205 NLRB 619
Young and Hay Transportation Co.
YOUNG AND HAY TRANSPORTATION CO.
Young and Hay Transportation Co. and General Driv-
ers and Helpers Union Local No. 554, affiliated with
International Brotherhood of Teamsters ,
Chauf-
feurs, Warehousemen and Helpers of America. Case
17-CA-5426
August 20, 1973
DECISION AND ORDER
BY CHAIRMAN MILLER AND MEMBERS FANNING
AND JENKINS
On April 26, 1973, Administrative Law Judge
George Turitz issued the attached Decision in this
proceeding. Thereafter, the Charging Party filed ex-
ceptions and a supporting brief.
Pursuant to the provisions of Section 3(b) of the
National Labor Relations Act, as amended, the Na-
tional Labor Relations Board has delegated its au-
thority in this proceeding to a three-member panel.
The Board has considered the record and the at-
tached Decision in light of the exceptions and brief
and has decided to affirm the rulings, findings, and
conclusions of the Administrative Law Judge and to
adopt his recommended Order.
ORDER
Pursuant to Section 10(c) of the National Labor
Relations Act, as amended, the National Labor Rela-
tions Board adopts as its Order the recommended
Order of the Administrative Law Judge and hereby
orders that Respondent, Young and Hay Transporta-
tion Co., Schuyler, Nebraska, its officers, agents, suc-
cessors, and assigns, shall take the action set forth in
the said recommended Order.
DECISION
STATEMENT OF THE CASE
GEORGE TURITZ, Administrative Law Judge: Upon a
charge filed by General Drivers and Helpers Union Local
No. 554, affiliated with International Brotherhood of Team-
sters, Chauffeurs, Warehousemen and Helpers of America
(the Union), on November 28, 1972, and served November
29, 1972, on Young and Hay Transportation Co. (Respon-
dent and, at times, the Company), the General Couusel of
the National Labor Relations Board (the Board), through
the Regional Director for Region 17, on January 10, 1973,
issued a complaint and notice of hearing which was duly
served on the Respondent. Respondent filed its answer in
which it denied all allegations of unfair labor practices. A
hearing on the complaint was held before me on March 15,
1973, at Schuyler, Nebraska, at which the General Counsel,
Respondent, and the Union were represented by their re-
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spective counsel. Respondent has submitted a brief.
Upon the entire record and from my observation of the
witnesses I make the following:
FINDINGS OF FACT
I THE BUSINESS OF RESPONDENT
Respondent, Young and Hay Transportation Co., is a
Minnesota corporation having its principal office and place
of business at Worthington, Minnesota, and terminals at
Schuyler, Nebraska, and Council Bluffs, Iowa. It is a regu-
lar-route motor common carrier transporting general com-
modities in a multistate area. In the course and conduct of
its business at the Schuyler terminal Respondent annually
derives in excess of $50,000 gross revenues for its services
in the transportation of commodities directly to locations
outside the State of Nebraska. I find that Respondent is,
and at all times material has been, an employer engaged in
commerce within the meaning of Section 2(2), (6), and (7)
of the National Labor Relations Act, as amended (the Act).
II THE LABOR ORGANIZATION INVOLVED
The Union is, and at all times material has been, a labor
organization within the meaning of Section 2(5) of the Act.
III THE UNFAIR LABOR PRACTICES
A. Introduction
Starting about the middle of May 1972 the Union con-
ducted an organizational campaign among Respondent's
employees at the Schuyler terminal. On June 28 the Union
filed a petition for certification of representatives in Case
17-RC-6949. The parties entered into a stipulation for certi-
fication upon consent election pursuant to which an elec-
tion was conducted on August 17, 1972. The tally of ballots
showed that 10 votes were cast for the Union, 1 against, and
2 were challenged. The Company filed objections to the
election which were overruled, and on January 26, 1973, the
Union was certified.
Respondent operated principally at three locations;
namely, Worthington, Schuyler, and Council Bluffs. Al
Young, secretary-treasurer of the corporation, was usually
at the main office in Worthington and visited the Schuyler
terminal a few times a year. At Schuyler Respondent had
about 11 drivers, 10 of whom, working under the supervi-
sion of Terminal Manager Dolliver, were engaged principal-
ly in hauling meats from a packing plant in Schuyler to
railroad ramps in Council Bluffs and Fremont, Nebraska.
