260 NLRB 40
United States Postal Service
I)E C ISI()NS ()O NA I ()NAL
I AI()R RELATIONS H()ARI)
United States Postal Service and National Associ-
ation of Letter Carriers, Branch 4016 and John
Avey; Wayne Waite. Cases 13-CA-19014-P,
13-CA
-19397-IP and 13-CA 19398P'
February 9, 1982
DECISION AND ORDER
BY MFMnE11 RS F,\NNIN(,, JIENKINS, AND
ZIMMEIRMAN
On September
19,
1980, Administrative
Law
Judge George F. McIlnerny issued the attached De-
cision in this proceeding. Thereafter, the General
Counsel filed exceptions and a supporting brief,
and Respondent filed a brief in support of the Ad-
ministrative Law Judge's Decision.
Pursuant to the provisions of Section 3(b) of the
National Labor Relations Act, as amended, the Na-
tional Labor Relations Board has delegated its au-
thority in this proceeding to a three-member panel.
The Board has considered the record and the at-
tached Decision in light of the exceptions and
briefs and has decided to affirm the rulings, find-
ings,' and conclusions of the Administrative Law
Judge and to adopt his recommended Order.
This case turns largely on credibility. Although
we have decided to adopt the Administrative Law
Judge's ultimate credibility resolutions, we have
reservations about his approach to some credibility
matters. For example, we are troubled by his blan-
ket determination to discredit, based upon demea-
nor factors, testimony by Charging Party Avey,
except when such testimony is corroborated con-
cerning a series of comments allegedly made by
Postmaster Williams to Avey over a span of sever-
al years. Although it is well settled that ordinarily
the Board will not disturb credibility findings that
are based upon observations of demeanor, there are
instances in which the factor of demeanor is enti-
tled to less weight. See, for example, El Rancho
Market, 235 NLRB 468, 470 (1978). Indeed, in the
instant case neither Williams nor any other Re-
spondent witness denied that some of the comments
testified to by Avey were made. Nor was the fact
that certain such comments were made contradict-
ed by other record evidence or by the inherent
probabilities of the particular incident during which
the comments were allegedly uttered. Futhermore,
at least some of the comments testified to by Avey
alone were of a piece with remarks by Williams
that were testified to by fully credible witnesses.
t In see 11. A, par 19 of his Decision, the Administrativse Law Judge
referred to the incident of Decemb
er 6, 1977. Ihe incident il question
occurred on August 6, 1977. 11n sec 11, A, par 25, of his Decision, the
Administrative Law Judge referred to the testinltoly of witless I)Donna
Allen The witness in question is named
)(oliln I
ie
iiels
We note and
correct these errors
In much the same vein we are troubled, and puz-
zled, by certain observations made by the Adminis-
trative Law Judge in the course of resolving other
credibility disputes..2
For example, the General
Counsel offered as additional background tending
to show Postmaster Williams' animus an incident
testified to by union official Dombrowski during
which Williams allegedly characterized Avey as a
"troublemaker" and "agitator." Although the Ad-
ministrative Law Judge credited Dombrowski's un-
controverted testimony about this incident and Wil-
liams'
statements,
he apparently discounted
its
worth with the enigmatic observation that he could
not "read any significance" into Dombrowski's
"bold and conclusionary assertions."
Finally, the Administrative Law Judge's treat-
ment of credibility in connection with the May 25,
1979, meeting of employees at the post office,
is
open to serious question in several respects. Suffice
it to say that the Administrative Law Judge dis-
credited testimony by Avey that was largely cor-
roborated by Avey's fellow Charging Party, Waite,
and by employee Carole Hedges, who was previ-
ously found to be a credible witness. In so doing,
the Administrative Law Judge credited Williams,
although previously he observed that Williams pos-
sessed a "remarkably poor memory"; employee
Cousins, although previously he remarked that
Cousins "had a very poor memory and was obvi-
ously uncomfortable on the witness stand"; and
employee Daniels, although she "did not have too
firm a memory of the meeting."
As indicated at the outset, our difficulties with
the Administrative Law Judge's handling of credi-
bility notwithstanding, we have decided to adopt
his recommendation to dismiss the complaint in its
entirety. In brief, even if we resolved in the Gener-
al Counsel's rather than Respondent's favor the
several credibility resolutions about which we have
doubts, the ultimate result would not be changed.
Thus, in agreement with the Administrative Law
Judge, our examination of the entire record per-
suades us that, while there was a high degree of
tension and conflict between Postmaster Williams
and the Charging Parties, and this conflict fre-
quently erupted into unseemly squabbles and re-
criminations, this was largely a matter of the per-
sonalities involved rather than the result of any
union or other protected activity or considerations.
2 In sevxerall instances, the Administrative L asw Judge's expression of
his findings is couched in such ambiguous terms that it is difficult toi de-
termine his precise mraninig
See, for example. ALJD. the fourth para-
graph before the end of sce 11, A, where the Administrative Law Judge
;ipparently concluded Ihat Williams hostility toward Asey was personal,
and inot conicctted Ilo Avey's status or activity as a union stew ard
Ihe first incident alleged in the corinplaint tio invoslve ' iolations of :he
Act
260 NLRB No. 9
4()
UNITED STATES POSTAL SERVICE
Simply stated, we think the General Counsel failed
to present a prima facie case of discrimination. Ac-
cordingly, we shall dismiss the complaint in its en-
tirety.
ORDER
Pursuant to Section 10(c) of the National Labor
Relations Act, as amended, the National Labor Re-
lations Board adopts as its Order the recommended
Order of the Administrative
Law Judge and
hereby orders that the complaint be. and it hereby
is, dismissed in its entirety.
MEIMBER ZIMMIERMAN, concurring:
I agree with the Administrative
Law Judge's
conclusion, for the reasons stated by him, that Re-
spondent did not violate the Act as alleged in the
complaint. With respect to the alleged unlawful
discharge of Avey, I note that Respondent relied in
part on previous disciplinary actions which
had
been rescinded through the grievance procedure or
in the settlement of unfair labor practice charges.
While this reliance may show an unlawful motive
for Avey's discharge, as the General Counsel con-
tends, I find that Respondent established that it
would have discharged Avey in the absence of his
exercise of rights protected by the Act. According
to the credited testimony. there is no additional
evidence of antiunion motivation. Further, leaving
aside the conduct which had been the subject of ar-
bitration or unfair labor practice charge settle-
ments, it is clear that Avey's work record was poor
and that in April 1979 his step increase was de-
ferred because of inadequate work performance.
This, coupled with his admitted failure to deliver
postage due letters and the admitted loss of regis-
tered mail, is persuasive evidence that Respondent
would have discharged Avey regardless of his ex-
ercise of rights protected by the Act.
DECISION
STATFMI:NTI OF THE CASE
GEORGE F. MCINERNY, Administrative Law Judge:
Based on a charge filed in Case 13-CA-19014-P on
August 10, 1979, by National Association of Letter Car-
riers, Branch 4016, herein referred to as the Union, the
Regional Director for Region 13 of the National Labor
Relations Board, herein referred to as the Board, issued a
complaint on September 24,
1979, alleging that the
United States Postal Service, herein referred to as Re-
spondent, or the Postal Service, had violated Section
8(a)(1) of the National Labor Relations Act, as amended.
29 U.S.C. § 151, et seq., herein referred to as the Act. On
September 27, 1979, Respondent filed an answer denying
the commission of any unfair labor practices.
Then, on December 14, 1979, John Avey. an individu-
al, filed a charge in Case 13-CA-19397-P alleging that
he had been discharged by Respondent because he had
engaged in union activities and had given evidence to the
Board in connection with a prior charge. On the same
date, Wayne Waite, an individual, filed a charge in Case
13-CA-19398-P containing the same allegations. On Jan-
uary 29. 1980, the Regional Director issued an order
consolidating these two cases and Case 13-CA-19014-P.
a consolidated complaint, and a notice of hearing. Re-
spondent filed an answer' to the consolidated complaint
continuing to deny the commission of any unfair labor
practices.
Pursuant to the above-mentioned notice of hearing,
and orders by said Regional Director dated February I
and 15, 1980, a hearing was held before me at Chicago,
Illinois, on April 28 and 29, 1980, at which all parties ap-
peared and had the opportunity to present testimonial
and documentary evidence, to examine and cross-exam-
ine witnesses, and to argue orally. After the close of the
hearing the General Counsel and the Postal Service sub-
mitted briefs, which have been carefully considered.
