296 NLRB 51
Long Island Jewish Hillside Medical Center
LONG ISLAND JEWISH MEDICAL CENTER
Long Island Jewish Hillside Medical Center and
Local 1199, Drug, Hospital and Health Care
Employees Union, RWDSU, AFL-CIO. Case
29-CA-12735
August 10, 1989
DECISION AND ORDER
BY MEMBERS CRACRAFT, HIGGINS, AND
DEVANEY
On April 18,
1988, Administrative Law Judge
Joel P. Biblowitz issued the attached decision. The
General Counsel and the Charging Party filed ex-
ceptions and a supporting briefs . The Respondent
filed cross-exceptions and a brief in opposition to
the General Counsel 's and the Charging Party's ex-
ceptions and in support of its cross -exceptions. The
Charging Party filed a brief in answer to the Re-
spondent's cross-exceptions.
The National Labor Relations Board has delegat-
ed its authority in this proceeding to a three-
member panel.
The Board has considered the decision and the
record in light of the exceptions and briefs and has
decided to affirm the judge's rulings, findings,' and
conclusions2 and to adopt the recommended Order
as modified.
ORDER
The National Labor Relations Board adopts the
recommended Order of the administrative law
judge and orders that the Respondent, Long Island
Jewish Hillside Medical Center , New Hyde Park,
New York, its officers, agents, successors, and as-
signs, shall take the action set forth in the Order.
' The General Counsel , the Respondent , and the Charging Party have
excepted to some of the ,fudge's credibility findings
The Board's estab-
lished policy is not to overrule an administrative law judge's credibility
resolutions unless the clear preponderance of all the relevant evidence
convinces us that they are incorrect. Standard Dry Wall Products, 91
NLRB 544 ( 1950), enfd 188 F 2d 362 (3d Cir 1951 ) We have carefully
examined the record and find no basis for reversing the findings.
2 Although we adopt the judge's dismissal of the complaint's allegation
that the Respondent violated Sec . 8(a)(1) by taking union leaflets from an
employee and returning them to union organizer Nordenberg on October
9, 1986, we do not agree with his rationale Rather , we find that the Re-
spondent was entitled to take this action because Nordenberg had not ob-
tained permission , as required under the parties' contractual practice, to
enter the Respondent's admitting department, and department employees
were contractually precluded from distributing the union leaflets during
working time or in work areas
In the absence of exceptions, we adopt pro forma the judge's finding
that the Respondent did not violate Sec 8(a)(1) by informing Nordenberg
in a November 4, 1986 letter that it would address the issue of discipline
for his activities as a union organizer if he sought to return from a leave
of absence to active duty.
Elias Feuer, Esq., for the General Counsel.
David
H.
Diamond,
Esq.
and
Cathy A. Pohl, Esq.
(Summit, Rovins & Feldesman), for the Respondent.
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Amy Gladstein, Esq. (Gladstein, Reif & Meginnis), for the
Charging Party.
DECISION
STATEMENT OF THE CASE
JOEL P. BIBLOWITZ, Administrative Law Judge. This
case was heard by me on 13 hearing days between the
dates of 26 May and 29 October 1987 in Brooklyn, New
York. The complaint, which issued on 30 January 1987,
and was based on an unfair labor practice charge, and a
first amended charge, filed on 19 November 19861 and
22 December by Local 1199, Drug, Hospital and Health
Care
Employees
Union,
RWDSU, AFL-CIO (the
Union), alleges that Long Island Jewish Hillside Medical
Center (Respondent) failed to honor contractual provi-
sions in its contract with the Union and unilaterally
changed that provision, thereby violating Section 8(a)(1)
and (5) of the Act by engaging in the following conduct:
(a) On or about 8 and 9 October, Respondent, by
Wendy Camel, its director of admitting, at the admitting
office at Respondent's New Hyde Park facility (unless
otherwise indicated the facility shall refer to Respond-
ent's New Hyde Park facility), denied the Union' s orga-
nizers, Gerard Nordenberg and Clifton Durham, access
to the admitting office at the facility.
(b) Since about 9 October, Respondent has totally
banned Nordenberg from acting as the designated repre-
sentative of the Union at the facility, and has denied him
access to the facility.
(c) On or about 29 August,
Respondent, by Ardie
Epranian, its director of labor and employee relations, by
letter to Nordenberg, promulgated (and has since main-
tained) the following rule: "any Union
representative
[seeking access to confer with employees] must request
and obtain supervisory permission before conferring with
any employee during their working hours." It is alleged
that Respondent promulgated and maintained this rule in
order to discourage its employees from joining or assist-
ing the Union.
(d) Respondent unilaterally changed the provisions of
article V, section 1, of its contract by implementing the
rule set forth in the above paragraph, without prior
notice to the Union and without having afforded it an
opportunity
to
negotiate and bargain regarding the
change.
It is also alleged that Respondent violated Section
8(a)(1) of the Act in the following manner:
(a) On or about 16 July, by Paul Davin, its labor rela-
tions supervisor, at the Levitt building at the facility,
interfered with a union meeting conducted by Norden-
berg.
(b) On or about 9 October, by Camel, confiscated
union literature from employees in the admitting office at
the facility.
(c) On or about 9 October, caused Nordenberg to be
arrested by the Police Department of the City of New
York, on unlawful trespass charges, in the cafeteria at
the facility in the presence of Respondent's employees.
' Unless indicated otherwise , all dates refer to 1986.
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(d) By letter dated 4 November of Epranian threat-
ened its employee Nordenberg with unspecified reprisals
because of his activities as an organizer for the Union.
On the entire record , including my observation of the
witnesses, and the briefs received, I make the following
FINDINGS OF FACT
1. JURISDICTION AND LABOR ORGANIZATION
There being no dispute, I find that Respondent is an
employer engaged in commerce within the meaning of
Section 2(2), (6), and (7) of the Act and that the Union is
a labor organization within the meaning of Section 2(5)
of the Act.
II. INTRODUCTORY FACTS
On 20 October the Union and the League of Volun-
tary Hospitals and Homes of New York (the League) en-
tered into a collective -bargaining agreement, effective 1
July through 30 June 1989 (the Agreement ). The Agree-
ment states that it is entered into by the League as agent
for, and on behalf of, its members, which includes Re-
spondent. The parties stipulated that the bargaining units
of Respondent covered by this Agreement are service
and maintenance, clerical, social workers, social work as-
sistants, technical and licensed practical nurses.
