222 NLRB 623
Valley Hospital, Ltd.
VALLEY HOSPITAL, LTD.
Valley Hospital, Ltd. and Nevada Nurses Association,
affiliated with American Nurses Association. Case
31-CA-5074
January 29, 1976
DECISION AND ORDER
By MEMBERS JENKINS, PENELLO, AND WALTHER
On November 3, 1975, Administrative Law Judge
James T. Rasbury issued the attached Decision in
this proceeding. Thereafter, the General Counsel
filed exceptions and a supporting brief.
Pursuant to the provisions of Section 3(b) of the
National Labor Relations Act, as amended, the Na-
tional Labor Relations Board has delegated its au-
thority in this proceeding to a three-member panel.
The Board has considered the record and the at-
tached Decision in light of the exceptions and brief
and has decided to affirm the rulings, findings, and
conclusions of the Administrative Law Judge and to
adopt his recommended Order.
ORDER
Pursuant to Section 10(c) of the National Labor
Relations Act, as amended, the National Labor Re-
lations Board adopts as its order the recommended
Order of the Administrative Law Judge and hereby
orders that the complaint be, and it hereby is, dis-
missed in its entirety.
DECISION
STATEMENT OF THE CASE
JAMES T. RASBURY, Administrative Law Judge: This case
was heard before me in Las Vegas, Nevada, on August 22,
1975.1 The charge in this matter was filed by the Nevada
Nurses Association and was dated February 10, 1975, and
date stamped by Region 31 in Los Angeles as having been
received on February 11 at 11 a.m. The complaint and
notice of hearing issued on June 24, and was amended July
23. The complaint alleges the Respondent to have violated
the Act by (a) surveillance, (b) impression of surveillance,
and (c) interrogation, all in violation of Section 8(a)(1) of
the
National
Labor
Relations
Act,
as
amended.
Respondent's answer duly filed on July 10, acknowledged
the requisite commerce data to establish jurisdiction under
the Act but denied all' other allegations of the complaint.
An amended answer was filed August 18.
i All dates hereinafter will refer to the year 1975 unless otherwise indi-
cated
Issues-
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This rather uncomplicated factual situation presents in-
teresting issues concerning (1) whether or not nonemployee
union comnuttee representatives may be questioned with
resulting violations of Section 8(a)(1) of the Act, and (2)
whether or not information gained by an attorney in prepa-
ration for hearing, when revealed to union representatives,
can create an impression of surveillance, or (3) become
proof of actual surveillance violative of Section 8(a)(1) of
the Act.
All parties were given full opportunity to participate, to
produce relevant evidence, to examine and cross-examine
witnesses, to argue orally, and to file briefs. Helpful briefs
were received from both the Respondent and the General
Counsel.
Upon the entire record in the case' and from my observa-
tion of the witnesses and their demeanor, I make the fol-
lowing:
FINDINGS-OF FACT' 2
I. THE BUSINESS OF RESPONDENT
Respondent is an independent, investor-owned proprie-
tary hospital offering the usual hospital services as a health
care institution in Las Vegas, Nevada. Respondent, in the
course and conduct of its business operations, annually
purchases and receives goods valued in excess of $50,000
from suppliers located outside the State of Nevada. In the
course and conduct of its business operations, Respondent
annually derives gross revenues in excess of $500,000. On
the basis of these admitted facts I find Respondent to be,
and at all times material herein has, been, an employer en-
gaged in commerce and in a business affecting commerce
within the meaning of Section 2(6) and (7) of the Act.
II. THE LABOR ORGANIZATION INVOLVED
The General Counsel alleged the Nevada Nurses Associ-
ation, an affiliate of the American Nurses Association and
in this matter the Charging Party, to be a labor organiza-
tion within the meaning of the Act. This allegation was
denied in the answer, to the complaint filed by the Respon-
dent. At the hearing the parties stipulated that the question
of whether or not the Nevada Nurses Association is or is
not a labor organization within the meaning of the Act had
been exhaustively litigated in two previous representation
cases 3 currently before the 'Board for resolution. As a con-
sequence, this issue was not litigated in the instant case and
it was agreed that, for purposes of 'resolving that issue, the
Administrative Law Judge herein, would be bound by the
2 The Respondent did not call any witnesses However, counsel did in-
dulge in cross-examination of General Counsel's witnesses in a manner
which helped reveal the totality of the conversations which provided the
basis for the allegations of the complaint. I am convinced that General
Counsel's witnesses were totally honest and candid in their testimony, but I
am equally convinced that, being human; their ability to totally recall every
word that was said in a conversation some 6 months previous to their testi-
mony was not infallible.