Upon the entire record in this case, and from my ob-
servation of the witnesses and their demeanor. I make
the following:
FINiINGS OF FACT
I. JURISDICT ION
The United States Postal Service provides postal serv-
ices for the United States of America. Its main office is
located in Washington, D.C., and it operates various
facilities throughout the United
States, including an
office in Matteson, 2
Illinois, which is involved in this
case
The Board has jurisdiction over this matter by
virtue of Section 1209 of the Postal Reorganization Act,
39 U.S.C. § 101, et seq.
II
IHi
i
Al I EII)
UINIAIR I AHOR PRACT'ICIS
A. Background
The post office at Matteson, Illinois, is a relatively
small installation located about 25 miles south of Chica-
go's Loop. It is apparently in a semirural area since of
the four or five carrier routes working out of the office,
at least one is a driving route, where the carrier places
mail in boxes erected on the side of the road. During the
period of this case the management staff consisted of one
supervisor, and the postmaster, Bobbie Williams. Wil-
liams was a 21-year employee of the Postal Service,
having started as a letter carrier. He worked as a station
' Ihe an,
er
t as not filed unti April 7. 198() There is nor reco
,rd
oif
requelt for extle..inon or tlnile 11 file Ihi, an,.er and it
,,as filed hbeind
Ihe IO ds', prr\ ided in Sez
102 2) of the Board', Rule, and Regulations
nrld Slt teniles of 'ronceduLre
Series 8,i a
ametndcad Jlo\ercr, there
las
no mntioon Io strike this. ainrer. nor did the General Counsel movse for
,umrmars
lidgnlenl In these circumstlance
I inifer and finid that the time
for filifng Ihqe ;ller
nllst have been extendcd, aind mlernlion ol f till fact
ri/d\ crteltl,
oirmilled from the record
2 Misspelled
is "Midioi"
Ihroughout
the record
the Coltiplilt ul-
leges the lasi, er admit,, inld I find thua N tionail A'...cilIolln or lettlr
('arricrs
iBruin hi 4(116, is
I lbeor orgiliiillionl eltlhill tIhe Irt .illilig of S.
2(5)
l Iht'
t
,e I
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manager in Chicago before being appointed postmaster
in Matteson in 1975.
The two individuals who participated in most of the
operative events of this case, and who were discharged
from the Matteson post office late in 1970, are John
Avey and Wayne A. Waite. Avey was hired as a part-
time flexible carrier in December 1974 and Waite, in the
same position, in March 1975. On September 15, 1976,
these two employees transferred from the Richton Park
post office to Matteson. Part-time flexible carriers work,
or are supposed to work, an average of 40 hours in a 6-
day week, filling in for regular carriers and also as clerks
in the post office.
The carriers, both permanent and part time, at Matte-
son, were represented by Branch 4071 of the National
Association of Letter Carriers in 1976.3 In July 1977,
Avey was either appointed or elected as alternate ste-
ward for Branch 4071, then on August 29, 1977, he was
elected steward and Waite was elected alternate steward.
In November 1977, the employees at Matteson affiliated
with Branch 4016 of the same Union. Avey and Waite
continued as steward and alternate steward until they
were terminated.
The record is silent on relations between Avey and
Waite and Williams before July 1977, although it is noted
that Williams had asked them to transfer from Richton
Park to Matteson in September 1976. Whatever those re-
lations were, the evidence in this case shows a series of
conversations and meetings between Avey and Williams
where the postmaster showed a continuing dislike and
hostility toward Avey. There is also a sharp conflict be-
tween the testimony of Avey and Waite, on the one
hand, and Williams and Donna Daniels, a clerk and
sometime supervisor, on the other concerning certain of
these incidents.
The General
Counsel
introduced
evidence on a
number of these incidents which occurred prior to Feb-
ruary 10, 1979, a date 6 months before the filing of the
charge in Case 13-CA-19014-P, in order to establish the
union animus and hostility of Williams toward these em-
ployees' union activities and later involvement with
Board charges, and hence to show Williams' motivations
for his subsequent actions.
The first of these incidents occurred in late July or
early August 1977, shortly after Avey had become the
alternate steward for Branch 4071. According to Avey,
he was out on his route, admittedly late, around 4 p.m.
when Williams drove up in his own car. Williams asked
Avey why he had not called in to say he could not get
the route done on time. Avey replied that the route was
too long, and that his leg was bothering him. 4 Williams
then told Avey that he was a troublemaker "because of
not getting the route done, and because of the griev-
ance" Avey had filed. Avey asked if that was a threat
and Williams replied that he could take it any way he
wanted.
Then Williams said that he had received a complaint
that Avey had "destroyed" a mailbox at a house on his
route. He told Avey that he was going to that house to
a The clerks were represented by another unilon which is not inLolsed
here.
' Both these reasons are recurring Ihermcs in this case
get a letter, and that Avey would be sorry. Avey then
asked if he could go on and finish the route, and Wil-
liams said that was all right.
Williams could not recall the date of this incident, but
testified that on the day in question he received a call
from a "postal patron" who was irate because Avey had
broken his mailbox, and had walked over some bushes
while delivering the mail. Williams left the post office
and found Avey out on his route. He asked if he had de-
livered to the complainant's address, then asked what
happened. Avey explained that he put the mail in a slot,
and the slot fell down. Avey admitted that he had
walked across the lawn.5
The substantive difference in these versions of this
conversation is reflected in the differing versions of the
many conversations and confrontations between Avey
and Williams throughout this hearing. Avey consistently
claimed that Williams continually criticized him for his
union activities, punctuating those criticisms with threats
of discipline, suspension, and discharge. Williams did not
deny the criticisms, but denied the threats. It is clear
from his testimony, and from all of the other testimony
in this case, that Williams' criticisms of Avey resulted
from Avey's poor work and suspected malingering.
My own observation of Avey's demeanor while he
was testifying, and a review of his testimony in the
record of this case, convinces me that he is excitable,
even hysterical, and, despite the General Counsel's refer-
ences to his memory on dates and times, I find that
memory was largely the product of his imagination. Wil-
liams exhibited a remarkably poor memory for dates and
times. He was not even asked questions about a number
of the incidents involving Avey. However, Williams im-
pressed me as a generally credible witness on the basis of
his demeanor and the record evidence of that testimony.
Thus I generally credit Williams, and, as noted further
in this decision, I do not credit Avey's testimony on sub-
stantive matters unless it is independently corroborated,
or made manifest by other established facts, or the inher-
ent probabilities of a given situation.
In this first incident, out on Avey's mail route, I find
the conversation occurred substantially as narrated by
Williams. It would seem logical and probable to me that
if Williams went out on the route in his own car because
of a patron's complaint, he wculd first discuss the com-
plaiiit with Avey. This is what Williams said that he did.
Avey testified that Williams first mentioned the lateness
of the hour, calling Avey a "troublemaker" for not get-
ting the route done, and for filing a grievance. I do not
believe that Williams made that last remark and find that
Avey either imagined it, or manufactured it to improve
his own case.
The next incident allegedly occurred on August 3 in
the "swing" room.6
Avey testified that he met there
with Waite and Williams. According to Avey, Williams
told the two employees that they were "messing up" his
office because they had filed "this grievance" and that
"
dliams added that he saw the irate patron and later gave him fiur
scre',s tio fix the slot They heard no more about it
'i T his swas a room in the post, office containing chairs, a table. and em-
ployee lockers, used frequently in this case for meretings
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SERVICE
they "were going to pay for that grievance if we filed."
Aside from the fact that this statement is self-contradic-
tory, either the grievance had been filed or it had not
been filed, Avey went on to say that Williams told him
that a carrier was going to be suspended. Avey told him
that he was not experienced in that kind of thing, to
which Williams advised him to call Norbert
Dom-
browski, and that Dombrowski was a "good union man."
It seems to me wholly inconsistent for Williams, in the
same conversation, at the same time, to threaten employ-
ees that they would "pay" for filing a grievance, and to
advise one of these same employees to seek outside union
help in what could only be another grievance based on
the upcoming suspension.
Therefore, despite the fact that Williams did not testify
on this incident, I find that there was no threat to em-
ployees because of their filing a grievance.7
As the result of Williams' suggestion, Avey did call
Dombrowski and the latter agreed to come to Matteson
on August 5, 1977.
Dombrowski testified that he met with Avey and Wil-
liams on that day, but Williams informed them that the
employee to be suspended was a clerk, not a carrier.
Then, according to Dombrowski, Williams welnt on to
describe Avey and Waite as troublemakers: that he was
sorry that he ever talked them into coming to Matteson:
and that Avey was an agitator.
Neither Avey and Waite, nor Williams was asked any
questions about this meeting. I find, then, that it oc-
curred as testified to by Dombrowski, but I cannot read
any significance into the union representative's bold and
conclusionary assertions.