Article V of the Agreement (which the parties stipu-
lated has not changed since 1974) states:
Union Activity, Visitation and Bulletin Boards
1. No employee shall engage in any Union activi-
ty, including the distribution of literature which
could interfere
with the performance of work
during his/her working time or in working areas of
the Employer at any time, except as provided in
Article XXXI grievance procedure.
2. A representative of the Union shall have rea-
sonable access to the Employer for the purpose of
conferring with the Employer, delegates of the
Union and/or Employees, and for the purpose of
administering this
Agreement.
Where the Union
representative finds it necessary to enter a depart-
ment of the Employer for this purpose, he/she shall
first advise the personnel office or the head of the
department or his/her designee in person, as the
Employer shall state. A delegate intending to go to
a department other than the one he/she represents
shall follow the above procedure. Such visits shall
not interfere with the operation of the Employer.
3. The Employer shall provide Bulletin Board(s)
which shall be used for the purpose of posting
proper Union notices . Such Bulletin Board(s) shall
be placed conspicuously and at places readily acces-
sible to workers in the course of employment.
4. The work schedules of Employees selected as
Union Delegates shall be adjusted to permit attend-
ance at regular delegate assembly meetings provid-
ing Employer operations shall not be impaired.
There were two principal subjects litigated: the allega-
tion that Respondent barred Nordenberg from its prem-
ises on 9 October and had him arrested when he refused
to leave the facility; Respondent admits that it did so, but
alleges that it did so because of Nordenberg 's violent and
otherwise inappropriate conduct at the facility from 1
July to 9 October . To prove that this action was not un-
lawful, Respondent points out that the other agents of
the Union continue to use the facility as before. The
other principal allegation is that in July and August Re-
spondent changed "the rules of the game," i.e., that pre-
viously its organizers were allowed practically unlimited
access to the unit employees at the facility (after notify-
ing the personnel department of their presence) and that
in mid-to-late 1986 Respondent changed this policy to re-
quire prior permission from the supervisor prior to enter-
ing the department. Respondent alleges that the Union's
organizers and representatives always needed prior ap-
proval of the supervisor prior to entering the depart-
ment.
III. NORDENBERG AND HIS EVENTUAL OUSTER
A. Background
Nordenberg began his employment with Respondent
in 1981; shortly thereafter he became a psyche aid, a po-
sition he maintained with Respondent through June. He
testified that he became a union delegate in February
1982 and remained one until January; Epranian testified
that the first time Respondent was notified by the Union
that Nordenberg was a delegate was on 17 July 1984,
and a letter of that date stating that Nordenberg, and
others, had been elected as delegates, was received into
evidence. Also received in evidence was a letter, dated
15 April 1985 from the Union to Respondent , stating that
George Thompson was elected delegate and that he
would replace Nordenberg . Upon obtaining the position
of organizer with the Union, he applied for and received
a 6-month leave of absence from his employment with
Respondent. Effective about 1 July he became an orga-
nizer for the Union . Sometime prior to 4 November the
Union requested an additional 6-month leave of absence
for Nordenberg. By letter dated 4 November, Epranian
informed the Union that the extension was approved
through 30 June 1987, but that was the final extension as
the contract limits such leaves to 1-year maximums. The
letter also stated that because of the "recent misconduct"
at the facility (to be discussed fully below ) if Nordenberg
did apply to return to Respondent 's employ he would
have to notify Respondent a month earlier to give Re-
spondent time to address "the question of disciplinary
remedy for his recent misconduct ." This became unnec-
essary as 30 June 1987 passed without Nordenberg reap-
plying for employment with Respondent . At the time of
the hearing, his employment as organizer for the Union
continued.
B. I July Incident with Anzel
Mary Jo Anzel began her employ with Respondent on
16 June as laboratory administrator, a unit containing ap-
proximately 200 laboratory employees . About a week
later she had a meeting with Epranian , Davin, and Sheila
Buthe, of Respondent's Labor Relations office; they in-
structed her that whenever she wanted to speak to, or
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discipline, an employee, the employee had the right to
have a representative present-"I took that to mean
one." A few days prior to 1 July, Anzel had scheduled
an investigatory
meeting for that day with Martha
McDermott, a unit employee in the department, who, al-
legedly, refused to work mandatory overtime. Anzel
wanted to learn what occurred . The meeting took place
at or about 2:15 p.m. The first person to arrive at her
office was Ernie Geiger, a supervisor . A few minutes
later, there was a knock at the door and McDermott
walked into Anzel's office with Sandra Messina, who
had previously been a delegate, Richard Tjaden, who
Anzel did not know, but later learned was the mainte-
nance delegate for the Union, and Nordenberg, who in-
troduced himself as the union organizer and said that he
would be present at the meeting . (This was the first time
Anzel had met Nordenberg , who became an organizer
only a day or two earlier.) She testified that she told
Nordenberg that McDermott could have one representa-
tive from the Union with her, and as far as she knew it
was to be Messina . Nordenberg said that he would be
there as well, and Anzel said that she would only allow
one representative for the Union ; if Messina wanted to
withdraw in favor of Nordenberg that was fine with her.
(By this time, Geiger, McDermott, and Messina were
seated in Anzel's office, Tjaden was standing by the door
where he remained throughout the incident .) At this
point, Nordenberg became "abusive and very loud." He
called Anzel an "asshole" and said that she did not know
what she was doing and did not understand union rules;
he said that he was going to be present . She asked him
to leave; he refused and said that he was going to use
her phone. She said : "This is my office, I am going to
use my phone." He said that he wanted to call Epranian
and she said that she would call labor relations. She
went to the telephone on her desk (there is a narrow pas-
sageway between her desk and the bookcases behind her
desk) and a she began dialing the phone . Nordenberg
(who was right behind her) said that she had pushed
him; she denied it and he insisted that it was so. He then
hit her right shoulder with his right hand and she fell
against the bookcase behind her desk . As Nordenberg
was blocking the only exit of the passageway from
behind her desk she could not leave. She called labor re-
lations and told Buthe what occurred . Buthe said that
she would call security and that Anzel should do the
same, which she did. They said that they would send
someone to the office. After she completed the call she
had to remain behind the desk because Nordenberg con-
tinued to block her egress. She asked them to leave; Nor-
denberg called her an "asshole" again and the others said
that she was a "little shit who didn 't know what she was
doing." Nordenberg then said that he was going to call
Epranian and went to
Anzel's secretary's connecting
office to make the call. During this period she, again,
called Buthe. When he returned, he again blocked her
egress. Anzel asked them to leave and -•Nordenberg said
that it was a simple procedure , but that Anzel had made
it
difficult.