3 Case 31-RC-306Q involving Valley
Hospital,
Ltd.
and
Case
31-RC-3199 involving St. Rose de Lima Hospital
222 NLRB No. 102
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DECISIONS OF NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD
Board's determination. On October 16, the Board issued its
decision in Case 31-RC-3060 wherein it found the Nevada
Nurses Assocation to be a labor organization.' On the ba-
sis of this factual information, I now find the Nevada
Nurses Association, affiliated with American Nurses Asso-
ciation, to be a labor organization within the meaning of
Section 2(5) of the Act.
III. THE ALLEGED UNFAIR LABOR PRACTICES
The Evidence
The testimony revealed that a meeting was held on Feb-
ruary 10 in the administrative offices of the Valley Hospital
attended by Mr. Showalter, administrator of the Respon-
dent hospital, and Mr. Efroymson, the attorney repre-
senting the Respondent, and Nurses Sandra Smiecinski,
Dee Grubbs, and Cora Stockman, each of whom were
members of the Economic and General Welfare Commit-
tee of the Nevada Nurses Association.' Sandra Smiecinski
is a staff nurse employed by the St. Rose de Lima Hospi-
tal,' while Dee Grubbs and Cora Stockman are nurses em-
ployed by the Clark County School District.
By way of background it should be noted that a repre-
sentation petition -was filed by Local 707 of the Service
Employees International Union seeking to represent the
employees of the Respondent herein on December 30,
1974. The Nevada Nurses Association, the Charging Party
herein, had intervened in that representation case which
was scheduled for hearing on February 11; counsel for the
Valley Hospital had raised questions concerning the validi-
ty of the authorization cards submitted by Local 707, be-
cause of supervisory solicitation and the overall questions
concerning the appropriate unit.
Cora Stockman testified that she called the Respondent
requesting a meeting for the purpose of hand delivering a
copy of an unfair labor practice charge that had just been
filed with the National Labor Relations Board. All the evi-
dence indicates that the meeting between the three hereto-
fore named nurses and Mr. Showalter and Mr. Efroymson
was conducted in a very cordial and friendly atmosphere.
Coffee was served and the evidence clearly indicates that
there were questions asked on both sides and contributions
to conversation made on both sides. The nurses repre-
senting the Charging Party were aware that a petition had
been filed by Local 707 at both the Respondent hospital
and at the Desert Springs hospital. The evidence further
indicates that Mr. Showalter and Mr. Efroymson had been
working in preparation for the representation hearing,
which was to occur the following day.
During the course of the conversations Mr. Efroymson
revealed considerable knowledge concerning the meetings
and organizational efforts of the SEIU,7 as well as the Ne-
vada Nurses Association. According to Nurse Smiecinski,
he knew that the Nevada Nurses Association meetings
were poorly attended and "stated that he felt that this was
too bad, because very good general information had been
given and he felt that people again should attend these
meetings and find out the content of the information."
Efroymson also revealed during the course of these conver-
sations that he had knowledge that a nurse from St. Rose
de Lima Hospital had been intimidated by other partici-
pants in a meeting of the SEIU because she had asked a
number of "provocative" questions from the meeting floor.
During the conversation Nurse Smiecinski indicated to Mr.
Efroymson that she was the nurse in question. Efroymson
also indicated that he had knowledge that following that
particular meeting of SEIU a Dr. Batdorf had sought to
solicit membership from Nurse Smiecinski and others in
her group. During the course of the conversation Mr.
Efroymson indicated to the nurses that he had submitted
the information to the National Labor Relations Board
concerning the solicitation of union memberships by doc-
tors.
The testimony also revealed that during the course of the
representation hearing on either February 11 or 12 Nurse
Smieclnski approached Mr. Efroymson and volunteered
the information that the meeting with Dr. Batdorf had pos-
sibly occurred in November instead of December as had
been earlier related to him. In the course of this conversa-
tion, there was some mention of the number of union au-
thorization cards which might have been obtained at the
particular meeting, but the record is far from clear that this
information was requested by Mr. Efroymson, and very
well may have been voluntarily offered by Nurse Smiecin-
ski. During this conversation Mr. Efroymson asked Nurse
Smiecinski if she would be willing to give a statement con-
cerning these events to the National Labor
Relations
Board Resident Officer in Las Vegas, stating that it could
be important to Valley Hospital's challenge to the SEIU's
showing of interest.
It was clear from the evidence that there are supervisory
nurses who are members of SEIU Local 707, as well as the
Nevada Nurses Association, and that medical doctors are
members of Local 676 of the SEIU. Norma Cleveland,
president of SEIU, Local 707, was, or had been during a
portion of the critical time herein, a head nurse at the Re-
spondent hospital. Nurse Smiecinski also acknowledged
that she may have told Sister Bridget, the assistant admin-
istrator of St. Rose de Lima Hospital, of her experience at
the SEIU Meeting. Smiecinski also testified that Miss Gen-
eraux, the director of nurses at St. Rose, is a former mem-
ber of the Board of Directors of the Nevada Nurses Asso-
ciation.