Avey then testified about a meeting on the next day,
December 6, 1977, attended by Waite and himself, and
also by Williams and a carrier named Joe Schmidt, who
was an acting supervisor. Williams had called the meet-
ing, and opened it by saying that they were playing
games with him. They had been filing grievances and
"had bad work performances." He asked why they were
doing this to him because they were in his office, and
"we were as close to heaven as we could get." Williams
added that they were under a special set of rules. Avey
asked why, and Williams merely told Schmidt to be es-
pecially careful of everything they did and to write
down a record of their mistakes.
No one else testified about this incident. Here, again,
the addition of the reference to filing of grievances tends
to convert a session devoted to bad work performance,
and an indication from Williams to the acting supervisor
to keep close watch on these employees, into a further
manifestation of hostility and animus. However, based on
my observation of Avey, as noted above, I do not credit
his testimony that Williams mentioned the filing of griev-
ances in this meeting. 9
7 I note also that Walte did not testify otn this matter
From m obhser'vation of DombroAski ais a witness. I found him tIo he
a vigorou s and assertiave person It Is unlilkelS Ithat he u,ould ha', let sluch
remarks pas, u lhonul cimmentl
or ramptfiiaition
I further note that my observatliotn of both Avey and W'aitc and the
other evidence in this case. sho's
that Ihey are a'id and 'o.ala defender'
of Iheir perceived rights It is hard, elen impossible feor m
to hchbelie'
that Avey and Waite 'at silent and uncomplaining through So mans of
these incidents Thi
s also cnitrlbhule, to m)
findinlg
hhl Ae. wasi
.
not a
On October 15, 1977, Avey testified on another meet-
ing between himself and Williams concerning a griev-
ance filed as a result of Waite's suspension.10 Avey testi-
fied that they discussed that, then went on to discuss a
fire marshall's report, and the cleanliness of the office. In
the course of this conversation Williams said to Avey
that he should be more concerned about safety and
cleanliness.
It was never made clear in this record what the re-
sponsibilitvy of carriers were in safety matters or in keep-
tig the office clean. Thus I can draw no conclusions
from this conversation, which was not mentioned by
Williams, except that there is no indication of hostility or
animus toward Avey's union activities.
On November 22, 1977, there was a labor management
meeting at the Matteson post office. Dombrowski testi-
fied that he attended, together with Avey, Williams, and
Supervisor Jack Laging. Dombrowski quoted Williams
as saying that Avey and Waite were troublemakers, and
that before they arrived at the Matteson Post Office he
had never had any trouble with the Union. Then, ac-
cording to Dombrowski, Williams launched into a 20-
minute exposition on problems with the toilets in the
men's room. At the end of this, Dombrowski said that he
informed Williams that he had "diarrhea of the mouth."
Williams then said that he was going to report Dom-
browvski
for improper and abusive language.
Dom-
browski replied that it was his right. but, as far as he was
concerned, the meeting was over.
Asey testified about the same meeting, but he stated
that the supervisor present was Joe Schmidt. Avey
agreed with Dombrowski that there was talk about the
cleanliness of the post office, but his version of Williams'
comments was that the latter said bringing Avey and
Waite to Matteson was the second biggest mistake of his
life, and that Avey and Waite were "clowns." Dom-
browski finally said that Williams had a big mouth, at
which point Williams "kicked" them out and said, "this
is over." Then, according to Avey, Williams asked
Schmidt whether Avey had permission to leave his route
and, on being informed that he did not, told Avey that
he faced disciplinary action. Avey then shouted, "Why
don't you give me a letter of warning now?"
There was more testimony on this meeting from
Donna Allen, a clerk and sometimes acting supervisor.
She recalled the talk about the cleanliness of the post
office, and that Williams told Avey to do something
about making the post office a little cleaner, but she
denied that he called Avey a clown. Williams did not
testify about this meeting.
This confused and contradictory testimony does little
to support the General Counsel's assertion that Williams
was engaged in a campaign against Avey motivated by
hostility and animus. Where the General Counsel's two
witnesses cannot agree on who was at the meeting. what
credible ',itlnes
I11 nl,
less there i, a, much left un.a3ld a', spokeil il
AcN', rcplrts t1'
hi', encounler',
ilth w'illlnsam
"' Ihlis Ats nlot fIlrlltcr e.kplailncd in the record. but il the noIlet
of
rent'.a Ic ltter to [
etc i' I NL cmher Itr
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pelided Il ()tII h r 1'77 fit r "ftailure to folitos',
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was said on the critical issue of animus, and how the
meeting concluded, I cannot and will not find that
animus has been established. Daniels' testimony, brief as
it was on this meeting, does not add much except to con-
firm that Williams was concerned about the cleanliness
of the post office. I have found Daniels to be a credible
witness in her testimony about other events in this case,
and I find that Williams did not call Avey a clowsn.
Other than that, I find that the testimony of Avey or
Dombrowski is insufficiently reliable or credible to allow
any findings of animus or hostility.
On December 12, 1977, Avey testified that he met
with Williams to discuss grievances dealing with carrier
timecards, vehicle safety, the cleanliness of the post
office, and nonpayment to Avey for a labor-management
meeting. When Avey came into Williams' office, WVil-
liams asked him if he had called a union election on the
clock in the post office. Avey replied that it w\as none of
Williams' business. Williams then said that he would in-
vestigate the matter and if it turned out to be true, he
promised that he would do something about it.
They then began to discuss the first grievance and
Williams interrupted to say that he had a note from a su-
pervisor that Avey had failed to carry a route out on
December 9. Williams then said that he had Avey now\,
and that he had been waiting for him to do something
like that. Avey asked if he would listen to his side of the
story, but Williams said he would but it would not make
any difference. They went on to discuss the grievances,
which were all denied by Williams. Williams did not tes-
tify on this incident.
Here again, while I find Avey's testimony thoroughly
unreliable, I note two things about this account: first, the
rude and impertinent reply made by Avey to Williams'
legitimate request on the use of Postal Service time and
premises for a union election; and second, the fact that
so many facts or alleged facts are not followed through
in further testimony by Avey or any one else and just
disappear after being mentioned once. In this instance
there was no further testimony either on the union elec-
tion or the alleged failure to carry a route on December
9. This further reinforces my belief that many, if not all,
of these incidents were mere figments of Avey's imagina-
tion, perhaps the result of his own evident hostility
toward Williams.
On December 15, another labor management meeting
was held at Matteson. All the carriers and clerks attend-
ed this meeting which was chaired by Williams. The
agenda for these meetings were prepared by representa-
tives of the two unions which represented these two
groups. Avey had prepared the agenda for the carriers
and had given it to Williams the day before.
Avey testified that Williams asked each carrier wheth-
er they had seen the agenda and each replied that he had
not. Williams then said to Avey, "See what a bad ste-
ward12
you are, you didn't show this agenda around, I
have to assume that these are your gripes and not
theirs." According to Avey, that was "where it ended"
and they went on to discuss the items on the agenda.
i
Or a "clog" as relaled in the record
2 Certain errors in the Iranscripl are herebhy noed and torrctledd
Waite testified that Williams asked Avey why Bobby
Moyer, another carrier, did not have a voice in the union
election. Then Avey and Moyer were arguing about
whether Moyer was absent on some day, presumably the
date of the election. Waite went on to say that Williams
then asked all the carriers if they had seen the agenda,
and they all said they had not. Williams then said that he
had to believe all the gripes were John Avey's gripes.
Donna Daniels, after some difficulty in remembering
which meeting she was being asked about, finally testi-
fied that Williams had a list at the meeting and that he
proceeded to go down the list. He was stopped by
Moyer who w anted to know where the list came from.
Williams said it came from their union representative.
Moyer asked who his union representative was and Wil-
liams replied that John Avey was the union steward and
Waite was the alternate. Moyer then said that he did not
vote for Avey as his representative, that he did not know
about the agenda, and that Avey should have brought it
to the other carriers first. Joe Schmidt l: said that he did
not need or want Avey to represent him. He knew noth-
ing about his list and felt that it should have been
brought to the other carriers first. Schmidt then left the
meeting.
Williams stated that he began to go through the carri-
ers' agenda and had reached the third item when Moyer
asked where he got the list. Williams said it was given to
him by the union representative. Moyer said that he
knew nothing about the union representative, and Wil-
liams identified Avey and Waite as the union representa-
tives and that they had given him the list. Both Williams
and Daniels denied that he said anything about the qual-
ity of Avey's stewardship.
All of the witnesses agreed that, after the initial ex-
change, Williams went on to discuss all of the items on
the list.