The 11th driver, Michael Kment, carried general freight,
mostly from Omaha to Schuyler and delivered it there. He
was supervised by Tomek, the freight manager, who had
hired him. Kment usually completed his runs between 6 and
7 p.m., after Tomek had left the office. He therefore made
his reports to Tomek at the latter's residence.
The principal issue litigated at the hearing was whether
Respondent discharged Kment because it considered him a
careless driver or because it wished to retaliate against the
employees for voting for the Union. The parties also litigat-
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ed incidents of alleged threats and coercive interrogation.
B. Alleged Interrogation and Threats
1. By Freight Manager Tomek
Kment was first approached concerning the Union in the
middle of May 1972. Some 4 days later he attended a union
meeting and signed a card; he was among the last few
employees to sign. About June 1, when Kment reported in
the evening, Tomek told him that he had heard that some-
one was trying to organize the employees, and he asked
what Kment knew about it. Kment replied that he knew
nothing. About 2 weeks later, again when Kment reported,
Tomek asked him who the instigator of the Union was, and
who had approached him about it. Kment replied that he
knew of no instigator and had himself been approached by
"the whole group," all of whom asked him to help by join-
mg. Tomek told him that Young was 100 percent against the
Union and that "there just wouldn't be any union; it was
out of the question."
About a week after the election, when Kment reported to
Tomek, the latter told him: "Well, I have bad news for you.
You are going to have to start looking for a different job."
He explained that Young had come to Schuyler and held a
meeting at which he told the employees that most of the
Schuyler operation would be closed down, the washrack
building razed, and no employees would be retained to haul
meat or freight; that the only ones left would be himself,
Dolliver, the terminal manager, and one other individual.
Tomek then said, "The person you have to thank for this is
whoever brought the Union in." Kment said, "I suppose I
better start looking, then."
Respondent contends that Tomek's interrogation of
Kment did not tend to restrain him in the exercise of Section
7 rights because it occurred at Tomek's residence and was
casual and because the two men got along well. Kment was
not lingering at Tomek's residence for social intercourse; he
was making his daily reports. It was between 6:30 and 7
o'clock in the evening; presumably he would have liked to
get home. The fact that Tomek kept him there with his
questions at such a time indicated that the matter was im-
portant, not casual. The two did get along well, but they
were not personal friends. Tomek impressed one as a gentle
person, but his gentleness did not prevent him, as described
later in this Decision, from hoping that those who brought
the Union in would starve.
It is true that on June 1 Respondent's retaliatory attitude
about the employees' desire to bargain collectively had not
been expressed openly. That does not mean that Kment,
when interrogated about union activities, would not recog-
nize or perceive Respondent's retaliatory aim before its
open manifestation. In assessing the impact of interrogation
upon employees, account must be taken of their economic
dependence upon their employer. Cf. The Sinclair Company
v. N.L.R.B., (N.L.R.B. v. Gissel Packing Co.), 395 U.S. 575,
617 (1969). There was no legitimate purpose in Tomek's
interrogation and, as already found, this was not friendly
chitchat. The reasonable inference was that Respondent
was seeking information to utilize for the purpose of crush-
ing the nascent union organization. Indeed, if Kment had
felt confident that Tomek was not seeking information for
the purpose of enabling Respondent to punish him or fellow
emPloyees with whom he was engaged in concerted activi-
ties for mutual aid and protection, he would not have felt
compelled to demean himself by answering Tomek's ques-
tions with an outright lie. I find that Tomek's interrogation
of Kment on June 1 tended to coerce employees in their
exercise of Section 7 rights and that Respondent thereby
violated Section 8(a)(1) of the Act.
