328 NLRB 459
Michigan Timber & Truss, Inc.
MICHIGAN TIMBER & TRUSS, INC.
459
Michigan Timber & Truss, Inc. and Patrick T.
Raquepaw. Case 7–CA–40380
May 21, 1999
DECISION AND ORDER
BY CHAIRMAN TRUESDALE AND MEMBERS HURTGEN
AND BRAME
On July 27, 1998, Administrative Law Judge C. Rich-
ard Miserendino issued the attached decision. The
Charging Party filed exceptions and a supporting brief,
and the Respondent filed an answering brief.
The National Labor Relations Board has delegated its
authority in this proceeding to a three-member panel.
The Board has considered the decision and the record
in light of the exceptions and briefs and has decided to
affirm the judge’s rulings, findings,1 and conclusions2
and to adopt the recommended Order.
ORDER
The recommended Order of the administrative law
judge is adopted and the complaint is dismissed.
Jeffrey Wilson, Esq., for the General Counsel.
David Jerome, Esq., of Troy, Michigan, for the Respondent.
BENCH DECISION AND CERTIFICATION
STATEMENT OF THE CASE
C. RICHARD MISERENDINO, Administrative Law Judge. This
case was tried in Detroit, Michigan, on June 17, 1998. The
charge was filed on November 3, 1997, and the complaint was
issued on January 16, 1998. The complaint alleges that on No-
vember 3, 1997, the Respondent, by its shift foreman, James
Bennett, violated Section 8(a)(1) of the Act by interrogating the
Charging Party, an employee/union organizer, about his union
activities, and by telling him that the Respondent did not need
or want a union. The complaint further alleges that on Novem-
ber 3, 1997, the Respondent, by its shift foreman, James Ben-
nett, unlawfully terminated the Charging Party because of his
union activities in violation of Section 8(a)(3) and (1) of the
Act. The Respondent filed a timely answer denying the material
allegations of the complaint.
1 The Charging Party has excepted to some of the judge’s credibility
findings. The Board’s established policy is not to overrule an adminis-
trative law judge’s credibility resolutions unless the clear preponder-
ance of all the relevant evidence convinces us that they are incorrect.
Standard Dry Wall Products, 91 NLRB 544 (1950), enfd. 188 F.2d 362
(3d Cir. 1951). We have carefully examined the record and find no
basis for reversing the findings.
2 Contrary to the judge, Member Brame would find that the state-
ment made by Shift Foreman James Bennett to the Charging Party to
the effect that the Company did not need or want a union was not a
personal opinion. Rather, Member Brame would find that Bennett’s
statement, although attributable to the Respondent, is clearly lawful
under Sec. 8(c) of the Act. Sec. 8(c) specifically provides that “[t]he
expressing of any views, argument, or opinion, or dissemination thereof
. . . shall not constitute or be evidence of any unfair labor practice under
any of the provisions of this Act, if such expression contains no threat
of reprisal or force or promise of benefit.” See Medeco Security Locks
v. NLRB, 142 F.3d 733, 744 (4th Cir. 1998), citing Alpo Pet Foods v.
NLRB, 126 F.3d 246, 252 (4th Cir. 1997). Here, according to credited
testimony, the Charging Party initiated the conversation about the Un-
ion by explaining to Bennett what a union could do for the employees
in terms of higher wages and better benefits. Bennett’s reply merely
represented the Respondent’s opinion about unions. Chairman Trues-
dale and Member Hurtgen agree that the remark did not violate Sec.
8(a)(1). In this regard, they rely on all of the circumstances, including
the personal nature of the remarks and the substance thereof.