At this point, Nordenberg walked from
behind Anzel's desk to near one of the doors of the
office. (There are two doors from the office; one a main
door exiting the office and the other a side door into
Anzel's secretary's office-the office Nordenberg made
his call from.) Anzel then walked from behind her desk
and attempted to leave her office. Nordenberg put his
body in front of her and blocked her exit. She then at-
tempted to exit the side door, but he moved and blocked
that exit as well. Messina then said that they had better
leave since security was coming . At that point they all
left; prior to leaving, Nordenberg again called Anzel an
"asshole." During this entire incident, Geiger remained
in the office. He was originally seated (like McDermott
and Messina), but stood up when Nordenberg pushed
her.
Geiger testified that the meeting was for the purpose
of obtaining information to determine whether McDer-
mott should be disciplined for refusing mandatory over-
time. He notified McDermott of the meeting the prior
day and told her that she could bring a representative
with her-"anyone she chooses." On the day in question,
Geiger was in Anzel's office when McDermott knocked
on her door. Anzel opened the door and McDermott and
Messina walked in first and sat down beside Geiger;
there were only three chairs in the room beside Anzel's
desk chair. Nordenberg was in the threshold of the door-
way (While Tjaden was still behind him) and said that he
was the new union organizer and would be sitting in;
Anzel said that McDermott had the right to representa-
tion and it could be anyone, but only one; Nordenberg
said that he was going to remain and Anzel said that he
was not-"one person , that's it." Nordenberg said that
she was mistaken,
that
he would call the personnel
office; Anzel said that she would call personnel. They
both went to get the telephone that is on Anzel's desk,
but Anzel got to the phone first; as she was dialing the
phone Nordenberg said : "You pushed me." Anzel said
that she did not push him. Nordenberg then hit her right
shoulder with his right hand and she fell backwards. He
again repeated that Anzel had pushed him and called her
an "asshole." He said : "I wanted to do this nice, but this
is the union, you're not going to get away with this."
Anzel then spoke on the phone to personnel and when
she finished the call she said that Buthe said that he had
to leave and she should call security to escort him out.
She then called security and asked them to come to the
office. During this period there were also a running con-
versation between McDermott and Messina critical of
Anzel. Anzel then called personnel again while Norden-
berg went into the outer office to make a telephone call.
Anzel got through to Epranian and Nordenberg returned
to her office and said that he wanted to talk to Epranian;
Anzel gave him the phone. At the conclusion of this
phone call Anzel again asked them to leave, but they re-
fused. Anzel attempted to get out from behind her desk,
but Nordenberg blocked her from leaving. Shortly there-
after (before security arrived) they left. Geiger testified
that when Nordenberg hit Anzel's right shoulder, he
stood up; he did not say anything or proceed to Norden-
berg because he felt that the worst was over.
Jeanne Feller began her employ with Respondent on
16 June as a medical secretary-Anzel's. She occupies
the outer office-the one Nordenberg used to make a
telephone call. She was in that office during this inci-
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dent, which she heard, rather than saw. She testified that
after they entered Anzel's office Nordenberg twice said
that Anzel had pushed him; she denied it. On more than
one occasion Nordenberg called Anzel
an "asshole."
Nordenberg then came into her office to use the phone.
When he returned, he again called Anzel an asshole and
she asked him to leave . They eventually left, but not
through her office.
Epranian testified that on that afternoon he had a brief
telephone conversation with Nordenberg while he was in
Anzel's office. But he was originally on the phone with
Anzel and transferred the call to Epranian, telling him,
at the same time, that there was an altercation at the
time in Anzel's office. Nordenberg complained to Epran-
ian that he was having a problem at Anzel's office.
Epranian told Nordenberg that he understood that Anzel
had asked him to leave and he should do so, and they
could discuss the matter at a subsequent time:
At that point he lost his control and started scream-
ing, ranting and raving at me, telling me I didn't
know what the fuck I was doing and I didn't know
the contract and, as I recall , he hung up on me.
After learning more of the incident, Epranian reported it
to I. S. Forman, Respondent's vice president for human
resources, and Epranian's superior, and they decided that
"a very strong protest should be formulated and issued."
The result was the following letter dated 1 July2 from
Forman to the Union's president and vice president,
Georgianna Johnson and Carlton Yearwood, as well as
Nordenberg:
It is with great regret that so soon after your in-
stallation as an Officer of Local 1199 it is necessary
that this letter must be written. I thought that when
you came to my office this morning and introduced
yourself and the two organizers that your interest
was to establish a meaningful , cooperative working
relationship with the management of this Medical
Center. Further encouragement was gleaned from
your expressions of such desire.
Much to my dismay and disappointment , within a
couple of hours after leaving our offices, Mr. Nor-
denberg (whom you had just introduced as a new
organizer) intruded into the Laboratory Administra-
tor's office where he had no right to be, both refus-
ing to leave when requested to do so and resorting
to verbal and physical abuse of unpardonable di-
mension.
Clearly this kind of conduct and behavior not
only demonstrates a total lack of any kind of profes-
sionalism, but completely contravenes your pro-
fessed intent and desire to establish a responsible
working relationship with us.
Therefore, this will serve as a formal admonition
that any behavior of this nature is completely unac-
ceptable and repugnant to this office and the man-
agement of this institution , and will be met with
stern
countermeasures
if ever repeated by any
2 Although the letter is dated I July, Epraman testified that it was ini-
tially drafted that day, but was not mailed until 2 or 3 July
Union representative . Further, this incident bodes
poorly for any expectation of reasonableness in our
future relations unless this remains an isolated inci-
dent.
After this letter was sent, Epranian attempted to have a
..one on one meeting" with Nordenberg to "see if we
could 'find some understandings and reach some recon-
ciliations to avoid further problems ." In this regard
Epranian placed a number of telephone calls to Norden-
berg, which were not returned.
Nordenberg testified that this incident was the first
time he met Anzel . Earlier that day he was informed by
McDermott and Messina that a warning notice was
going to be issued to McDermott for refusing mandatory
overtime-"they asked me to participate." He testified
that he felt the problem could be settled rather easily and
for that reason, as well as to introduce himself to Anzel,
he decided to attend, although, "technically" an employ-
ee does not have the right to invite him to such a meet-
ing. When they walked into Anzel's office he told Anzel
that he was there to introduce himself and sit in on the
grievance. She told him that he could not be there; when
he refused to leave she said that she would call security.