Valley Hospital, Ltd, 220 NLRB No 216, fn. 3 (1975).
5 While it is well established that contents of the charge do not limit the
scope of the complaint, it is interesting to note that all of the evidence
presented occurred after the charge was filed herein
6It was stipulated at the hearing that St Rose de Lima Hospital satisfied
the jurisdictional requirements of the Act
' The full and correct name appears to be Health, Professional and Tech-
nical Employees Association, Local 707, Service Employees International
Union, AFL-CIO
Analysis and Legal Conclusions
There was no evidence introduced of any actual surveil-
lance by the Respondent. All of the evidence related to the
conversation which occurred in the administrative office of
the Respondent hospital in the course of approximately 45
minutes on February 10, and the exchange between Attor-
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ney Efroymson and Nurse Smiecinski at the representation
hearing on February i 1 or 12. In the Board's decision in
Stewart and Stevenson Services, Inc., 164 NLRB 741 (1967),
the Board stated in footnote 2 as follows:
The Trial Examiner found that Respondent was
chargeable with engaging in surveillance because of
the evidence that Respondent was well aware of the
many union activities in the plant. However, there is
no evidence that Respondent acquired this knowledge
by acts of surveillance. Accordingly, we do not adopt
the Trial Examiner's finding that Respondent violated
Section 8(a)(1) by engaging in surveillance.
This finding was reached by the Board in the context of a
case in which it was found that the Respondent had en-
gaged in widespread violations of Section 8(a)(1) of the
Act.
Under all the circumstances of this case and absent a
scintilla of evidence of actual surveillance, a similar fording
here is certainly dictated. I shall recommend dismissal of
paragraph 5(a) of the amended complaint alleging unlaw-
ful surveillance by the Respondent.
Respondent's counsel points out there were no employ-
ees of the Respondent involved in either the February 10
meeting, or in the conversation between Nurse Smiecinski
and Mr. Efroymson at the representation hearing on Feb-
ruary 11 or 12, and thus argues that there has been no
interference, restraint, or coercion of employees in the exer-
cise of their Section 7 rights. The General Counsel argues
that Sandra Smiecinski is a statutory employee within the
meaning of the Act, although not an employee of the Re-
spondent. He contends that acts of interference directed
toward statutory employees, albeit nonemployees of the of-
fender, violate the Act, citing Frank Visceglia and Vincent
Visceglia t/a Peddie Buildings, 203 NLRB 265 (1973); Scott
Hudgens, 192 NLRB 671 (1971); and Fabric Services, Inc.,
190 NLRB 540 (1971). The Peddie Buildings case involved
the picketing by employees of their employer's building
located within a nonretail commercial center and the find-
ing by the Board that under all the circumstances of that
particular case where the owner of the commercial center
(not the employer of the pickets) threatened the arrest of
the pickets that he was in violation of the employees'
8(a)(1) rights. The Scott Hudgens case is a similar case
wherein the owner of a shopping center was found guilty of
an 8(a)(1) violation of the Act by threatening to have em-
ployees of an employer located within the shopping center
arrested because they were trespassing on private property.
In the Fabric Services case the precise issue was resolved by
the Administrative Law Judge when he framed the defense
of the Respondent as follows:
Rather, it defends the complaint's unfair labor prac-
tice allegations against it solely and entirely upon the
ground that because it was not Smoak's employer, it
cannot, as a matter of law, be found to have violated
Section 8(a)(1) of the Act by its actions toward him.
In Fabric Services, Smoak, an employee of the Southern
Bell Telephone System, was dispatched to Fabric Services'
plant to perform work on Southern Bell's telephone com-
munications located at the plant. Smoak arrived at the
Fabric Services plant wearing a pen pocket protector which
carried a prounion label. Shortly after arriving to perform
the necessary work, a Fabric Services supervisor told
Smoak that he would not be permitted to work in the Fab-
ric Services plant while wearing a union pocket protector.
Smoak returned to Southern Bell's work center, reported
the incident, and was advised by his supervisor to remove
the pocket protector and return to Fabric Services and per-
form his assignment. Both Southern Bell and Fabric Serv-
ices were found guilty of violating Section 8(a)(1) of the
Act, the Administrative Law Judge pointing out that Sec-
tion 2(3) declares, "the term employee shall include any
employee, and shall not be limited to the employees of a
particular employer, unless the Act explicitly states other-
wise. . . .