Tomek's interrogation of Kment on June 15, 1972, as to
who was the "instigator" of the Union, and who had ap-
proached him, was plainly coercive. It must have been diffi-
cult for Kment to conceive any possible legitimate reason
for Tomek to ask him those questions. On the contrary, it
is obvious that if an employer wishes to discriminate specifi-
cally against union adherents or "instigators," he must first
ascertain who they are. For this reason alone Tomek's inter-
rogation on June 15 was plainly coercive. See Cannon Elec-
tric Company,
151 NLRB 1465, 1468. Moreover, Tomek
coupled the interrogation with the statement that there just
would be no union, since Young was 100 percent against it.
By telling Kment, in effect, that unionization would in any
event lead to nothing and was futile, Tomek made the inter-
rogation doubly coercive. I find that by Tomek' s interroga-
tion of Kment on June 15, 1972, Respondent violated
Section 8(a)(1) of the Act.
By Tomek's telling Kment that Respondent was discon-
tinuing the freight-carrying function of the Schuyler termi-
nal and discharging drivers because the Union had been
brought in, Respondent further violated Section 8(a)(1) of
the Act.
Shortly after Young made the speech, described else-
where in this Decision, in which he let the employees know
that he was going to close down the terminal, Tomek re-
marked to Hodyc, an employee who worked in the office
and did some dispatching, that on account of the Union
everone was to be fired, and he hoped that the men would
starve to death. The conversation took place in the office,
and another employee, Rech, was also present. Although
Hodyc and Rech had heard Young's speech directly, I find
that the repetition of his coercive message by a supervisor,
especially with the coercive thrust strengthened by the
supervisor's hope that the men would starve, was an addi-
tional violation of Section 8(a)(1) of the Act.
2. By Terminal Manager Dolliver
On August 5, 1972, which was 12 days before the election,
Dolliver, the manager of Respondent's Schuyler terminal,
asked Kment, "Mike, how are you going to vote on the
Union? Are you for it or against it?" Kment replied that he
had not yet decided, and that he would not consider it "if
things were more like they should be...... Asked by Dol-
liver what he meant, he explained that his wage of $2.25 per
hour was low when compared to that of people in Omaha
doing similar work, who received over $5 per hour, and that
he thought he should be receiving about $3.50 an hour.
Dolhver agreed that Kment was entitled to more than he
was getting, but not $3.50. He suggested that $2.50 or $2.75
"would be more like it." Dolliver testified that he did not
"believe" he had asked Kment how he would vote, but I
YOUNG AND HAY TRANSPORTATION CO.
found Kment's testimony more convincing and have cred-
ited him. On cross-examination Kment testified as follows:
Q. Had you made up your mind at that time?
A. To a certain extent, I was fairly sure.
Q. But was your mind totally and completely made
up at that time?
A. Not really.
Q. So what you told him was really true?
A. Yes.
Nothwithstanding the last answer of Kment's which I have
quoted, I find that he was fairly sure of how he would vote
and that his answer to Dolliver was not truthful.
The purpose of a Board election is to permit the casting
of a secret ballot, without the necessity of any open declara-
tion of preference . There is a big difference between discus-
sion of voting intentions among employees and questioning
as to such an intention by an employer. If Kment had
simply refused to answer Dolliver's question, he would have
been displaying criticism and open difiance of his employer.
He knew from Tomek that, so far as Respondent was con-
cerned, "there just wouldn't be any union; it was out of the
question." Rather than defy Dolliver by telling him that if
he, Kment, had his way, there would be a union, or by
refusing altogether to answer , he demeaned himself by lying
as to his intentions . Dolliver had no legitimate need to know
how Kment would vote . He wanted the information in order
to put pressure on him . Thus, he indicated immediately that
he would seriously consider a 25-cent or 50-cent wage in-
crease for Kment .
I find that Dolliver's questioning of
Kment was coercive and violative of Section 8(a)(1) of the
Act. See Overrate Transportation Company, 161 NLRB 461,
467; Merritt Packing and Crating Service, Inc., and Western
Moving and Storage, Inc., 172 NLRB 1731; Mississippi Ex-
tended Care Center, d/b/a Care Inn, Collierville, 202 NLRB
No. 139.