He said that she was making a big thing out of nothing
and that he wanted to sit in because he was new on the
job, although he probably would have nothing to con-
tribute. She again asked him to leave and he told her that
he would call personnel and settle the matter; she told
him that he could not use her phone . They both began
walking toward the telephone on Anzel's desk and he
picked up the telephone and began to dial. Anzel
"grabbed" the phone and pushed him away from the
desk. He then "disengaged" from her by turning around
and removing her hand from his arm ; he did not push
her and did not see her fall against the desk. Anzel said
that she was going to call security, and, at that point,
Nordenberg and the others left. While in the office, he
and Anzel "argued back and forth," but he never pre-
vented her from getting out from behind her desk nor
did he call her an "asshole." Later that day he spoke to
Epranian, who told him that he agreed with Anzel and
he should not have been there.
McDermott testified that while her normal shift on 1
July was 4 p.m. to midnight, she was asked to come to
work earlier on
1 July to be given a warning notice. It
was originally scheduled to take place on 28 June, but
because McDermott could not obtain a union representa-
tive, it was rescheduled for 1 July . She, Messina, Tjaden,
and Nordenberg together walked into Anzel's office. She
had asked Messina and Tjaden to accompany her to
Anzel's office; she was first introduced to Nordenberg
shortly before entering Anzel's office. She did not specif-
ically ask him to represent her at the meeting; she "pre-
sumes" Messina did. "Seconds before" entering Anzel's
office, McDermott told Nordenberg about her warning
notice. When they entered the office Anzel was behind
her desk and when they appeared she said that Norden-
berg could not be there ("something about organizers
not coming into things like this or something"). Norden-
berg said that he had a right to be there and she again
said that he would have to leave. Nordenberg then said
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that he wanted to use her phone to call personnel and
Anzel said that he could not use her phone . He walked
toward the phone and Anzel said "you're not using this
telephone," stood up and pushed him hard in his shoul-
der area
("[s]he
was getting hysterical .
She acted
crazy."). Nordenberg then said, "don't push me" and
Anzel said that she did not push him. He then said: "you
did this to me," and
"barely touched her with one
finger" on her shoulder. Nordenberg then went to the
outer office to call personnel ; at the same time, Anzel
used the phone in her office to first call personnel and
then security . Shortly thereafter Nordenberg returned to
Anzel's office; Anzel handed the written warning to
McDermott and Tjaden took it and they all walked out
of the office. She testified that during the entire period
while they were in Anzel 's office she made "snide" re-
marks to Messina, loud enough to be heard by, and di-
rected at, Anzel ("she wasn't exactly my most favorite
person at that point and I resented the whole thing very
much"). The only words she could specifically remem-
ber were "tramp" and "slut ." Neither Tjaden nor Nor-
denberg used any profane words and Nordenberg (who
was very calm during this episode) did not use the word
"asshole."
Epranian wrote the following letter, dated 14 July to
Nordenberg:
I had hoped to speak to you personally about this
matter, but since you refuse to meet with me with-
out an audience, I am left with no choice but to de-
liver this message by letter.
Back on July 1st, an incident occurred that re-
quired our writing a letter to Mr. Yearwood about
your conduct in dealing with management. At the
time, it was hoped this was an isolated incident and
would not reoccur. However, since then, 3 separate
and distinct further incidents have occurred plus
your own comments that leave us little reason to
conclude that this type of conduct will not be your
continuing modus operandi or to expect a change in
your ways.
Therefore, this is to serve clear notice that if
there is one more incident of your intruding on
management without appointment, interrupting or
interfering employees in the pursuit of their duties
without prior supervisory permission, or any abu-
sive and/or non-business like behavior and conduct,
you will be barred and declared persona non grata
from Medical Center premises thereafter.
We sincerely hope this final word of caution will
serve its purpose and it will not be necessary for us
to resort to such measures, but want to make it
clear and leave no room for any misunderstanding
on your part as to what the consequences will be if
you are involved in one more incident of this
matter.
He testified that the three incidents referred to in this
letter was an 8 July incident with Glenn Oehl, a 9 July
incident with Camel in the admitting office, and a 10
July incident involving Rick Sager.
C. 8 July Incident
Oehl, at the time, assistant director of housekeeping at
the Schneider Children's Hospital (a part of Respondent,
and connected to the main facility ) testified that on or
about 8 July, at or about 7:30 p.m., he and the depart-
ment's director, Donald Healy, were in his office issuing
a suspension notice to an employee. They told the em-
ployee to get a delegate to represent him regarding the
warning. The employee returned with Messina and Nor-
denberg. Healy told Nordenberg that it was not neces-
sary for him to be present and Nordenberg said that he
was in the building and wished to be present; Healy said
that he could stay. Nordenberg then introduced himself
to Oehl and Healy as the new organizer (they had not
previously met him). Healy and Oehl introduced them-
selves to Nordenberg, who pointed to Oehl and said to
him: "I've heard about you, we're going to deal with
you" (Oehl did not understand this statement , nor did
Nordenberg elaborate). Healy then explained that the
employee's suspension would be effective the following
week. Nordenberg said : "The employee is such a bad
employee you're going to suspend her, but she's good
enough to work the rest of the week . I'll be able to use
that against you." Later that evening, while Oehl was
giving an assignment to an employee, Nordenberg and
Messina walked by; Nordenberg said: "This schmuck is
gone." Oehl followed them into the laboratory area and
said: "If you wish to conduct yourself in a businesslike
manner I'd be more than happy to accommodate you;
you're starting off on the wrong foot ." Nordenberg said:
"You're into that business stuff, you're an asshole." Oehl
walked away. Oehl informed Healy of this incident, who
filed a report with Respondent's labor relations depart-
ment.
D. 9 July Incident
Rosemary Rochford , Respondent's assistant director of
admitting (Camel's assistant), testified that the first time
she met Nordenberg was at the beginning of July; at that
time she and Camel saw all the admitting clerks and one
man gathered around the front desk in the admitting
office. Camel asked who he was and he said he was
Nordenberg. Camel asked why he was there and he said
that he had permission from personnel . She said that he
did not ask her permission; he said that he did not need
her permission and he left-"there was no confronta-
tion." Camel reported the incident to the human re-
sources department . Camel testified that in the afternoon
on 9 July (while she was with Rochford) she noticed
that her "entire staff' was in the front of the office, near
the reception desk. With them was a man whom she did
not know (her employment with Respondent began on
17 March). Camel approached him and asked what he
was doing. He said that he was Nordenberg, the union
organizer, and he had the personnel department's permis-
sion to be there . She said that she did not give him au-
thorization to be there and he said that he did not need
her permission as he had permission from personnel.
