
discharged Wilson on the 19th. Dautsch, as he candidly
testified as quoted above, was handling the Wilson matter
with care because of Wilson's union position and beyond
suspension Dautsch was not prepared to go on August 19.51
Wilson, however, as we have said, took the initiative and
quit his job. The suspension ceased to be operative as soon
as Wilson quit and Dautsch never had to make his decision
as to what he would do on the following day. Nor, in our
opinion,
was
Wilson's quit a constructive quit or a
constructive discharge. The I-day suspension was not so
onerous or intolerable, albeit, in our view, illegally
motivated, that Wilson was, in effect, forced to quit. He was
not being transferred to the furnace pit to shovel sand or
being subjected to an otherwise unbearable situation. He
would have had legal redress for an illegal suspension, and,
if discharged on the morrow, he could assert his claims for
redress. Perhaps he would not have been discharged. But
Wilson chose to quit his job on August 19 when notified of
his suspension for the day. Wilson testified that he quit and
the evidence shows such to be the fact.52
CONCLUSIONS OF LAW
1.
Respondent has interfered with, restrained, and
coerced its employees in the exercise of the rights
guaranteed to them by Section 7 of the Act by:
(a) Coercively interrogating employees Higgenbotham
and Hawkins on July 15 and 16, 1970.
(b) Announcing to employee Joseph Wilson, on August
19, 1970, that he was suspended for I day on August 19 and
that Respondent would advise him on August 20 whether
or not he would be terminated.
2.
The foregoing conduct set forth in 1(a), above,
constituted a violation of Section 8(a)(1) of the Act
3.
The foregoing conduct set forth in 1(b), above,
constituted a violation of Section 8(a)(1) and (3) of the Act.
supervisor had wanted Wilson to do something on the job, evidently in
connection with operating the crane, and Wilson admittedly quit because
he "didn't want to do" what Respondent told him to do See also Texas
Industries, Inc, 188 NLRB No 124, where an employee truckdnver was
accused of joyndding in a company truck The driver said he had missed a
turn on the direct route The superintendent told him that, if he did not
know his way any better than that, the superintendent did not think he
needed to drive for the company The driver was told to meet with the
superintendent and the personnel manager the next day The driver did not
report the next day The Board held that "the specific direction to report to
the personnel office the next morning hardly constitutes and indeed [is]
inconsistent with, an expression of a decision to discharge Scott" It was
concluded that the driver, Scott, had quit and had not been discharged
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4.
Respondent has not otherwise violated the Act as
alleged in the complaint.
THE REMEDY
Having found that Respondent has violated the Act in
certain respects, it will be recommended that it cease and
desist from such conduct. No affirmative action will be
recommended regarding Wilson's suspension since he quit
his job when informed of his suspension.
RECOMMENDED ORDER53
Respondent, Dibert, Bancroft & Ross Co., Ltd., and its
wholly owned subsidiary, Ross Steel
Works, Inc., its
officers, agents, successors, and assigns, shall:
1.
Cease and desist from-
(a) Coercively interrogating employees regarding the
signing of union cards or union activities.
(b) Suspending or taking related disciplinary action
against an employee because of union or concerted activity
that is protected by the National Labor Relations Act.
(c) By any like or related conduct, interfering with,
restraining, or coercing employees in the exercise of the
rights guaranteed to them by the Act.
2.
Take the following affirmative action to effectuate
the policies of the Act:
(a) Post at its plant in Amite, Louisiana, copies of the
attached notice marked "Appendix."54 Copies of said
notice, on forms provided by the Regional Director for
Region 15, after being signed by Respondent's representa-
tive, shall be posted by Respondent immediately upon
receipt thereof, and be maintained by it for 60 consecutive
days thereafter, in conspicuous places, including all places
where notices to employees are customarily posted.
Reasonable steps shall be taken by Respondent to insure
that said notices are not altered, defaced, or covered by
other material.
(b) Notify the Regional Director for Region 15, in
writing, within 20 days from the receipt of this Decision,
what steps have been taken to comply herewith.55
53 In the event no exceptions are filed as provided by Section 10246 of
the Rules and Regulations of the National Labor Relations Board, the
findings, conclusions , and Recommended Order herein shall, as provided
in Section 102 48 of the Rules and Regulations, be adopted by the Board
and become its findings, conclusions, and Order, and all objections thereto
shall be deemed waived for all purposes
54 In the event that the Board's Order is enforced by a Judgment of a
United States Court of Appeals, the words in the notice reading "Posted by
Order of the National Labor Relations Board" shall be changed to read
"Posted pursuant to a Judgment of the United States Court of Appeals
enforcing an Order of the National Labor Relations Board "
55 In the event that this Recommended Order is adopted by the Board
after exceptions have been filed, this provision shall be modified to read.
"Notify the Regional Director for Region 15, in writing, within 20 days
from the date of this Order, what steps the Respondent has taken to
comply herewith "
APPENDIX
NOTICE To EMPLOYEES
POSTED BY ORDER OF THE
NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD
An Agency of the United States Government
WE WILL NOT coercively question employees about
the signing of union cards or other lawful union
activities.
WE WILL NOT suspend or take other related
disciplinary action against an employee because of
lawful union or concerted activity.
WE WILL NOT by any like or related conduct interfere
with, restrain, or coerce employees in the exercise of
nghts guaranteed to them by the National Labor
Relations Act.
DIBERT, BANCROFT & Ross
Co., LTD., AND ITS WHOLLY
OWNED SUBSIDIARY, Ross
STEEL WORKS, INC.
(Employer)
Dated
By
(Representative)
(Title)
This is an official notice and must not be defaced by
anyone.
This notice must remain posted for 60 consecutive days
from the date of posting and must not be altered, defaced,
or covered by any other material.
Any questions concerning this notice or compliance with
its provisions, may be directed to the Board's Office, T6024
Federal
Building (Loyola), 701 Loyola Avenue, New
Orleans, Louisiana 70113, Telephone 504-527-6361.