I credit the versions of this meeting given by Williams
and Daniels. While Avey's version of Williams' remarks
about him was corroborated by Waite, I note that, even
here, Waite's story mentions an argument with Moyer
which Avey omitted. That reference to the argument
tends to corroborate Daniels and Williams more than
Avey. Further, even Waite did not corroborate Avey's
statement that Williams referred to Avey as a bad ste-
ward. 4
On December 28, 1977, Avey had a meeting with Wil-
liams to discuss grievances and also to tell him that
Dombrowski could not be at a labor-management meet-
ing scheduled for December 31. Williams said there had
been a labor-management
meeting on December 24.
Avey said he did not know about it, and Williams re-
plied that he had been there; that the clerks and mainte-
nrance union had been there; and why Avey had not been
there. Avey said that he had not seen the notice and that
he was not designated for that task by the union presi-
dent. Williams said that showed what a bad union stc-
i
tix thim tle
Schrinidt, previously ideitificd
is an as
a
cting supervisor,
was apparently hback as a cairrier again
'I
E ell thiough Ac
' perfirnlarlc
as a sIeward co<uld legil mately y e
crilcitizcd for lnHot diwtuslig Ithe agelda with Ihe oilher carriers before the
miecting
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ward he was, that he did not even show up for meetings
that affected his membership.
At this point in his testimony. Avey began to ramble
and to talk about matters which may have concerned
him at this meeting or later. but did not appear to be tied
in or connected to the events of this case. For example,
Avcy began testifying about a grievance oil vacation. te
then stated:
The day before he told me that I had responsibil-
ities to see that the carriers had got their bids in on
Janluary 3rd. I told him that I would check it out
when I found that he was wrong. I found that he
didn't file it in the new contract.
After I filed the grievance he told me that he knew
what he had done was against the contract, but he
assumed that since I was he would give me the re-
sponsibility. He also said the carriers were telling
him that I was running things and not him. As far
as he was concerned I thought that I was the boss.
Avey continued in much the same vein, testifying on
this conversation:
At this time I filed the supervisor grievance t a and
he said that he had contacted all of the supervisors
to candidate for the job at that time. He told them
about my trouble making. He also told me that
since I had this union job I was not doing a fair
days work for a fair days pay. The trouble that I
was getting from them had just begun. I had done
what he said I would have been all right. tie said
there was still time to do wvhat he said.
Avey went on to say that Williams told him they were
going to have a father-son relationship with Williams as
the father and Avey the son. Avey then told him that he
was violating his rights, and asked Williams if he had
ever heard of the Bill of Rights. Williams replied that his
people had been fighting for it for 400 years.
Williams then told Avey that he faced further disci-
plinary action for leaving two first-class letters on De-
cember 24 and had "gone over a lawn" on that date. 6I
I have quoted from this testimony at length to show
the rambling, pointless, and disorganized nature of much
of Avey's testimony. It seems clear to me that Avey was
a sloppy and a careless worker. He admitted to an inabil-
ity to finish his routes on time. He was suspended on
January 7 for refusal to obey a direct order from Acting
Supervisor Joe Schmidt on December 9. Even though
that suspension was later overturned by an agreement be-
tween the Union and the post office, Avey did not deny
that he had disobeyed the order. This disrespectful atti-
tude toward Williams is evident from his own testimony
both before and after this incident on December 28,
1977. In these circumstances it is only natural and logical
that Williams should speak to Avey concerning his short-
comings. This explains the number of meetings the two
had, and the various threats of disciplinary action in
lb Concerning the allega;lion that ai person lias acting as ia carrier ;rld
a supervisor at Ihe sanle lime
1e This is another dead end in Avev's tesimnions
There is lno further
evidence on this allegetd threat
those meetings. Avey has attempted to convert these
meetings and threats into a campaign against his union
position and activity. It appears to me, however, that
Avey attempted throughout his employment at Matteson
to use his union office as a shield to cover his own defi-
ciencies as a letter carrier, then carried that intention into
his testimony in this hearing, inserting references to the
Union and his function as steward into conversations
which, in reality, were concerned with his work defi-
ciencies. Thus, I do not find any evidence of antiunion
motivation in this conversation of December 28, 1977.
After his return from his first suspension, on January
20. 1978, Avey testified about another conversation with
Williams. Avey stated that he attempted to file a griev-
ance concerning a special route check on one of the
routes. Williams refused to accept the grievance because
Avey was not the regular carrier on the route.7 Wil-
liams then told Avey that he had received a nine-page
letter from a patron concerning Avey's "bad mail deliv-
ery." Williams denied Avey's request to see the letter,
then said that he had to make a telephone call. Accord-
ing to Avey, "he called down to South Suburban, " I
would imagine, and he called Dombrowski a liar, that he
had filed vacation on the 6th of January." Avey went on
to say that Williams told him that he was going to call a
postmasters' meeting and was "going to take care of
Dombrowski with his tricks and antics." Williams then
went on to say that Avey was given a suspension to keep
his mouth shut and it obviously had not worked, adding
that he was going to cut the hours of the part-time flexi-
ble carriers because of Avey's union activities. Avey
then continued with a discussion about Bernard Cle-
mentc, later identified as another carrier in the Matteson
post office; someone named Conway, not otherwise iden-
tified; threats to beat up Avey; and an alleged statement
by Williams that he would not tolerate Avey's attitude
or activities. Williams denied several of these allegations.
Even allowing for the unsatisfactory state of the tran-
script at this point, this testimony demonstrates further
Avey's instability as a witness. I disregard the last por-
tion of this testimony, and do not credit the first part.
Avey attempted to file this grievance on January 21,
and Williams refused to take it at that time. It was filed
and denied on January 24, but, as with so many other in-
cidents in this case, there is no further evidence on w'hat
happened to the grievance, if ever one existed.
On January 26, 1978, there was a severe snowstorm in
the area and one carrier, Carole Hedges, was unable to
finish her route because of the snow and the failure of
her vehicle. She called the post office from her home
about 6 p.m. and was advised by Williams to secure the
remaining mail there for the night. According to Avey,
Hedges felt that she should be paid for the time she spent
in her home with the mail that night. She took this up
with Avey, and the two of them went to see Williams on
February 6. They discussed the grievance with him in an
? There sias no e'vidence as to whether Williams' refusal, if it in fact
happened.
alas justificd, or nril justified by Postal Service regulations or
practice
'I Soulh Suburhan is the name by which the parties referred to zhe
office v hich hald l
upersisory authority
over the Matteson post offi e
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inconclusive
fashion.
Williams finally,
according
to
Hedges, threatened her with discipline for coming in late
on the morning of January 27 and then turned to Avey
and said that he had had a lot of accidents, and he was
going to take action against him as well. Williams con-
cluded by saying that he would call South Suburban and
if they said to pay her, he would.
After this, according to Hedges' credible and undenied
testimony, Williams asked Avey to leave the room. He
then told Hedges that she was making a mistake keeping
Avey as steward. Williams did not deny any of this.
From this credible testimony by Hedges, disregarding
Avey's mainly unintelligible statements about the meet-
ing, I find that Williams did in fact react with threats
when pressed on a grievance, and, further, that he dis-
liked Avey as a steward. Whether these motives served
to spark the later actions against Avey and Waite is ques-
tionable, and will be discussed below.
Soon after that Avey and Williams had another meet-
ing or a telephone conversation. The record is not clear
on this. They talked about the Hedges' grievance, then
Williams went on to say that he would like to take off
his postmaster's badge and take Avey outside and teach
him a lesson. He said his wife had told him that Avey
was not worth it. Williams went on to say that his first
priority was to fire Avey.
I do not credit Avey's account of this meeting, which
was not denied by Williams, but apparently as a result of
the meeting the Union filed a charge with the Board on
February 14, 1978, in Case 13-CA-17289-P. As a result
of this charge, a meeting was held between union and
postal officials on March 23, 1978. No one testified as to
what was said at this meeting, but matters were resolved
by the recission of Avey's January suspension, the with-
drawal of Case 13-CA-17289-P, and a promise by the
post office that labor relations in Matteson would stabi-
lize in the future.
In fact matters seemed to settle down for a while.
Other than one grievance concerning Avey, and one in-
volving a letter of warning to Waite, both of which ap-
parently were amicably settled, nothing of consequence
occurred until June 1 9 7 8.19
Early in June, Supervisor Jack Laging notified Avey
that his government driver's license (SF-46) was to be
revoked as of June 15 because he had had nine accidents
in 3 years. Avey filed a grievance over this and also an-
other charge with the Board in Case 13-CA-17683-P on
June 5, 1978.
The grievance and the charge were settled after meet-
ings between Union and Postal officials.