Camel then called Buthe and informed her of the situa-
tion. Buthe told her to tell the employees to return to
work, that the meeting was unauthorized , and union
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access to her department required her approval. She told
the employees to return to work, which they did, and
Nordenberg left the department. She also informed the
employees that they were not to leave their work assign-
ments without her permission.
E. 10 July Incident
This incident involved Rick Sager, a night supervisor
for Respondent at the Schneider Children's facility.
Sager was not employed by Respondent at the time of
the hearing and the testimony supporting this incident
was hearsay testimony of Epranian, accepted, but not for
the truth of the statements. At or about 6 p.m. on that
day Sager was, in his office, aware that Nordenberg and
Yearwood were in the area investigating a holiday pay
grievance of an employee who worked under Sager's su-
pervision. Nordenberg and Yearwood were pounding on
Sager's office door (which was locked) and screaming
threats at him. He did not see them , but knowing that
they were in the area, and hearing the screaming he
knew it was them . Sager did not answer in order to
"avoid the confrontation "; they ultimately left and Sager
reported the incident to Buthe.
F. 25 July Incident
The testimony regarding this incident is supplied solely
by Camel; she testified that on the morning of 25 July
she informed employee Rhonda Mazzas that she would
be giving her a written warning at 2 p.m. that day, and
she suggested that she seek a union representative to be
with her. At 2 p.m. Mazzas told Camel that Tjaden was
to appear with her, but she could not locate him. Camel
put the meeting off until 4 p.m. that day; at that time
Mazzas came to her office with Tjaden and Nordenberg.
Camel said that she could have only one representative;
however, Mazzas could choose one of the two as her
representative and she would allow the other to remain
as a witness; Mazzas chose Tjaden as her representative.
She testified that during this discussion Nordenberg was
"very loud, rather nasty, obnoxious and rude"; he joined
with Tjaden in representing Mazzas by participating in
the conversation and asking questions. Camel could not
be more specific about this incident regarding what he
said or did that caused her to classify his actions as such.
G. 8 October Incident
This incident, and the one the following day, involve
the admitting department. This department (as the name
implies) is where the patients arrive, are interviewed and
processed in a cubicle where they give the clerk all the
required information (including their medical coverage,
if any), and, in turn, are given an armband and assigned a
room where they are subsequently taken by either an
employee of Respondent or a volunteer. Upon entering
the department there is a waiting area on the left con-
taining chairs and tables. To the right of the entrance
(across from the waiting area) is the reception desk.
There are two chairs on the other side of the reception
desk; the receptionists sit in these chairs-Lyla Karnbad
on the right (closest to the entrance) and Hedy McKen-
na on the left side, as you face them . Behind these chairs
are three chairs, usually occupied by volunteers . Walking
between the waiting area and the reception desk brings
you to a hallway with small cubicles (containing two or
three chairs and a desk with a computer ), on both sides,
offices, and a storage area. This hallway is 3 to 4 feet
wide and about 30 feet in length.
Numerous witnesses testified to the incidents of 8 and
9 October in the admitting office; there are some minor
differences in these versions (which is to be expected)
and some major differences, as well , necessitating some
credibility determinations.
Durham, an organizer with the Union since August,
testified that he entered the admitting office on 8 Octo-
ber, late in the morning, by himself. His purpose was to
speak to a particular employee in the department (whom
he never did locate) and to publicize the meeting sched-
uled for the next day. After walking into the department,
he spoke briefly with the receptionist and proceeded to
the hallway in the back. At that time, Camel approached
him and said : "Here comes another one." He asked what
she meant by that, but she did not answer; instead she
told him that he did not belong there and should leave.
He told her that he wanted to speak to one of the em-
ployees on union business ; Camel said that he had no
right to do so, and unless he left she would call securi-
ty.3 He said that she should do what she had to do, but
he had a contractual right to see members on union busi-
ness, when necessary. Durham then attempted to locate
the employee and observed Camel on the phone in her
office. As he was leaving he saw Camel behind him;
when he got to the reception area, a security guard met
him and told him that he should not give the department
head any trouble . Durham responded that she was trying
to give him a hard time. At that point he left the depart-
ment.
McKenna, a receptionist
employed by
Respondent
since September (and a union delegate in October), testi-
fied that she remembers very little of what occurred on 8
October; she saw Nordenberg and Durham enter the de-
partment and leave with a security officer of Respond-
ent; however, she did not speak to them, nor did she
overhear any interaction between Nordenberg , Durham,
and the security officer. Nordenberg testified that on 8
October he and Durham began the day together distrib-
uting notices of the following day's chapter meetings.
Sometime in the morning they split up. At or about 11
a.m. Nordenberg entered the admitting department. He
stopped at the reception desk, told Karnbad and McKen-
na that they should not forget the following day's meet-
ing, and gave each a leaflet in that regard . He then pro-
ceeded to the rear of the department; some cubicles had
employees with patients (he did not speak to, or give
leaflets to, these employees), some contained employees
(he gave leaflets to these employees and said "don't
forget the chapter meeting"), and some cubicles were
a On direct examination, he testified
"She told me to get out , I didn't
belong there . . . that I must leave the department right away
Fail-
ure to leave the department, she was going to call security to have me
put out." On cross-examination he testified - "She then started yelling,
'You have to get out , you don't belong in here, you have no right in here
and I'm-I'm going to call security to have you put out."'
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empty. As he was near the rear of the department, Roch-
ford said, "there he is again." He did not respond, but
Camel came out and told him that he could not be there;
unless he left she would call security . Nordenberg said,
"Go ahead." Nordenberg then began walking toward the
front of the department, gave out a few more leaflets,
and left.
Rochford testified that about 1:30 p.m. on 8 October
she saw Nordenberg in the corridor of the admitting
office; this was "an extremely busy day. We were down
two clerks sick, one clerk on vacation , people were out
to lunch." She first asked him: "Can I help you." He said
no and she then asked him : "Why are you here giving
out pamphlets? Have you permission from Wendy?" He
said that he did not need permission . She went to Camel
and told her: "Something has to be done . It's very busy.
I need the staff and he's here." Camel then went to Nor-
denberg and told him that he did not have her permis-
sion to be in the department; Nordenberg said : "Bullshit.
I don't need your permission. Screw you. You don't
know the contract." Camel called security and a security
officer arrived as Nordenberg was leaving ; as he was
leaving, he again said : "Screw you." The security officer
walked out with him . As he was leaving, Durham was
entering the department . Camel testified that at approxi-
mately 1:30 p.m. that day Rochford told her that Nor-
denberg was handing out literature and speaking to em-
ployees in the office and it was a very bad time for her
because the office was full of people; that she told Nor-
denberg that it was a bad time, but he said that he was
giving out leaflets and did not need her permission.