At the conclusion of the trial and following oral argument by
counsel for the General Counsel and counsel for the Respon-
dent, I issued a bench decision pursuant to Section 102.35(a) of
the Board’s Rules and Regulations, setting forth findings of fact
and conclusions of law. I found that the Charging Party was not
credible for the reasons stated in the transcript. On the other
hand, I credited the testimony of the shift foreman, James Ben-
nett, which, in part, was corroborated by another witness. I
found that Bennett did not interrogate the Charging Party about
his union activities. Rather, the evidence showed that after dis-
tributing union flyers outside the Respondent’s facility before
work, the Charging Party entered the building, clocked in for
work, and stopped to talk to two day-shift employees who were
on worktime at their work stations. When Bennett saw that the
Charging Party with the union flyers talking to the two employ-
ees, he asked the Charging Party to put the union flyers in his
car and to get to work. Upon returning from his car, Charging
Party stopped again to talk to one of the day-shift employees,
when Bennett asked him again to get to work. As Bennett and
the Charging Party walked down a hall toward the saw area, the
Charging Party began telling Bennett about the Union. For
demeanor, and other reasons stated in the transcript, I credit
Bennett’s testimony that that he did not ask questions about the
Union or the Charging Party’s union activities. Instead, the
evidence shows that Bennett sought to curtail the conversation
by telling the Charging Party to get to work and, in the course
of the conversation, Bennett stated that the Respondent did not
need or want a union. Thus, I concluded that in the context in
which the conversation occurred there was no violation of Sec-
tion 8(a)(1) of the Act.
I also found that in the context of the same conversation,
Bennett did not terminate the Charging Party. The credible
evidence shows that Bennett unsuccessfully attempted to end
the conversation by asking the Charging Party to return to
work. He finally told him that he could either go back to work
or leave at which time the Charging Party left. For demeanor,
and other reasons stated in the transcript, I was unpersuaded by
the Charging Party’s testimony that Bennett pointed to the door
and in an angry voice told him to take his union hat and go
back to his union job. The evidence shows that only minutes
before, Bennett calmly approached the Charging Party, asked
him to put the union leaflets in his car, and told him to go to
work. He did not reprimand or discipline the Charging Party for
disturbing the working employees, he did not attempt to confis-
cate the union material, and there is no evidence that he said
anything to the working employees about their conversation
with the Charging Party. I therefore concluded that no violation
of Section 8(a)(3) of the Act occurred.
In accordance with Section 102.45 of the Rules and Regula-
tions, I certify the accuracy of, and attach hereto as “Appendix
A,” the portion of the transcript containing this decision.1
1 Appendix B sets forth certain corrections to the transcript where
the text does not conform to my notes. [Certain corrections to the tran-
script have been noted and corrected and Appendix B is omitted from
publication.]
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CONCLUSIONS OF LAW
The Respondent has not violated the Act in any manner al-
leged in the complaint.
ORDER2
The complaint is dismissed.
APPENDIX A
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I’m going to recess until 1:45 PM. I’ll come back and give a
bench decision.
(A brief recess.)
JUDGE MISERENDINO: On the record. I am prepared to render
an oral decision.
I’ll take care of the procedural matters first. This charge was
filed on November 3, 1997. A complaint issued on January 16,
1998. Complaint alleges that the Respondent. Michigan Timber
and Truss, Inc., on November 3, 1997 violated section 8(a)1 of
the Act by through its agent’s supervisor James Bennett by
interrogating the Charging Party, Patrick Raquepaw, about his
union activities and telling him that the Respondent did not
want a union on the premises.
The complaint also alleges that the Respondent violated Sec-
tion 8(a)3 of the Act on November 3, 1997 by terminating the
Charging Party, Patrick Raquepaw because he assisted the un-
ion, engaged in concerted activities and engaged in activities—
and terminated him to discourage employees from engaging in
union activities.
Respondent filed a timely answer in this complaint. Counsel
for the parties have already stated their appearances on the
record, so I need not go over that.
With respect to jurisdiction, the Respondent is a corporation
with an office and place of business in
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Troy, Michigan and has been engaged in the manufacture of
roof trusses and floor trusses.
During the calendar year ending December 31, 1997, the Re-
spondent in conducting it’s business operations at the above
location derived gross revenues in excess of $500,000.
During the calendar year ending December 31, 1997, the Re-
spondent in conducting its business operations purchased and
received at its Troy facilities, goods valued in excess of
$50,000 directly from points outside the state of Michigan.
Respondent admits, and I find, that it is an employer engaged
in commerce within the meaning of Section (2), (6), and (7) of
the Act.
Respondent admits and I find that the local 1045, Interior
Systems Carpenters Union, United Brotherhood of Carpenters
and Joiners of America, AFL–CIO, is a labor organization
within the meaning of Section 2(5) of the Act.