3. Young's speech
On the morning of August 23 Young called a meeting of
the employees of the Schuyler terminal, the first in its histo-
ry. Referring to the Union's one-sided victory in the Board
election the previous week, he said that the employees evi-
dently felt that they had been abused, for which he was
sorry. "However," he went on, "I can assure you of one
thing, I will not go union ." He asked the men not to create
any problems for the packing plant the Company served,
and promised that Respondent would do its utmost to get
out of their hair in 60 days. Young testified that he implied
that he would close down the operation. I find that by
Young's speech Respondent threatened to close the termi-
nal operation and discharge the employees because they
had chosen to bargain collectively through the Union. I
further find that Respondent thereby violated Section
8(a)(1) of the Act.
C. Kment 's Discharge
Kment worked for Respondent from June 1, 1971, to
November 24, 1972, when he was discharged on the stated
ground that he was a careless driver. Kment was not out-
standing in union activities ; on the contrary, he was among
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the last few employees who joined.
Kment had five accidents while working for Respondent.
They occurred, respectively, in the fall of 1971, the spring
of 1972, and September, October, and November, 1972. The
first three accidents occurred when Kment was manuever-
ing his tractor-trailer, about 50 feet in length overall, in tight
places, and they resulted in relatively minor damage, i.e.,
$44, $90, and about nothing,' respectively. The October
accident was a rear-end collision which resulted from the
fact that Kment followed a car too closely, for which offense
he was cited by the police. His explanation was that the
pavement was wet and that the car he was following unex-
pectedly stopped to make a left turn at a corner where left
turns were prohibited. Young testified, without contradic-
tion, that reports showed that the struck car had its left turn
signal flashing. Kment reported that the damage amounted
to approximately $25.
Kment's last accident occurred at Respondent's terminal
on the night of November 21. Kment was backing his van
truck past a line of parked trailers. In the darkness he failed
to see that one of them, belonging to an outside company,
still had its tractor attached and therefore stuck out beyond
the line. He ran into the tractor, causing damage of about
$550. He informed Tomek of the incident that evening and
the next morning, after giving the driver of the damaged
tractor the necessary information, Kment went on his regu-
lar run to Omaha. Tomek reported the matter to Young,
who said, "That was no accident; it was plain carelessness."
He ordered Tomek to get an estimate of the damage. The
estimate Tomek got was for $998, and he so informed
Young. Young said he was not happy with that type of
accident and instructed Tomek to get Kment to resign.
Tomek urged Young to give Kment another chance, but
Young refused.
That evening Tomek told Kment that Young wanted his
resignation. He said he had tried to save Kment's job, but
Young would not hear of it. Kment said, " I can't blame him
because of the accident." Tomek pointed out that if they
had to discharge Kment, they could not give him a refer-
ence; and he commented that the matter would probably
not have been so bad, but because of "this union thing"
Young had a sour taste for the men, and Kment's discharge
would serve as an example for the others. Kment said that
he would think the matter over. On November 24-Novem-
ber 23 was a holiday-Kment gave his answer; namely, that
he refused to resign. He went out on his run to Omaha, and
when he returned that evening Tomek told him that by
Young's order he was as of then relieved of duty.
The record shows that Respondent had never discharged
any employee other than Kment solely because of a poor
driving history. Accidents in the course of hitching trailers
to tractors and maneuvering trailers in and into confined
areas were common-Dolliver, himself, had his share-but
Respondent apparently accepted these to some extent as
inevitable. Charles Brown had two accidents on the high-
way resulting in damage to other vehicles. On July 25, 1972,
making a right turn while he was coming out of a parking
area, a Volkswagen attempted to overtake and pass him on
1 Neither the victim nor his insurer presented a bill for the third accident
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the right. Brown's trailer, its course shifting to the right of
his tractor's course, finally squeezed the Volkswagen against
a utility pole. On August 30, 1972, Charles Brown's air hose
broke while he was driving on a highway, locking his brakes
and causing his trailer to swerve. The driver of a gas trans-
port passing in the other direction turned out of the way too
quickly and turned over. Damage was estimated at $20,000
and the driver was injured. Young admitted that
Respondent's rules required Brown to check his air hoses
before going out, but he testified that it was not practicable
for a driver to inspect everything. Charles Brown was not
disciplined. Another driver, Tom Brown, was retained not-
withstanding that on a number of occasions he was negli-
gent in maintenance of his tractor. Also, at some time not
clearly stated-probably early in 1972-he failed to use
proper braking and clutch procedure and ran into the back
of a pickup truck. He was discharged not long thereafter,
but the triggering of a pickup truck. He was discharged not
long thereafter, but the triggering incidents were miscon-
duct and what Dolliver regarded as insubordination. More-
over, Young rehired him at Worthington after a brief
interval?