Camel left her office and told him that it was very busy,
,.now is not the time-it's really busy . . . and you don't
have my permission, please leave." Nordenberg immedi-
ately began yelling : "Tough shit, I don't need your per-
mission, I'm going to do what I want to do . . . screw
you-you don't know the contract." She said: "I do
know the contract; now is not the time to be here."
Camel then called security, and told them that she
needed a security officer because she had a problem in
the admitting department. She then walked out of her
office and saw that Nordenberg was walking toward the
front of the office . Just as he was about to leave a securi-
ty officer walked into the office and Nordenberg left the
office. About 5 minutes later, while she and Rochford
were in an office in the rear of the department , she ob-
served someone whom she did not know walking toward
the rear of the corridor . She asked him who he was and
what he was doing there. He said that he did not have to
explain anything to her. She said that she had the right
to know what was occurring in her department and to
question his presence. He then identified himself as
Durham and that he was there to notify the members of
a chapter meeting. She told him that it was a bad time
because it was very busy, but he ignored her and walked
toward the rear of the department. Camel called security
and when she left her office Durham was walking
toward the front . When he reached the front, Norden-
berg was in the corridor yelling : "You don't know the
contract-screw you, you're an asshole." At this point a
security officer arrived and Durham left the department
and he and Nordenberg left the area.
H. 9 October Incident
This was the final incident, "the straw that broke the
camel's back" in the view of Respondent , that caused it
to bar Nordenberg from its premises.
Nordenberg testified that on this day he entered the
admitting department with Durham about 11 a.m.; at the
time, two or three people were sitting in the waiting
area. Their purpose was, again, to distribute leaflets to
remind the employees of the chapter meetings beginning
that day at noon; both were carrying leaflets . They said
hello to Karnbad and McKenna ; McKenna asked if he
had permission to be there and Nordenberg said that he
had notified the personnel department when he entered
the facility. He told them not to forget the day's chapter
meetings and they said that they would be there. Nor-
denberg then began to walk down the corridor toward
the rear of the department . As he walked down the cor-
ridor he handed leaflets to those employees who were in
cubicles without patients, and told them not to forget
that day's chapter meetings. When he got to the very
rear of the department, Rochford said : "There he is
again." He did not respond and Rochford went into Car-
nel's office. Camel then came out of her office and told
him: "You can't be here and if you don't leave immedi-
ately I am going to call security." He told her: "Go
ahead . That's what you always say to me anyway." Nor-
denberg then began walking toward the reception area,
again giving leaflets to employees he saw along the way.
He then went to the reception desk (followed by Camel)
and told Karnbad and McKenna that he was going to
leave them leaflets to give to employees whom he had
missed. He had the leaflets in a box in his right hand; he
removed some leaflets from the box with his left hand
and went to hand them to McKenna . Before McKenna
had an opportunity to put the leaflets away, Camel
"grabbed" the leaflets with her left hand and with her
right hand "grabbed" Nordenberg's left arm, by the
bicep area : "She was nudging me more than holding me.
Pushing me." She was squeezing his arm-"very light-
ly." At the same time, she "nudged" him toward the
door. He took her hand and removed it from his arm and
said : "Don't touch me." She did not respond, and he left
the department. He believes that after Camel took the
leaflets from McKenna (who never actually had control
of them) they dropped to the desk . He testified that as he
was leaving the department one of Respondent 's security
officers was coming into the department. Later, when
the officer came into the hallway he told Nordenberg
that he should keep his hands to himself. Nordenberg
also testified that between the time he went to the rear
of the department , and the time he left, he was not cer-
tain where Durham was. During this period he did not
use any foul language nor did he raise his voice ; when he
"disengaged" Camel's hand from his arm she did not fall
to the ground, or fall against the reception desk.
Durham testified that after he and Nordenberg entered
the admitting office they said hello to Karnbad and
McKenna and told them that they would speak to them
on the way out . They then proceeded to the rear of the
department; there were two or three employees in the
reservation room and Durham began to tell them of the
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chapter meeting, but was interrupted by Camel, who
said : "Get out, you don't belong here. You have no right
here. I don't want you in my department ." Nordenberg
said that they were notifying employees of a chapter
meeting and had a right to be there. (He testified that he
did not know Rochford, so he does not know if she par-
ticipated in the incident.) Camel said that she was going
to call security to have them removed. Nordenberg said,
"That's what you generally do anyway." They handed
leaflets to a few more employees and began walking
toward the front of the department, Nordenberg, fol-
lowed by Camel, followed by Durham.4 As they got to
the reception area he saw a security guard preparing to
enter the department . While next to the reception desk,
but facing the door, Nordenberg said to McKenna:
"Give these to the workers we might have missed," and
attempted to place six or seven leaflets on the desk.
Camel, who was behind Nordenberg , "scooped" up the
leaflets5 with one hand and "grabbed him by the upper
part of his left arm, to push him out, to escort him out"
with the other arm, saying: "You can't leave these things
here." Nordenberg said , "Please don't put your hands on
me." Nordenberg moved his arm and shoulder and her
hand dropped to her side . They then left the department
with the security officer. During this incident, Camel did
not fall against the desk or onto the floor. He also testi-
fied that he did not hear Nordenberg use any profane or
vulgar language in the department.
Esta Fuchsberg, who has been a volunteer for Re-
spondent in the admitting department for 6 years, I day
a week (Thursdays), testified that she arrived in the de-
partment about 10:50 a.m. on 9 October. She sat in one
of the three chairs behind Karnbad and McKenna, but
could not remember which one. At the time , two people
were seated in the waiting area. The first time she saw
Nordenberg (either that day or anytime) was about 5
minutes later when she observed him and Camel walking
toward the reception desk from the corridor in the rear
of the department. She heard loud voices belonging to
Nordenberg and Camel (although she did not hear what
they were saying). When Nordenberg got to the recep-
tion desk he leaned over the counter to give leaflets to
McKenna, saying: "Leila, would you hand these out for
me?" Camel then reached over the reception desk,
pulled the leaflets out of McKenna's hand, and "shoved"
them back to Nordenberg . As to what happened to the
leaflets, she testified : "They were not on the floor, so I
imagine he took them ." Nordenberg then said : "Don't
push me" or "don't shove me" and he and Durham left.
She did not see Nordenberg push Camel , nor did she see
Camel fall to the floor or make contact with any object.