Respondent admits and I find that Robert French and James
Bennett are supervisors within the meaning of Section 2(11) of
the Act and agents within the Section—the meaning of Section
2(13) of the Act.
2 If no exceptions are filed as provided by Sec. 102.46 of the Board’s
Rules and Regulations, the findings, conclusions, and recommended
Order shall, as provided in Sec. 102.48 of the Rules, be adopted by the
Board and all objections to them shall be deemed waived for all pur-
poses.
Now I’ll turn to the facts of the case. The evidence discloses
that the Respondent is a wholesale
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manufacturer of trusses in the Troy tri-county area. It manufac-
turers trusses for the use in support of roofs and floors.
It employs approximately 45 to 59 production employees as
well as approximately 10 office clericals.
The Charging Party, Patrick Raquepaw, is a member of local
1045 and for approximately the past year has been an organizer
with the union.
On or about October 20, 1997, Charging Party submitted an
application for employment to the Respondent. He underwent a
physical and shortly thereafter he was hired and began to work
for the Respondent on October 23, 1997 as a taller for a web
saw. He essentially was a helper for a web saw operator by the
name of Mr. John Miller.
He was assigned to the second shift, 2:00 p.m. to 10:00 p.m.
His supervisor on the second shift was shift foreman James
Bennett.
After the Charging Party was hired, he spoke to approxi-
mately fifteen employees on one or two occasions about the
union. These discussions occurred before work as employees
approached the employer’s facility.
According to Mr. Raquepaw’s testimony, prior to November
3, 1997, no supervisors knew of his union activities, he did not
pass out any union literature and
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he did not wear any union paraphernalia.
On November 3, 1997, approximately twenty minutes before
the second shift began at 2:00 p.m., Mr. Raquepaw stood in
front of the employer’s property on the public easement and
distributed a union leaflet which gave wage comparisons. He
was wearing a union hat and a shirt
After passing out the literature to approximately 15—after
passing out approximately 15 fliers, he entered the building to
punch in to go to work around 2:00 p.m.
On entering the building he was approached by a second
shift foreman Mr. James Bennett. It’s at this point that the tes-
timony, as given by Mr. Raquepaw and Mr. Bennett diverges.
According to the Charging Party’s testimony, Bennett came
up to him with a flier in his hand and told him to put the fliers
in his car. Charging Party responded “Yeah, but I don’t want to
be late.” And Mr. Bennett then said ‘‘Don’t worry about it.”
So he went outside and he came back. When he came back
in, Bennett approached him again, and asked him what he was
doing. Charging Party testified that he said he was on his way
to his work. This conversation took place by the cafeteria.
At that point, Bennett said ‘‘What is this union stuff all
about?”
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Charging Party said, testified that it was something that will
help the guys. According to Raquepaw, testified at that point
that Mr. Bennett became upset and he stated “We don’t need a
union around here. We don’t want a union and we don’t need a
union around. here.”
Raquepaw said that this would be good for the guys. At that
point Mr. Bennett became more upset and he said “Take your
union hat and shirt and go back to the union job.[”] He did this
while he was pointing to the door. He said it in a loud voice and
he was visibly upset.
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Mr. Raquepaw at that point left the building.
According to Mr. Bennett, he testified that on November 3rd,
before the second shift began, the saw cutter, John Miller, came
into the office. He told him that Raquepaw was outside in the
parking lot passing out union fliers to bring in a union.
At that point Miller asked him what was going on. Bennett
testified that he responded to Miller that he did not know and
Miller left the office.
Then he further testified that from inside the office, which
was located in the center of the shop floor, which has glass
windows all around, he could see Raquepaw enter the building,
and he stopped to talk to a Scott—whose name I still cannot—I
don’t have a
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proper spelling on—and Brian Florence, who were two shift
operators, employees who were still on the clock.
At that point Bennett testified he walked out of the office and
over to Raquepaw and asked him what he was doing. He no-
ticed that Raquepaw had some fliers in his hand which he was
trying—it appeared he was trying to hide them behind his back.
Bennett said to Raquepaw ‘‘Go out and put the fliers in your
car.’’
Raquepaw left the facility and went out to his car and came
back in.
Bennett testified that when he told Raquepaw to go out to the
car, he noticed that he was wearing a union hat, but he could
not remember seeing a union shirt or he could not remember
seeing a union jacket.