In July 1978, Williams was removed as postmaster of
Matteson.2 0 He returned as postmaster in October 1978
and in November he had a meeting with Dombrowski.
The record does not reveal where this meeting was held,
or why, or who was present aside from Williams and
Dombrowski. Despite the fact that no proper foundation
19 Avey testified at length about a meeting with Jack Lagirg and Wil-
liams on June 6, 1978 His testimory on this meeting is so rambling, dis-
cursive, and at times incoherent, that I have rejected it as having no pro-
bative value
2o Williams testified that he was removed for poor management. He
stated that he did not feel that Avey was responsible for his removal
was laid, Dombrowski testified without objection that
during this meeting Williams referred to Avey and Waite
as "dummies" and "clowns" and that they did not know
how to represent the people at the Matteson post office.
Williams further said that as far as he was concerned
Avey would not process any grievances in that post
office, and he would not listen to any grievance that
Avey processed or tried to process. Both Williams and
Donna Daniels denied that he had ever referred to Avey
and Waite as "dummies" or "clowns," although there is
no evidence that Daniels attended that particular meeting
in November.
I have generally credited Williams throughout this
case. However, I have previously found Dombrowski to
be a credible witness. In this instance I find that Williams
said the things attributed to him by Dombrowski but be-
cause of the lack of foundation for the conversation, and
the failure of the record to show the context in which
the remarks were made, the impact of these remarks is
slight. All of the evidence shows that Avey and Waite,
particularly Avey, were not good employees. Avey was
a chronic user of overtime, a carrier whose careless
habits had by this time produced at least two complaints
from patrons. His driver's license had been suspended for
nine accidents in a 3-year period. 2" Avey's impudence to
and disrespect for his superior is shown by Avey's own
testimony. Waite, too, had work problems. He had been
suspended in October 1977 for failure to follow instruc-
tions and for threatening a supervisor.
In the absence of any evidence as to how these stew-
ards actually framed and presented grievances, I think it
is permissible to infer that Williams' wrath was directed
toward the benefit of employees in receiving adequate
representation, rather than in hostility toward the repre-
sentation process itself.
In January 31, 1979, according to testimony of Avey
and Waite, Avey asked Williams to discuss some union
business with him and Williams agreed. They then met
with Waite and Clemente, another carrier. The conversa-
tion began with a discussion about vacation scheduling.
Williams told the employees that the bids for vacations
had to be in that day. At this point Avey requested per-
mission to call Dombrowski, and it was granted. In the
telephone conversation which followed, Dombrowski
told Avey that a previous suspension of Clemente had
been reduced to 2 days. After that Avey told Clemente
the good news. Williams then told Avey that he had
nothing to do with the reduction of the suspension, that
he himself had called South Suburban and had it re-
duced. He then said that if Avey was a good steward the
suspension never would have happened. According to
Waite, Avey then asked why he had received a suspen-
sion, and Williams answered that that was a special sus-
pension. Williams concluded by saying that Avey was
more worried about vacation bids than defending a carri-
er.
Assuming that this incident happened, there is no evi-
dence that what Williams said was not true. There was
no development of the history of Clemente's suspension,
:' The suspension, to be sure, was lifted by agreement as noted above,
but the fact of the accidents 'was undenied
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nor of the processing of the grievance which led to a re-
duction of that suspension. If Avey's work record is re-
flective in any way of his functioning as a steward, Wil-
liams could very well be led to criticize Avey's steward-
ship.
To conclude this summary of background evidence, I
do not believe that the General Counsel has established
by a preponderance of the credible evidence that Wil-
liams' dealings with Avey were motivated to any great
extent by antiunion hostility or animus toward Avey's
union activities. While the usual marketplace forces are
not operative in an organization like the Postal Service,
there were pressures on Williams to run his office under
guidelines and standards imposed from above. Williams
must have felt these pressures keenly, particularly after
he was removed from his job for failure to meet those
standards. He must likewise have felt pressures from his
staff to conform to contractual standards in labor rela-
tions. Avey certainly aggressively and continually ap-
plied such pressure by the filing of grievances and the
pursuit of employee complaints. But given all the credi-
ble evidence, and in view of mv discrediting of Avey's
testimony, I cannot find that this activity was the princi-
pal cause of Williams' words or actions.
B. .. re 's Suspensionl.
On May 3, apparently in 1978, Avey hurt his knee.
The record does not show whether this happened on or
off the job, or what type of injury it was, or how severe,
or whether he was out of work for any period of time.
The only evidence is Avey's statement that he was in-
jured, and that he later found "it was a form of arthri-
tis." He visited a doctor, as he put it, 15 or 20 times.
During the summer of 1978, on August 7, W. B.
Caton, who was officer in charge at Matteson,22 ordered
Avey to report to a clinic chosen by the Postal Service
to be examined to determine his fitness for duty. The re-
sults of this examination do not appear in the record.
However, Avey must have been required to take another
examination because there is a report in the record from
a Dr. Smit, dated December 26, 1978, indicating that
Avey was examined on that day. There are also reports
on X-rays dated December 21, 1978. attributed on their
face to fitness for duty examinations.2 3
Dr. Smit's report concluded that Avey was fit for duty
and recommended that he "work up to his long route
gradually and if there is any evidence of knee discomfort
again that this be treated very early."
The record does not reveal what happened when these
reports reached the Matteson post office, but Avey re-
turned to his own doctor on January 12, 1979, and ob-
tained a report which contained two parts. The first
stated that he could return to light duty;24 that he could
stand or walk for I hour; that he could not lift more than
35 pounds; and that he could "have a driving route."
The second part of the report stated that "Mr. John
Avey can return to full duty 2/28/79." Avey testified
:2 This was during Ihe tinle W5illhams had been remosed a',s postmaler
2a The X-ras report noited "no signific;int ;ahnormllliecs ;re e ldnlt on
the views obtained
24 The record does not indicate
he thehr he had been otni ofr ,ork
at
Ihat time
that he showed the first part only to Debra Rogers on
January 13. 1979. Rogers is not otherwise identified in
the record.
During the period of his injury, Avey testified that he
was on light duty. He would distribute mail and place
mail, in order, for route carriers. Then, on February I he
was assigned to a walking route. He protested to Wil-
liams that his doctor's instructions said he could only
walk for 1 hour. Williams threatened to suspend him, but
then assigned him to a driving route.
On February 2. Avey was again assigned to a walking
route by Supervisor Laging, but, after again protesting,
he was reassigned to a driving route.
On February 3, Williams called a meeting of the carri-
ers in the post office. Waite testified that Williams com-
plained that he had been carrying mail until 10 p.m. the
night before. He continued complaining about the clerks
and carriers, and blamed Laging for being too lax with
the carriers. Williams said that because of Laging and
the carriers in the office he had almost lost his job and it
was not going to happen again. He pointed at Avey and
said that he caused all the trouble in the office, and that
if he got rid of Avey things would run smoothly in the
office again.
Avey testified in much the same view except that he
testified that Williams said to Laging at the meeting that
Avey was the main source of opposition and "once he
got rid of him the carriers would follow the line."
\Williams did not recall the meeting clearly, but did
state that he told Laging that it was not his policy to
give Avey preferential treatment.
I do not credit Avey's version of Williams' remarks,
and, in this case, I find that Waite fairly described the
meeting. There is no question that in a small office the
fact that one employee is on light duty shifts the burden
to others. If, as in this instance, another carrier does not
finish his route, that burden increases. This conversation
further points up Williams' frustration and aggravation
with his supervisor, and with Avey, because, I believe,
of work deficiencies rather than union activities.
Later that day Avey testified that he had a meeting
with Williams. According to Avey, Williams called him
a liar because the doctor's report showed he had some-
thing different. He showed Avey a doctor's report, pre-
sumably the one ordered by the Postal Service, and said
he would put him on a route which would damage his
"name" 25
and put him on light duty again. Then Wil-
liams would transfer Avey to South Suburban, or to the
Park Forest office.
Waite testified that he heard part of this conversation
in which Williams said he was going to transfer Avey to
South Suburban as a clerk, or to Park Forest. Avey then
replied that Williams had better look at the National
agreement about transferring stewards.
Williams stated that Laging was present at the meeting
with Avey during which Williams told Avey that he had
received a report from the Postal Service doctor that
Avey could be moved up to a long route. Avey said he
had contrary medical information. They then discussed
2' Thi',
i ohioun',ly a miquolte From the cintexl Ihi', word prohalls
otmluid rlad "knee"
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transfer. Williams had instructions from South Suburban
to send people on light duty to that office or to Park
Forest. Thus, he told Avey that if he could not perform,
he would be transferred to one of these places.
in this incident I credit Williams' testimony as cor-
roborated to some extent by Waite, and I tdo not credit
Avey. It is evident from the prior meeting that day that
Williams was concerned about productivity, and, having
received the Postal Service doctor's report he obviously
was concerned about the possibility of malingering by
Avey. 2i There is nothing in this shos aig union animus
or hostility.