Concluding findings with respect to Kment
While no driver other than Kment had ever been dis-
charged solely because of poor driving, the record does not
show with any degree of clarity what Respondent's standard
was with respect to tolerating drivers' faults. Except for
Young's rehiring Tom Brown in early 1972 in the face of a
record showing him to be a poor driver, especially negligent
with respect to maintenance, the General Counsel failed to
show that Respondent's practice was to retain drivers who
manifested more than a minor degree of negligence . Charles
Brown's collision with the Volkswagen was primarily the
fault of the other driver; and while his failure to inspect his
air hose may have involved some negligence, it did not
involve the degree of culpability that Kment' s last two acci-
dents.'
Young's appraisal of Kment's last accident as the result
of carelessness was not unreasonable or even suspicious.
Kment would have had not difficulty avoiding the collision
if he had simply been aware that the tractor was standing
there; and his first reaction was to say he did not blame
Young for wanting him terminated. As to his rear-end colli-
sion on July 25, even assuming, arguendo, that he would
have been justified in taking for granted that the car ahead
of him would not make an illegal left turn, his disregard of
the wet pavement and of the other driver's left turn signal
were plainly negligence . Even Tomek, who thought he
should have been given another chance, thought he was too
close.
I found Tomek a credible witness and have credited his
testimony that Young did not tell him that he was discharg-
2 About I month after being rehired Tom Brown lost the oil plug of an
engine that had just had a major overhaul and the engine was completely
ruined
He quit of his own accord
3 The incident with Charles Brown's air hose occurred after Young had
become "sour on the men" for voting the Union in The record contains no
basis for inferring that Young assumed that Brown opposed the Union
Ing Kment because the men had voted the Union in. His
opinion that that was Young's motivation is not sufficient
to establish that to have been fact.
As the General Counsel has failed to prove that Respon-
dent in the past had tolerated driving errors as serious as
Kment's in his last two accidents, and as Kment was not
outstanding in union activity, I find that the General Coun-
sel has failed to prove by a preponderance of the evidence
that Respondent discharged Kment in retaliation for the
employees' voting for the Union or in order to discourage
membership in the Union.
IV THE EFFECT OF THE UNFAIR LABOR
PRACTICES UPON COMMERCE
I find that the activities of Respondent set forth in section
III, above, occurring in connection with its operations de-
scribed in section I, above, have a close, intimate, and sub-
stantial relationship to trade, traffic, and commerce among
the several States and tend to lead to labor disputes burden-
ing and obstructing commerce and the free flow of com-
merce.
V THE REMEDY
As I have found that Respondent has engaged in certain
unfair labor practices, I recommend that the Board issue the
Order set forth below requiring Respondent to cease and
desist from said unfair labor practices and to take certain
affirmative action which will effectuate the policies of the
Act.
Upon the basis of the foregoing findings of fact and upon
the entire record in this case, I make the following:
CONCLUSIONS OF LAW
1. Respondent, Young and Hay Transportation Co., is
an employer engaged in commerce within the meaning of
Section 2(2), (6), and (7) of the Act.
2. General Drivers and Helpers Union Local No. 554,
affiliated with International Brotherhood of Teamsters,
Chauffeurs, Warehousemen and Helpers of America, is a
labor organization within the meaning of Section 2(5) of the
Act.
3. By interfering with, restraining, and coercing employ-
ees in the exercise of rights guaranteed in Section 7 of the
Act, Respondent has engaged in unfair labor practices with-
in the meaning of Section 8(a)(1) of the Act.
4. The unfair labor practices described above are unfair
labor practices affecting commerce within the meaning of
Section 2(6) and (7) of the Act.