Raquepaw left the building and came back. And at that time,
Bennett, the foreman, was standing by the tables in the line 1
area. When Raquepaw came back into the building, he stopped
to talk to Brian Flores again. At that point Bennett testified that
he went up to him again and asked him ‘‘What are you doing?
Let’s get to work.”
The two then started to walk down a hall towards the cafete-
ria which is on its way to the saw cut area. According to Ben-
nett, Raquepaw started talking about the
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union. He began to explain what it could do for the guys—for
the employees in terms of higher wages and better benefits.
Bennett then said to Raquepaw “We don’t need a union. We
don’t want a union, and we don’t want need a union.”
Raquepaw kept talking about the union and it’s benefits.
Bennett described their conversation as one in which there was
no hostility. They were talking in a loud voice because of the
machines. But there was no anger involved.
Finally, he told Raquepaw to either go back to work or leave
at which point Bennett testified that Raquepaw said “I choose
to leave.”
He then walked toward the door, took off his union hat and
threw it to one of the employees on the first line.
After that incident, after Raquepaw left the building,
Raquepaw testified that he want back to the union hall to ex-
plain what occurred and he returned to the employer’s facility
one or two times in the next two weeks to talk to the guys.
Bennett went to the first shift supervisor, Bob French, and
told him what happened. He told French that he gave
Raquepaw the choice of either going or staying
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and Raquepaw chose to leave.
French went to the CEO, part-owner, Jeffrey Van Every, and
told him what had occurred. Van Every testified that that was
the first time he knew of the incident that took place on No-
vember 3, 1997.
Turning to the unfair labor practice portion of the case, Sec-
tion 8(a)1 violation. Section 7 of the Act guarantees employee’s
the right to self organize, to form, join or assist labor organiza-
tions, bargaining collectively through representatives of their
own choosing, to engage in other concerted activities for the
purpose of collective bargaining or other mutual aid and protec-
tion.
Section 8(a)1 prohibits employer’s interference, restraint or
coercion of employees exercising their rights guaranteed by
Section 7.
With respect to the Section 8(a)1 violation, case either rises
or falls on a credibility determination of Mr. Raquepaw and Mr.
Bennett.
I credit Mr. Bennett’s testimony as to what he said he said
prior to Mr. Raquepaw leaving on November 3rd. That is, that
Mr. Raquepaw initiated the conversation about the union, that
Bennett said to him ‘‘We don’t want or need a union around
here, and that Raquepaw continued talking about the union.”
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I credit Mr. Bennett’s testimony because of omissions and
contradictions in Mr. Raquepaw’s testimony. Specifically, in
going over the evidence I note that Mr. Raquepaw, in testifying,
omitted the fact that he had fliers in his possession when he
came into the building.
And that he attempted to hide them behind his back when he
was approached by mr. Bennett. He also omitted to testify that
he stopped to speak to Brian Flores and Scott the first time he
came into the building, and he omitted to testify that he stopped
to talk to Brian Flores the second time he came into the build-
ing.
While these omissions many not seem of anything of conse-
quence, they suggest to me that he was prone not to tell—not
that he was not telling the truth, but he wasn’t telling the whole
truth. He wasn’t giving us the whole story when he was testify-
ing.
I also find him incredulous to the extent that his testimony
was contradicted by John Miller. John Miller is no longer em-
ployed by the employer. He didn’t come here with any particu-
lar motive or ax to grind, so to speak.
Mr. Miller testified that when he was handing out the leaflets
on November 3, 1997, just prior to the second shoift starting,
that he handed one to John Miller
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and he told him ‘‘Something is going to happen today.”
Mr. Raquepaw testified he didn’t elaborate anything further.
And he specifically denied telling Miller that he was going to
be fired.
Miller, on the other hand, testified that when he came to
work on November 3rd he was driven in a car by his mother, or
mother-in-law and as he pulled up Raquepaw approached the
vehicle and extended his hand and said ‘‘So long, it was good
working with you. I’ll probably be fired today. I’m a union
organizer.”
That goes far beyond what Mr. Raquepaw testified he said to
Miller on that day.
And it also directly contradicts his statement that he did not
say he was going to be fired.