It appears from these cases, at least, that under certain
circumstances a respondent may interfere with the rights of
employees of another employer in a manner violative of
Section 8 (a)(1) of the Act. However, these cases are distin-
guishable from the instant situation in that in each instance
the respondent nonemployer directly interfered with the
rights of employees engaged in conduct protected by the
Act. In the instant case the knowledge Efroymson impart-
ed to Smiecinski, Grubbs, and Stockman which might have
tended to create an impression of surveillance, would have
to be communicated to the employees of this respondent
before there could be a possible violation of Section 8(a)(1)
of the Act. In Kopp-Evans Construction Company,
143
NLRB 690 (1963), the Administrative Law Judge conclud-
ed, and the Board adopted the conclusions, that an em-
ployer who had made several hostile antiunion remarks to
a building trades union representative working as a jour-
neyman for another employer, had not violated the Act. In
another case, Max Silver & Son, 123 NLRB 269 (1959), the
Board adopted the findings of the Administrative Law
Judge who found that although an employer had made
coercive remarks to union organizers, nevertheless, "[ S]ince
the [Employer] was not then represented by the Union as
bargaining [agent] for his employees, and since he was
speaking to union officials and not, in this instance, threat-
ening employees, [he] was within his rights." The Board
spoke directly to the question in Reilley Cartage Company,
110 NLRB 1742 (1954), when it reversed the Administra-
tive Law Judge's finding that a coercive remark directed at
union organizers constituted an 8(a)(1) violation. The
Board said, "we do not believe that these remarks made to
the union organizers should, under the circumstances of
this case, he deemed to be coercive, or otherwise violative
of the rights which the Act guarantees employees." Earlier
cases, wherein the Board found 8(a)(1) violations, were
either coupled with other violations of the Act or were
found to be remarks, actually, or most likely to be relayed
to the employees whom the union organizer represented .8
After a careful analysis of all of the testimony and with due
consideration to the cordial atmosphere in which this mu-
tual exchange of information occurred, I am unable to con-
clude that the remarks made by a knowledgeable and obvi-
8Arhngton-Fairfax Broadcasting Company, Inc., 95 NLRB 846 (1951),
Rosenblatt's Friendly Mountain Line, 56 NLRB 769 (1944): and The Feder-
bush Co. Inc, 34 NLRB 539 (1941)
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ously competent attorney to three nonemployee union
committeemen to be violative of the Act in any way.
It is true, as the General Counsel argues, that Nurse
Smiecmski quoted Efroymson as having said he had been
"watching" the SEIU and the Nevada Nurses Association
since the change in the law that brought hospital employ-
ees under the protection of the Act. If taken literally, this
would have to constitute surveillance, or impression of sur-
veillance, but on cross-examination Smiecinski acknowl-
edged that she didn't remember the exact words used by
Efroymson. If the word "watching" was used, I am con-
vinced-that it was in a context that was intended to imply
that he was staying abreast of what actions the various
unions were taking in their efforts to represent hospital
employees. As a labor law specialist, this is part of his job.
The evidence regarding the questioning of any of the
committeemen or the employees is equally nebulous and
lacking in specificity. While Nurse Smiecinski testified that
she definitely -reealled providing Mr. Efroymson with in-
formation regarding the number of cards which may have
been signed at one of the SEIU meetings she was not able
to definitively state whether she had volunteered this infor-
mation or whether it had been requested by Mr. Efroym-
son. Such indefiniteness hardly constitutes a preponder-
ance of the evidence.
In summary, I find the conversation which occurred on
February 10 between Hospital Administrator Showalter,
Attorney Efroymson, and Nurses Smiecinski, Grubbs, and
Stockman to have been a congenial, intelligent discussion
among educated and knowledgeable people that did not
interfere with, coerce, or restrain the rights of employees as
protected by the Act. The same is true of any exchange of
information between Efroymson and Smiecinski on Febru-
ary 11 or 12 .1
CONCLUSIONS OF LAW
1. Respondent is an employer engaged in commerce
within the meaning of Section 2(6) and (7) of the Act.
2. The Nevada Nurses Association is a labor organiza-
tion within the meaning of Section 2(5) of the Act.
3. The General Counsel has failed to prove by a prepon-
derance of the evidence that any of the allegations set forth
in the complaint herein are meritorious and should be sus-
tained.
Upon the basis of the foregoing findings of fact, conclu-
sions of law, and the entire record, and pursuant to Section
10(c) of the Act, I hereby issue the following recommend-
ed:
ORDERI0
The complaint is hereby dismissed in its entirety for lack
of merit.
')See Woodruff Electric Cooperative Corporation,
174 NLRB 575, 581
(1969), Trojan Steel Corporation, 180 NLRB 704 (1970)
10 In the event no exceptions are filed as provided by Sec 102 46 of the
Rules and Regulations of the National Labor Relations Board, the findings,
conclusions,
and recommended Order herein shall, as provided in
Sec 102.48 of the Rules and Regulations, be adopted by the Board and
become its findings, conclusions, and Order, and all objections thereto shall
be deemed waived for all purposes