On February 9 Avey was again assigned to a walking
route. Avey again protested to Laging. Laging told hin
that Williams had said that if Avey refused to carry the
route they would discharge him. Avey testified that he
said that lie would not carry past I hour per his doctor's
instructions and asked if he should bring the mail back.
Laging said yes. Avey then stated that he took the mail
out and delivered it for I hour and then ciame back "per
my supervisor's instructions.
"
Williams testified that uhen lie arrived at the post
office that morning L aging told him that Avey had said
he would only walk 1 hour. About 45 or 55 minutes later
Avey came back into the post office, unloaded the mail
from his vehicle, and brought it in. Hc indicated that he
had walked his hour and that was all lie was going to do.
Williams then asked him what lie meant. lie said that
Avey was a postal employee, a carrier, and that it %was
his job to carry mail. H-l then directed Avey to go back
out on the route and to walk I hour, then rest for 10 or
15 minutes, then walk another hour. Avey said he wias
going to do what his doctor instructed him to do. Wil-
liams and Laging then reloaded the mail in Avey's vehi-
cle, and waited for other carriers to return from their
routes to deliver it.
Williams testified that he was aware of the I-hour re-
striction given by Avey's doctor, but pointed out that
Avey was already violating that by casing mail inside the
post office for 2 to 2-1/2 hours a day. Williams was also
aware of the Postal Service doctor's recommendation
that Avey work up to a route gradually. He also noted
that Avey gave no signs that his knee was hurting or
giving him problems.
I credit Williams' version of this incident. His story
was consistent with his demeanor on the witness stand,
and shows a reasonable approach to Avey's problem in
the light of the Postal Service doctor's report and the
instructions he had on dealing with light duty employees.
Avey's actions in relying inflexibly on the I-hour limita-
tion and concealing his doctor's further instruction that
he could return to full duty on February 28 show a sly
and calculating character, which I found fully borne out
in my observation of his demeanor while he was testify-
ing.
z" I am unqualified lo evaluate the medical aspects of these reports.
but I view it as significant that Avey had two parts to the report from his
own doctor, onte saying he could stand or walk I hour. and tile other that
he could return to full dutny ou IFebruary 28 It is illogical Ihat an emrn
ployee could be so restricted to 1 hour up to Febhruar
28, lland
then go
immediately to full duty It is signlificanl
alsot tha Are
tesiliced that lie
showed only the first part of this report to tihe Postal Sctricre ()Obh
iluSl
he felt it was in his interest io coencltl
the other parlt
O()n February 10, 1979, Waite testified that he, Avey,
Williams, and Lagirg had a meeting. While this testimo-
rny. so much like the other testimony, is imprecise and
conclusionary, it seems apparent that this meeting arose
out of Asey's refusal to finish his route on the day
before. Williams pointed out the burden of work which
had shifted to other carriers, then went on to discuss
problems with timecards, telling Donna Daniels, who
had come in to the meeting, and asked her to make out a
statement as to why the timecards were late. Williams
also told Laging to tell the carriers that if the paychecks
were late it was Avey's fault.
Williams also mentioned that he had all "good carriers
in the office" except Avey. Waite spoke up in defense of
Avey. Williams then said that Waite had threatened him
twice and he was going to get him. Waite replied,
"Don't let the air between us scare you," and Avey
added, "He ain't worth it." No one else testified about
this meeting.
Accepting Waite's account as true, it seems to me to
establish two facts at that point in time: first, that Wil-
liams' feelings toward Waite were based on threats
which Waite had made to him: and, second, the disre-
spectful and contemptuous attitude displayed in the final
exchange betweeil Waite, Avey, and Williams.
Otn February 22, 1979, Avey was given a 14-day sus-
pension for disobeying a direct order to carry the mail
on February 9. The suspension was made the subject of a
grievanice which proceeded through the grievance pro-
cedure until April 18, 1980, when an arbitrator ordered
the suspension removed and backpay awarded to Avey.
Meanwhile, sometime in February, Dombrowski testi-
fied that there was a meeting at the Matteson post office.
In attendance were Dombrowski, Avey, Williams, and
Donna Daniels. The subject matter of the meeting was
not revealed, but in view of the timing it may well have
concerned the suspension of Avey. Dombrowski merely
stated, with no background or context, that Williams said
that Avey and Waite were "dummies" and did not know
how to process grievances. He referred to Avey as a
"turkey"
and a "clow n." Williams and Daniels denied
that he made those statements, and Avey did not testify
on this meeting.
In the circumstances under which this testimony was
elicited I think Dombrowski was confusing this meeting
with the November meeting he also testified about. I
credit Williams and Daniels and find that the statements
'were not made at that meeting.
Dombrowski testified that he then went to Williams'
supervisors, who advised him to go to the "labor board."
He then filed a charge with the Board on March 13,
1979, in Case 13-CA-18531 -P.27
On February 17, 1979, Avey was again assigned to a
walking route. He complained to Williams, again citing
his doctor's instructions.
Williams told him that
he
should do the route and if he did not he would be sus-
pended. Avey again mentioned the doctor's instructions
and Williams told him he had better be careful about his
job because if he did not have the job he would not be
I) lnhrossskl lestified tlhir t le charge s as later wilt"hdraw .
I note.
Ilhoi- .tr,
the;i t le charge did
lot nllliloll
Av.es's stispeliuOll ,s
UNITED STATES POSTAL SERVICE
the union steward. Avey then went out, walked I hour.
and returned.
A meeting dealing with this incident was held on Feb-
ruary 26 in the swing room with Avey, Laging, and Wil-
liams present. Williams told Avey he was going to re-
ceive a suspension, and he went on, according to Avey,
to tell him that he felt once he "got three suspensions on
me that he could fire me. All he wanted was me out of
his hair."
Avey filed a grievance based on this suspension. An
agreement between the Union and the Postal Service re-
duced this suspension from 14 to 7 days.
To summarize my findings on these incidents, I find
that Williams had reasonable cause, based on the Postal
Service doctor's report of December 1978, to conclude
that Avey could return to full duty, albeit gradually.
Avey's testimony gives no clue as to his actual physical
condition, but his failure to mention his own doctor's
report allowing him to return to full duty on February
28, and his inflexible insistence that he would walk only
I hour a day, convince me that he was capable of doing
more than that. He would not follow Williams' sugges-
tion to walk for an hour, their rest, then walk again.
Considering also Avey's admittedly bad work perform-
ance, and the absence of any antiunion considerations in
any of the testimony on these incidents. I conclude that
Williams' orders were reasonable and legitimate, and
Avey's refusals were willfully intended to avoid the ar-
duous task of walking a route.
C. ihe .laY 25,. 1979, .NMeeutig
We come now to the matters alleged as violations of
law in the amended complaint. The first series of alleged
violations arise out of a meeting of all employees of the
Matteson post office on Mlay 25, 1979, presided over by
Williams.
Williams was primarily concerned with insubordina-
tion in the post office. According to Avey's version of
the meeting, Williams said that he was tired of having
people question his orders and tired of questions and
complaints. He said that they were to go to their imme-
diate supervisor and not to him. He told the employees
about an instance where Carole Hedges had gone to her
union steward about a form and added that employees
were to go to him first then to the union steward. There
was some discussion about Avey taking a 10-minute
break and Williams informed him that the breaks were
not eliminated and that Avey would get everything that
was coming to him. Avey asked another question about
signing up an employee for the Union. Williams replied
that he could not sign up the employee on the premises
but should do it at home. Williams added that there
should be no union business on the clock and that Avey's
union job was nonproductive as far as he was concerned.
Further, Williams told Avey that he liked to file labor
charges and that he would take comments from meetings
and other sources and put them into Avey's version of
the truth. He called A'vey a "cancer" and added that
when "you had a cancer you cut it out." Avey asked if
that was a threat and Williams answecred that he could
figure it any way he wanted. Avey then said he figured
it the way it was intended. and Williamrs asked if he w\as
through making smart remarks. Avey said yes, the ex-
change ended, and they went on to discuss other matters.