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Miller also contradicted Raquepaw in another respect. Miller
testified that after November 11th for two weeks, almost on a
daily basis, Raquepaw appeared at the employer’s facility
where he attempted to talk to Miller and others about the union.
He gave an example of following him to a convenience store
during their lunch break. Miller testified that he became, al-
most—such a daily time that he felt he was being harassed and
he was considering filing charges for harassment.
This is inconsistent with Mr. Raquepaw’s testimony
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that he was there only two or three times in the two period just
talking to the guys.
Again, it suggests to me that he was less than fully candid in
his testimony in telling the entire story and had a tendency to
downplay significant aspects of his testimony.
I credit Mr. Bennett that it was Charging Party Raquepaw,
not he, that initiated the conversation about the union, because
on November 3rd, I think that was the mode of operation for
Mr. Raquepaw. He was there to tell everyone about the union.
That was the intent, to pass out the fliers, to talk to the em-
ployees. That’s what he attempted to do to Brian Flores and
also to Scott initially when he entered the facility. And also
with respect to Brian when he came back the second time.
I think it’s very plausible, though, in that vein, that he tried
to convince his supervisor the benefits of union organizing
when the two of them were walking down the hall by the cafe-
teria.
He is the one—I find that he is the one that initiated the con-
versation.
I credit Mr. Bennett’s testimony that he denied asking
“What’s this union stuff all about?”
In this connection I look at his comment in the
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totality of the circumstances. The testimony is that when he
first approached Mr. Raquepaw the first time, he simply asked
him to put—asked him what was going on and asked him to put
the literature in the car.
He didn’t ask—he didn’t confiscate the literature. He didn’t
try to take it away from him. He didn’t tell him not to talk to
any of the employees. He just said to put it in the car, to put it
away.
That would have been an ideal time to make an inquiry as to
what the union stuff was all about or go any further about why
he was trying to organize and he didn’t do any of those things.
The testimony is—and Mr. Raquepaw’s testimony is, that he
just came up to him and asked him to put it in his car and then
Mr. Raquepaw expressed a concern about being late to which
Mr. Bennett responded “Don’t worry about that. Just go put it
in your car and come on back and punch in.”
There was no hostility. There was no anger in that conversa-
tion. And I think that would have been the step off point to
making a inquiry about the union and it didn’t occur at that
point.
With respect to the conversation that happened outside the
cafeteria, I think it’s very important to look in the context in
which that conversation arose.
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It was a casual conversation. It was open. It was in a hallway
outside a public area; public, in the sense that it was a cafeteria
that’s frequented by the employees.
And I credit Mr. Bennett’s testimony that it was initiated by
Mr. Raquepaw, again, because that was something that he was
attempting to achieve that day was talk up the union and get
people interested in it.
And I think he continued that when he came back into the
building.
Again, there was at that point no attempt to confiscate any
literature or stifle the conversation. I think it arose in a casual
conversation. And the opinions—the statement by Mr. Bennett
that ‘‘We don’t need a union, we don’t want a union.” I view
that and I find that that was his personal opinion.
The evidence in this case shows that there was never any
conversation by Mr. Van Every with his foremans as to how
they were supposed to deal with the union. There was no con-
versation about the union at all, whether he was for it or against
it.
He said at one point he may have expressed an opinion that
he didn’t think that they needed a union, but that didn’t occur
within a six month time before November 3rd and he was un-
sure when it happened.
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There’s no testimony elicited through Mr. Bennett that con-
tradicts that statement.
And I think he was expressing his personal opinion and not
necessarily the opinion of the employer but it arose in a casual
contact in a conversation that was initiated by Mr. Raquepaw.
For these reasons I shall recommend that the allegation of
paragraph 11 of the complaint, that the Respondent violated
Section 8(a)(1) of the Act be dismissed.
Now turning to the 8(a)(3) alleged violation. Section 8(a)3
prohibits an employer from discriminating in regard to an em-
ployee’s tenure of employment, to encourage or discourage
membership in any labor organization.
In Write Line, 251 NLRB 1083 (1980),—and I’ll omit the
rest of the citations—the Board established an analytic frame-
work for deciding discrimination cases turning on employer
motivation.