Karnbad, who has been employed by Respondent as a
receptionist in the admitting office for 16 years (and is a
member of the Union), testified that the incident in ques-
tion occurred shortly before 11 :30 a.m. At the time,
4 With Carpel , almost immediately, following Nordenberg, the question
arises
who called security' Durham testified "Her supervisor, Rose-
mary, I think her name is, called security ." However, as stated , supra, his
testimony is that he did not know who Rochford was
5 Durham originally testified that he did not see where Carpel placed
the leaflets, but "I know that the leaflets didn't go on the floor " He then
testified that she shoved them under Nordenberg's arm.
McKenna was sitting beside her and one volunteer,
Fuchsberg, was behind them. At that moment there were
two patients sitting in the waiting area . At that time,
while she was on the phone, she looked up and Norden-
berg came up to the reception desk (a little to her right)
with Durham to his right and Camel to his left. He
handed her "many" leaflets and asked her to distribute
them in order for the people to learn of the meetings.
Camel pulled the leaflets out of Karnbad 's hand with her
left hand saying : "Do not distribute this in my office";
some of the leaflets remained in her hand while others
fell to the floor. Camel handed the ones that remained in
her hand to Nordenberg, and "shoved" his shoulder with
her right hand, saying : "Get out of my office." He told
her not to touch him. He then shoved her-"exactly the
way she shoved him," but no part of her body moved,
and she did not fall as a result. Nordenberg and Durham
then left. She did not observe any security officer in the
department at the conclusion of this incident . McKenna
testified that Nordenberg and Durham came into the
office about 11 a.m. that day and came over to the re-
ception desk. There were one or two patients sitting in
the waiting area at the time . She asked Nordenberg if he
had permission to be there ("Because I knew they were
escorted out on October 8, because Wendy didn't want
them there") and he said that he had gotten authoriza-
tion
from personnel to be there .
Nordenberg and
Durham then walked to the back of the department; the
next time she either saw or heard them was a few min-
utes later when she looked up and saw Nordenberg in
front of the desk, on Karnbad's side of the desk; Camel
was beside Nordenberg (to his left, i .e., closer to McKen-
na) but not as close to the desk ; Durham was by the
door. Nordenberg asked Kambad if she could distribute
the leaflets and handed the leaflets to her.
Camel
"grabbed them out of Lyla's hand"; most of the leaflets
dropped to the floor, while some remained in Camel's
hand. Camel then
"pushed," "nudged," or "shoved"
Nordenberg's shoulder ("it wasn't a hard push") and told
him to get out of the office . Nordenberg said , "Don't
ever push me" and "he nudged her back" ("it was also a
light push"). Camel did not make contact with the re-
ception desk or fall to the ground after this contact. Nor-
denberg and Durham then left the department . She did
not hear Nordenberg use any profane or vulgar lan-
guage, nor did she see a security officer in the depart-
ment during the incident.
Caryll Batterman, who has been employed as an ad-
mitting clerk by Respondent for 8 years, testified that on
the morning in question she was sitting at her desk in
one of the cubicles off the corridor . Sometime during the
"middle of the Morning"
Nordenberg and Durham
walked by her office (heading toward the rear of the de-
partment) and said "hello, remember, there's a meeting
tonight" and handed her a leaflet. Rochford then walked
out of her office (which is across from Batterman's) and
(apparently) followed Nordenberg and Durham to the
rear of the corridor. She did not hear any discussion be-
tween Nordenberg and Rochford ; the first thing she
heard was Camel (in a "rapid and loud" voice) tell them
that they were not supposed to be in the office without
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her permission and they were disrupting the employees
and patients. Nordenberg said that he had a right to be
there ("He was very calm and very polite"). Within a
minute she saw Nordenberg and Camel walking past her
office toward the front of the department with Durham
behind them. Camel "continued to talk at him" in a loud
manner while Nordenberg "had a very casual gait and
walked very calmly." She never heard the word "ass-
hole" or any profanity used. After they passed her office
she did not hear or see anything further of what oc-
curred other than Camel repeating that they had to
leave the department.
Rochford testified that at about 11 a.m. on 9 October
she saw Nordenberg walking down the corridor speak-
ing to the employees. She said, "Gerry, here we go
again. Don't start." He said, "I am distributing leaflets. I
don't need permission from anyone." She said, " Please,
it's busy. Just leave the pamphlets at the front desk and
go. Don't start again." Camel then came out of her
office and said: "You don't have permission, why are
you here?" Nordenberg said, "Screw you, bullshit, tough
shit. I do what I want. Whenever I'm in this hospital I
will make it a point to come into this office." Rochford
then walked away to continue assigning beds "and Gerry
and Wendy were having this heated discussion." The
only thing she subsequently overheard was Nordenberg
calling Camel an "asshole."
Camel testified that about 11 a.m. on that day while
she was at her desk she heard Rochford ask Nordenberg
to leave his leaflets at the reception desk; Nordenberg
answered that he was not disrupting the office. Camel
then called security and asked them to send an officer to
assist with an occurrence in the department. Camel then
walked out of her office and said : "Please, Gerry, just
leave, now is not the time, it's busy now" and he said:
"Bullshit, I don't need your permission ." He also said
that he would make a point of coming to the admitting
department whenever he was at the facility. "I was
trying to sort of walk to the front to lead him out of the
door because security had not arrived," and as they were
walking Nordenberg stuck his head into each cubicle
containing an employee and spoke to the employees.
When they got to the reception desk (she testified that,
at the time, 8 to 10 people were seated in the waiting
area) she asked him to leave the leaflets on the desk and
he said to Karnbad: "Please hand out the pamphlets."
Camel understood this to mean that Karnbad would im-
mediately begin distributing the leaflets and because it
was very busy in the department and the phones were
ringing, Camel decided to take the leaflets. Nordenberg
went to hand them to Karnbad, but when Camel
reached for the leaflets he lifted up his arm high so that
Camel could not reach them (he is taller than she).
While she was attempting to take the leaflets out of his
right hand, he was using his left hand "sort of like block-
ing me" and she "brushed" into his left arm.e At this
6In her report concerning this incident filed with Respondent she
wrote, "I reached over the front desk to take them from him and in so
doing brushed his arm."
time he opened his right hand and the leaflets fell to the
floor ("he like deliberately opened his hand"). Norden-
berg then said : "Don't push me" and "with that he turns
around and puts his right arm on my right shoulder and
pushes me and when he pushed me I fell into the recep-
tion desk." Her left rib cage hit the reception desk. The
security guard, who was in the area during this immedi-
ate incident, then stepped in and spoke to Nordenberg
and Camel walked away. She then reported this incident
to the personnel and security departments and went to
Respondent's employee health service because her ribs
felt sore; after leaving health service, she returned to
work.