Waite's description differs in some respects
from
Avey's. In the Carole Hedges matter, Waite said that
Williams remarked that Hedges had not followed his
instructions on a form and had gone to the union ste-
ward. Waite did not corroborate Avey's statement that
Williams said they were to go to him first before the
union steward. Waite included more detail about the in-
subordination issue, quoting Williams as saying people
were kicking stools and jeeps and talking back to him,
then talking about misuse of Postal Service jeeps, dan-
gerous driving, and illegal parking. Waite's testimony
agreed with Avey's on the question of signing up em-
ployees, and that Williams had said they had to do union
business off the clock.
Significantly, Waite did not agree with Avey about the
labor board charges. Waite recalled that Williams said
that Avey was taking comments from these meetings and
going to the Union and telling lies about him. Waite did
corroborate Avey's recollection of the exchange between
Avey and Williams about "cancer."
Carole Hedges testified that Williams had left a note
on her timecard about filling out form 1564A,2 ' and that
if she had any questions she should have gone to him
and not to John Avey. He went on to talk about over-
time and curtailing of mail, adding that there was to be
no union business while on the clock. Williams also said
that Avey was the "main blocking efficiency' of the post
office, in that he was a cancer and that as his daddy
always told him, you cut cancer out."
Cheryl Cousins, called as a witness by Respondent, did
not hear Williams threaten employees with discipline if
they went to the union steward. She said that Williams
did not mention Avey, or anything about signing her up
for the Union. Her recollection of the meeting was that
they talked about overtime, curtailment of mail, forms
and how to use them.
Donna Daniels did not have too firm a memory of this
meeting, but did indicate that there was discussion about
overtime and "ten thousand and one things." She also
testified that she never heard Williams refer to Avey as a
"cancer."
Williams stated that his agenda for this meeting con-
cerned excessive overtime, sick leave, incorrect data on
forms concerning deliveries, work hours, and production
rates. He stated that he also discussed uniforms, driving
habits, and employees leaving duty assignments without
going to their supervisor. He told the employees that
under no circumstances were they to leave their duty as-
signments without seeing their supervisor unless there
was an emergency.
Williams denied mentioning the Union. or Avey's effi-
ciency. or "cancer."
In this incident I credit the testimony of Williams.
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very little faith in the testimony of Avey and Waite.
Even so, Waite's version differs from Avey's in regard to
the necessity to go to Williams before seeing the union
steward, and whether Williams referred to the Board or
the Union. Hedges' version differs also, not mentioning
the insubordination, and agreeing with the union business
off the clock, and the "cancer" incident, although with
respect to the latter remark Hedges remembered it differ-
ently from Avey.
Thus, I do not find that the General Counsel has es-
tablished by a preponderance of the credible evidence
that Respondent, through Williams, instructed its em-
ployees not to go to a union steward without prior per-
mission from a supervisor; threatened employees with
discipline if they did so ::'
instructed its employees not to
engage in union activity while on the clock; or threat-
ened Avey with discharge because of his union activities
or because he had given testimony to agents of the
Board.
D. The May 30 and 31 Meetings
On May 30, 1979, Williams called Avey into a meeting
with himself and Donna Daniels, who was acting as a su-
pervisor. Avey testified that Williams said he ,was angry
because Avey had called in twice during the previous
week to say that he would be late finishing his route, and
that he was thinking of firing Avey or giving him sepa-
ration papers. Daniels asked how Avey could tell at
"1:15" if he could not finish on time and Williams then
said to her to "be careful of this man because he likes to
file labor charges."
Williams remembered
a discussion
with Avey and
Daniels about Avey informing management when he felt
he could not go out and deliver a route in 8 hours. He
denied that he said anything about the Board.
Donna Daniels placed this meeting on May 31, but she
testified credibly that she had a discussion in the swing
room with Avey, in Williams' presence, about how Avey
could tell at 9 a.m. that he could not finish his route on
time. Avey replied that he was a carrier and he could
tell.
I credit the version told by Williams and Daniels and
do not credit Avey's story.:l2
On May 31 Avey testified that Williams called him
into his office. He said that a clerk had told him that
Avey had been talking for 22 minutes without working.
According to Avcy, Williams then said he had used stool
pigeons too. Avey denied the charge, and Williams re-
plied that he had his witnesses and that he was going to
fire Avey. Williams went on to say that Avey had been
making malicious and untrue statements to the Board.
and all he needed was three suspensions and Avey would
be fired and he did not care if the Union got Avey's job
back or not. He just wanted Avey off of his hands. and
wanted the office to return to normal. Williams also said
:
There was
a no csidyenle Ihat Ihis Aas doine, c'en if I scre to credil
Ihe G(eneral Counsel's wilincsses
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lils regard that in the Inltice iof remosal given to A ,ac in
December 19, 197q. Ihere is reference Iio a "l)efermcnl
itf Step Inrcrase
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that he had learned something in the last Board charge,
that all he had to do was deny everything, especially the
meetings between the two of them.
Williams did not testify about the meeting, but, con-
sistently with my prior findings herein, I do not credit
Avey's testimony beyond the fact that Williams may
have accused him of talking instead of working.
Thus, I do not find that Respondent violated the Act
in these two conversations on May 30 and 31. 3 3
E. The October and November Incidents
In October 1979, the post office at Matteson posted
some regular routes for bids. There was some problem
whether the posting was in accordance with the local
agreement. : 4 Avey and Williams had a discussion about
this in the swing room on October 25. 1979. According
to Avey, Williams said that he had received a call from
South Suburban informing him that Dombrowski was
questioning this posting. Williams asked Avey if he knew
anything about it and Avey said he did not. Williams
then asked if Avey had made a telephone call and Avey
responded that it was none of his business. Williams then
said that if Avey had a grievance he was supposed to go
to his immediate supervisor as stated in the National
agreement instead of Dombrowski. Avey said there was
no grievance. Williams then told Avey that he had not
gone through the chain of command and that he would
receive a suspension. There was some further discussion
about the posting of regular routes and the meeting
ended.
Again Williams did not testify concerning this meet-
ing, but, again, I do not credit Avey's version of what
happened and I find no violation of the Act in this inci-
dent.
On October 26 there was a meeting of all the employ-
ees with Williams. Avey's version had Williams announc-
ing at the outset that he had a tape recorder, that he was
going to record the meeting for his own protection, and
"if anyone said anything that wasn't on this tape he
would know about it." Williams then said that a carrier
had called Dombrowski and questioned the notices he
had posted. He told the employees that they were not to
contact their union president, either carriers or clerks,
adding that they were to go through their immediate su-
pervisor first, not to Dombrowski, who was not their su-
pervisor.
Waite's version of this meeting accorded with Avey's
on the tape recorder, although Waite quoted Williams as
saying to them that if they did not want to be heard to
say nothing. Waite then testified that Williams told the
employees they could not go to the union president
without going to Williams or to a supervisor. Waite said
that Williams said that employees were going to Dom-
browski and telling lies about him and that he was
deeply hurt by this.
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Anothetr allegatiin ill Ihe aitriided coniplaillt iltetltions another vio-
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Carole Hedges testified about this meeting, but her ac-
count is somewhat different. She mentioned the tape re-
corder, but said that Williams said he was wearing it to
protect himself in case anyone wanted to go to the
Union and say something that was not true. Hedges men-
tioned that Williams said they were not to run to the
Union every time they had a problem, but to ask him.
Cheryl Cousins testified that she was at the meeting
and could not remember much of what occurred. She
did say that Williams could have told employees not to
contact the union president, but to go to their supervisor.
Williams testified that he did say that "it seems like
when he had one of these meetings, I need a tape record-
er so Mr. Avey would not misquote me incorrectly." He
said that he discussed overtime, poor performance, uni-
forms, vehicle safety, proper driving, and forms used for
customer complaints. He did not deny, but was not
asked, about the statement that he told employees they
had to see their supervisor before going to see the union
president.
I do not credit the version of this meeting given by
Avey and Waite. Further I do not credit Carole Hedges'
testimony, in this instance, based primarily on my obser-
vation of her demeanor while testifying. Even if I were
to credit Hedges, her version of Williams' comment, that
employees "were not to run to the Union every time we
have a problem, we are supposed to ask Mr. Williams,"
does not impress me as a prohibition against seeking as-
sistance from the Union. I do not find a violation of law
in this meeting.
Along the same line as this October 26 incident, Avey
testified that at a meeting called on November 29, 1979,
to discuss preparations for the Christmas rush, Williams
told the employees that he had "a steward problem in
that office," and that the steward did not understand the
right of permission in the contract.
The only other testimony on this incident is that of
Cheryl Cousins, but her memory of it is not reliable.
However, I cannot rely on Avey's unsupported testimo-
ny, and I do not find that this incident happened as he
stated.
F. Waite's Discharge
In my findings and conclusions on the discharge of
Wayne Waite, I have relied on the credible testimony of
Bobbie Williams and Donna Daniels, and not on the tes-
timony of Waite and Avey.