5. By discharging Michael Kment, Respondent did not
engage in unfair labor practices within the meaning of the
Act.
Upon the foregoing findings of fact, conclusions of law,
and the entire record, and pursuant to Section 10(c) of the
Act, I hereby issue the following recommended:
YOUNG AND HAY TRANSPORTATION CO.
ORDER4
Respondent, Young and Hay Transportation Co., its offi-
cers, agents, successors, and assigns, shall:
1. Cease and desist from:
(a) Interrogating
employees
with
respect
to
any
employee's activity, membership, or interest in, or on behalf
of, any labor organization in a manner, or under circum-
stances, constituting interference, restraint, or coercion in
violation of Section 8(a)(1) of the Act.
(b) Interrogating employees as to their voting intentions
in a Board election.
(c) Informing employees that their attempts to organize
in a union would be futile because Respondent would not
tolerate a union and would make no contract with any
union.
(d) Threatening to close down its terminal operation or
to discharge employees because the employees vote for the
Union in a Board election or otherwise indicate their desire
to bargain collectively.
(e) In any like or related manner interfering with, re-
straining, or coercing employees in the exercise of rights
guaranteed in Section 7 of the Act.
2. Take the following affirmative action which, I find,
will effectuate the policies of the Act.
(a) Post at its place of business in Schuyler, Nebraska,
copies of the attached notice marked "Appendix."5 Copies
of said notice, to be furnished by the Regional Director of
Region 17, shall, after being signed by a representative of
Respondent, be posted by Respondent immediately upon
receipt thereof and be maintained by it for 60 consecutive
days thereafter, in conspicuous places, including all places
where notices to employees are customarily posted. Reason-
able steps shall be taken by Respondent to ensure that said
notices are not altered, defaced, or covered by any other
material.
(b) Notify said Regional Director of Region 17, in writ-
ing, within 20 days from the date of the receipt of this
Decision, what steps Respondent has taken to comply here-
with.
IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that the complaint be dismissed
insofar as it alleges unfair labor practices not specifically
found herein.
° In the event that no exceptions are filed as provided in Sec 102 46 of the
Rules and Regulations of the National Labor Relations Board, the findings,
conclusions, and recommended Order herein shall, as provided in Sec 102 48
of the Rules and Regulations , automatically become the findings, conclu-
sions, decision , and Order of the Board and all objections thereto shall be
deemed waived for all purposes
5In the event that the Board's Order is enforced by a Judgment of the
United States Court of Appeals , the words in the notice reading, "Posted by
Order of the National Labor Relations Board" , shall read, "Posted Pursuant
to a Judgment of the United States Court of Appeals Enforcing an Order of
the National Labor Relations Board "
APPENDIX
NOTICE To EMPLOYEES
POSTED BY ORDER OF THE
NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD
An Agency of the United States Government
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WE WILL NOT question you as to your voting inten-
tions in any NLRB election.
WE WILL NOT question you as to any employee's union
activity or membership, or as to his interest in any labor
organization, under such circumstances, or in such a
way, as to constitute coercion.
WE WILL NOT tell you that your attempts to organize
in a union would be futile, or that we will not tolerate
a union, or that we will make no contract with any
union.
WE WILL NOT threaten to close down our terminal or
any part thereof or to discharge employees because
they vote for the Union in an NLRB election, or be-
cause they indicate in any other way that they wish to
bargain collectively.
WE WILL NOT in any like or related manner interfere
with, restrain, or coerce you in the exercise of your right
to self-organization, to bargain collectively through
representatives of your own choosing, or to engage in
other concerted activities for the purpose of collective
bargaining or other mutual aid or protection, or to
refrain any or all such activities.
YOUNG AND HAY TRANSPORTA-
TION CO
(Employer)
Dated
By
(Representative)
(Title)
This is an official notice and must not be defaced by
anyone.
This notice must remain posted for 60 consecutive days
from the date of posting and must not be altered, defaced,
or covered by any other material. Any questions concerning
this notice or compliance with its provisions may be direct-
ed to the Board's Office 616 Two Gateway Center, Fourth
At State, Kansas City, Kansas 64101, Telephone 816-374-
4518.