Essentially, General Counsel has—must establish—has the
burden of establishing at least initially, protected activity, of
knowledge, animus or hostility, and adverse action on behalf of
the employer which tends to encourage or discourage protected
activity.
The burden then shifts to the employer to
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persuasively establish by a preponderance of evidence that it
would have made the same decision even in the absence of
protected activity.
With respect to the protected conduct, I don’t think there’s
any question and certainly neither side has argued that there
wasn’t any protected conduct here. I think the distribution of
the leafleting and the attempts to talk to the employees clearly
constitutes protected conduct.
With respect to the knowledge element, certainly on Novem-
ber 3rd, the evidence showed that the second shift, Mr. Bennett,
had knowledge of Mr. Raquepaw’s union activity. That was for
the first time.
Mr. Bennett also testified that he had the authority to hire
and fire. Whether or not Mr. McEvery was aware of it or not, at
least his first line supervisor, who had the authority to make a
decision, and in this case, allegedly did make that decision, was
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aware of the union activity. So I think that there is evidence of
knowledge.
Turning to the evidence of animus, I think you have to look
at—it’s very important to look at the entire context of the case.
Again, initially when Mr. Raquepaw went into the building,
came into the building, I note that the union literature was not
confiscated. He was
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not discouraged from talking to any of the other employees in
the sense by being told to do that. There was no threat implied
or implicit of any type of action if he continued to do it.
He was simply told to take the information back, to his car
and come back into work and punch in.
The animus, if there is any animus, is contained in the state-
ment ‘‘We don’t need a union and want a union.” Because it
was made by a person who had the authority to hire and fire.
And it certainly shows opposition to the union by a person in
that capacity.
Although, I think that’s somewhat of a thin reed as far as
animus goes I do feel that the evidence does support an infer-
ence of animus in this case.
That brings us to the last element which is adverse action.
And here again the testimony diverges. The testimony of Mr.
Raquepaw was the Mr. Bennett told him ‘‘We don’t want a
union or need a union. Take your union hat and go back to your
union job.”
At which point Mr. Raquepaw interpreted that as he was be-
ing told that he was fired and he left. There’s no evidence here
that anyone used the word ‘‘Fired” or anyone said that you’re
through or anything to that extent. Mr. Bennett’s testimony was
that Mr. Raquepaw as I found, engaged him a conversation
about the union
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and he told him that we didn’t need and we don’t want a union.
That Mr. Raquepaw continued to try to persuade him about
the merits of joining a union and at which point he gave—he
told him either you can go back to work or you can leave.
The inference there being that he had discussed enough
about the union and it was time to get back to work. At which
time Mr. Raquepaw chose—said ‘‘I choose to leave.”
I credit the testimony of Mr. Bennett. I find it a little implau-
sible that Mr. Raquepaw would not ask for a better, clearer
definition of what Mr. Bennett was telling him if he told him to
take his union hat and job and go back to the union hall.
He didn’t ask him if he was being fired. He didn’t ask him
for any type of explanation. He simply left the building.
Again, I look at the credibility resolutions that I made before,
and particularly the omissions and the contradictions that I’ve
alluded to before in making this determination.
The other factor that I take into consideration is the fact that
if Mr. Bennett was inclined to fire Mr. Raquepaw I think the
opportune time to do that would
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have been in the first instance when he came into the building
with the fliers and he was seen talking to the employees.
That would have been the time to turn him around and send
him away and fire him. But, the evidence shows that’s not what
Mr. Bennett did. He simply asked him to take the information
out to his car and he let him back into the building and he let
him, at least begin to proceed to his work area.
To me, that’s not conduct which is consistent with someone
who is intending to or did fire somebody.
So, based on the evidence before me, I shall recommend that
the allegations of the complaint with respect to Section 8(a)3
violation be dismissed as well.
As far as a conclusion goes, I recommend—I find that the
complaint should be dismissed in its entirety.
Does anyone want to say anything before I close the record?
MR. JEROME: Nothing further, Your Honor.
JUDGE MISERENDINO: Nothing from the General Counsel?
MR. WILSON: No. Hank you
JUDGE MISERENDINO: Nothing from the union?
MR. NAHAT: Nothing. Thank you.
JUDGE MISERENDINO: This hearing is closed.
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(Off the record)
(Whereupon, the hearing was concluded at 2:35 PM.)