The incident which led to the discharge occurred on
the morning of November 15, 1979. Daniels was a tem-
porary supervisor that day and she observed some mail
in a container next to where Waite was casing mail for
his route.:'" The mail in question consisted of circulars.
Daniels said she would like him to carry that mail. Waite
ignored her. She came closer to him and repeated the re-
quest, pointing to the mail. He then turned to her and
said, "the goddamn regular don't do it and I'm not doing
it." Daniels turned and walked away.
Later that day she called Williams, who was not in the
office, and told him to get someone else for the supervi-
:s TIhe mail wa,
in a collnainer
referred
Io as a "luhb
f flat,," also in
Ihe record a, a "tub if glass "
sor's job because she did not like being cursed at. He
asked her what had happened and she told him. Williams
told her to calm down.
The next morning Williams asked Daniels and Waite
to come into the swing room. Waite asked if he could
have union representation and Williams said "of course."
Waite then called to Avey, who joined them. Williams
and Waite sat down at a table in the swing room while
Daniels and Avey remained standing. Williams asked
Waite to read an article in the carrier handbook, then
asked Waite if his supervisor had instructed him to carry
out all the mail the day before. Waite said yes. Williams
then asked if he had done it. Waite started to give an ex-
planation but Williams cut him off, saying that all he
wanted was a yes or no answer. Waite then said no. Wil-
liams said that the meeting was over. Waite then said
that he had something to say but Williams repeated that
the meeting was over. Waite then got red in the face,
pointed at Williams, and said that he had something to
say, and that he "had a right." Waite began to get out of
his chair and was then restrained by Avey who came
over to him, put his hands on his shoulders, and
screamed at him to shut up. At the same time Williams
was shouting at Waite, asking if he was threatening him,
or meant to harm him. Waite attempted again and again
to rise from the chair but he was restrained by Avey,
who continued to scream. Finally Avey hit Waite and
knocked him back down into his chair. At this point
Waite quieted down.
In the aftermath of this incident which had been so
loud as to disturb customers at the windows of the post
office, Williams went to his office and called South Sub-
urban for instructions. He was told to get Waite out of
the office and he instructed Daniels to send him out on
his route. Williams then left the office for about 4 hours
in order to regain his composure. He returned, and after
more consultation with his superiors at South Suburban,
prepared a proposed notice of removal of Waite from his
position at the Matteson post office. The basis for the re-
moval was the incident described above, and his earlier
suspension in October 1977, along with several lesser dis-
ciplinary items.
As a veteran Waite had the right to respond to the
notice of proposed removal, but he failed to answer; and
on December 4, 1979, he was advised by the director of
customer services at South Suburban that he was dis-
charged effective January 11, 1980.
It is clear to me that Waite tried to get at Williams in
an attempt to attack him physically. Both Williams and
Daniels took that to be so, and even the testimony of
Waite and Avey on the incident, which I have not cred-
ited, is in agreement that Avey was screaming and re-
straining Waite from getting out of his chair. This type
of action by Waite is not uncharacteristic as shown by
his previous suspension in October 1977, and his physical
challenge to Williams on February 10, 1979. Thus, Wil-
liams could reasonably have believed that Waite was
about to attack him, and his reaction was proper. This
kind of thing is a step beyond mere disrespect a' 6 or name
:"` the rcord here .ho , an abundance of disrespect and a lurhulerl.
dl,ordcrlk iffice I hi n
might reflect on Williams' qualities as a manager,
('orit,,inued
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calling. In the absence of antiunion motivation, and any
evidence of disparate treatment, I cannot find a violation
of the Act in this discharge.
G. Avey's Discharge
On October 26, 1979, Avey was given a bundle of
postage due letters to deliver to a business concern on
his route. These were business reply letters being re-
turned to the company, and were tied, together with a
form showing the amount deducted from the company's
account, in a single bundle. Donna Daniels testified that
at the close of the day, after Avey had completed his
route and gone home, she discovered this bundle, unde-
livered, in a sack of outgoing mail which Avey had col-
lected from boxes along his route.
The next morning Daniels asked Avey if he knew
what had happened to this mail. Avey said he had deliv-
ered it. Daniels asked if he was sure and he said yes. She
then produced the mail and asked him to look at the
date. He did, then said he guessed he never had the mail.
No action was taken, and there is no evidence of any dis-
cussion between Daniels and anyone else about this inci-
dent.
Then, on November 13, Avey had returned from his
route and was clearing his registered mail receipts with a
clerk when it was noticed that one receipt was missing.
The clerk called Daniels who came over and checked,
finding one receipt missing. Avey said he would check
his bags and she agreed. He checked his bags, the outgo-
ing mail table and other places, then came back to Dan-
iels and asked permission to go out and check his vehi-
cle. She agreed and he did so, but did not find the re-
ceipt or the piece of registered mail. -le came back and
said he could not find it, and that he did not know what
happened, and he did not understand. Daniels then asked
him if he had written down anything about the regis-
tered mail. He said he had not and then "proceeded to
cuss himself and hit himself in the head." Daniels told
him to go back out over the route and volunteered to
stay in the office until he got back. She described Avey
at that point as "like a zombie" and he punched out and
went home.
Avey returned to work the next day and went out on
his route but did not find the registered mail or the re-
ceipt. 3 7
Daniels told Williams the next day, having already no-
tified the postal inspectors as required.3 8 Williams called
Avey in and asked if Daniels had given him the opportu-
nity to find the registered mail. He said yes. Williams
then told Avey he could look that day, and if he found it
they would call off the inspectors. He then asked Avey
if he knew the penalty for losing a registered article, and
said, "Do you realize you lost a red?"39 Avey said "So."
and might. indeed, influence an arbitrator in these circumstances, hut ii
does not .show antiunion motivation, or a pretext for discharge
17 It had oot been found at the time of the hearing, and, as far as could
be determined
lit) claim was ever put in by the sellder or the addressee
's Apparently it is up to the inspectors to take charge of ani search or
Invesligation in these matters There is no e vidence that Willianms or Dan-
iels did anything further on that
:u Registered mail article
Williams asked him what he meant by that, and Avey
shrugged his shoulders and left.
Williams then prepared a notice of removal on Avey,
citing as the reasons, first, the failure to deliver the post-
age due letters on October 26, and, second, the loss of
the registered mail on November 13. In addition, the
letter stated that his past record was considered in taking
this action. That record included his first suspension in
January 1978, but noted that had been rescinded; the rev-
ocation of his driver's license, and also its restoration; a
settlement of an automobile accident claim; his suspen-
sion in March 1979 (which was later reversed in an arbi-
tration award on April 18, 1980); the deferment of his
step increase because of poor work performance, in
April 1979; and another suspension in April 1979, which
was later reduced by agreement of the parties.
Avey did not deny the fact that he had failed to deliv-
er the postage due letters, nor his loss of the registered
mail. His version of the events following these two
events differed from that related by Daniels and Wil-
liams. I do not credit Avey, in this, as throughout the
case, and find that the two instances happened as I have
described above.
Therefore, in the absence of antiunion motivation, or
any evidence of disparate treatment, I find that Avey's
discharge was for the reasons stated in the notice of re-
moval dated November 19, 1979. There is no evidence in
the record that any action against Avey was taken be-
cause he filed charges or gave testimony in the form of
statements to the Board.
Thus, I find that the General Counsel has not shown
by a preponderance of the credible evidence that Re-
spondent has violated Section 8(a)(l), (3), and (4) of the
Act.
CONCL USIONS OF LAW
1. The United States Postal Service is subject to the
jurisdiction of the National Labor Relations Board by
virtue of the Postal Reorganization Act, 39 U.S.C. §
1209 et seq.
2. The National Association of Letter Carriers, Branch
4016, is a labor organization within the meaning of Sec-
tion 2(5) of the Act.
3. The United States Postal Service has not engaged in
any violations of Section 8(a)(1), (3), or (4) of the Act.
Upon the foregoing findings of fact, conclusions of
law, and the entire record in this case, and pursuant to
Section 10(c) of the Act, I hereby issue the following
recommended:
ORDER 40
This complaint shall be, and it hereby is, dismissed in
its entirety.
4" In the evenlt no exceptions are filed as provided h) Sec 102.46 of
Ihe Rules and Regulations of the National Labor Relations Board, the
findings, conclusions, and recommended Order herein shall, as provided
in Svc 102 48 of lhe Rules and Regulations, be adopted by the Board and
beconme its findings, cornclusioris
and Order, and all objeclions thereto
shall he deemed vaived fir all purposes
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