Harry Siegel, who has been employed by Respondent
as a security officer for 7 years, testified that shortly
before 11 a.m. on 9 October his sargeant told him to in-
vestigate a disturbance in the admitting department. He
immediately proceeded to the
admitting
department,
which is about 25 yards from where he was then sta-
tioned-the security office. When he entered the office
he observed about six people seated in the waiting area;
Nordenberg and Camel were in the corridor in the rear
of the department walking toward the front. There was
loud talking-"predominantly
Mr. Nordenberg,"
who
said that he wanted to distribute leaflets; Camel replied
that he should give them to her and she would see to it
that they were distributed. He said that he had permis-
sion and could come into the department any time he
wanted and said : "You're full of shit and I can do what I
please." Siegel walked toward the rear of the department
and met up with Nordenberg and Camel about three-
quarters of the way into the corridor (they were walking
slowly). He stayed in front of them, walking backwards
and observing them as they walked toward the front. On
the way, Nordenberg handed leaflets to employees in
two of the cubicles. When they got to the reception desk
Nordenberg and Camel were facing each other, Camel
to his right and Nordenberg to her right facing the desk.
Camel again asked him to give her the leaflets and she
would have them distributed. Nordenberg then raised his
hand with the leaflets and attempted to give them to
Karnbad or McKenna, saying: "Please distribute these
leaflets." Camel (who, like Nordenberg, was inches
away from the reception desk) reached over to get the
leaflets, again telling him that she would have them dis-
tributed. Nordenberg then opened his hand and the leaf-
lets fell-some in front of the desk, some behind, and
some on the desk. Nordenberg then said to Camel:
"Don't push me [or touch me] you dumb asshole,"
placed his hand on her shoulder, and "lightly pushed
her," causing her to fall down, against the reception
desk. He immediately ushered Nordenberg and Durham
out of the office; as they were leaving he said to Norden-
berg: "You never put your hands on anybody, you
schmuck."
H. The Decision to Bar Nordenberg from the Premises
By letter dated 22 July, Paul Davin, Respondent's
labor relations supervisor , wrote to Nordenberg:
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When I approached you in the cafeteria in the
Levitt Building (400 Lakeville Rd.), on Thursday,
July 16, 1986, I was seeking to clarify why it had
become necessary for you to hold a Chapter Meet-
ing in the cafeteria when room accommodations
had been provided (room 240) for this same purpose
from 12:00 noon-1:00 PM.
You initially refused to speak with me and direct-
ed me to leave! Rather than responding in a courte-
ous manner by explaining the situation , which had
occurred due to an oversight on your part, you pro-
ceeded to act in a totally unprofessional mariner.
Your manner of responding to my request for clari-
fication was totally inappropriate and uncalled-for.
It has also been reported to me that on Thursday,
July 17, 1986, you entered the work area of several
dietary employees without prior notice or permis-
sion and had to be reminded of your obligation to
obtain such permission.
This situation, as well as other recent reports
from management, and including your own state-
ments, reflect a total misunderstanding of your
rights and obligations regarding access to employ-
ees.
On the belief that your newness in office and
your unfamiliarity with our procedures may have
contributed to your misunderstanding, we will over-
look the more recent minor situation noted above.
However, I must urge you to deport yourself in a
professional manner and comply with the visitation
provision of the Collective Bargaining Agreement
(Article V, section 2) [sic] since further forbearance
will not be given.
I truly hope that there will be no further prob-
lems in this regard (as noted in paragraph #3 of Mr.
Epranian's letter dated July 14, 1986, attached), be-
cause we will have no alternative but to bar you
from Medical Center premises thereafter.
By letter dated 29 August,' Epranian wrote to Norden-
berg:
In light of the numerous incidents and prior com-
munications that have taken place in the past few
weeks, we want to clearly set forth our position re-
garding Union access to employees on our premises
so that there is no room for any future misunder-
standing on the Union's part in this regard.
We recognize that the Union has the right to
confer with employees on premises and to carry on
normal Union business, which will not be unreason-
ably denied or withheld. However, it is essential
that this right is exercised by organizers and dele-
gates alike in a businesslike and orderly manner at
all times so as to not interfere with the operations of
the Medical Center, which is exclusively a supervi-
sory determination.
° This letter is more relevant to, and will be discussed, infra, in the al-
legations regarding unilateral changes in Respondent's visitorial policy
The events leading to the beginnng portion of Davin's 22 July letter will
be discussed separately, infra
Toward that end, we require that any Union rep-
resentative must request and obtain supervisory per-
mission before conferring with any employee during
their working hours, and expect this simple proce-
dure to be honored out of common courtesy alone
let alone the obligation to respect our managerial
rights. This is a long standing and well established
procedure, and nothing new.
We are notifying our management of this com-
munication and reminding them of their rights and
steps to take in the event you or any Union repre-
sentative fails to cooperate in this manner.
We truly hope that such will not be the case and
we will not experience further difficulties in this
regard in the future so that Union communications
with employees regarding legitimate Union business
matters can be continued without disruption in the
work place. [Emphasis supplied.]
Epranian testified that between 1 and 14 July there
were numerous discussions among himself, Forman,
Schoenholz, Respondent's senior vice president, and Dr.
R. K. Match, Respondent's president, regarding the inci-
dents involving Nordenberg: ". . . all the parties .. .
were very much aware of the ongoing problems and
concerns that-starting in the beginning of July." Epran-
ian testified:
There were discussions prior to my letter of July
14th. I didn't initiate and put that out on my-total-
ly on my own authority.
Clearly, on the basis of what happened on the 1st
and then what appeared to be a continuing set of
circumstances, we felt that we'd better get it on the
record that this could be a consequence , that we-
frankly, it's like anything else. It was important,
technically, to get it on the record and secondly,
we hoped it might bring it to an end.
As to why, Respondent finally determined on 9 October
to bar Nordenberg from the premises, Epranian testified:
Well, I think in essence it was-there had been a
long string of incidents, rather obvious and apparent
pursuit of unwillingness to cooperate , comply, try
to work out any kind of reasonable arrangement,
but more important than anything else, there had
now been two personal physical encounters and
when the second one occurred on the 9th, it was
deemed and viewed as the straw that broke the
camel's back and we were left with really no alter-
native.
As some of the documents have shown , an earlier
letter had said one more incident . Well, there had
been one more incident. We were loathe to take
that step . We were in a very difficult time , with re-
newal negotiations going on.
Sensitivities were heightened. It was a difficult
time for both sides and to take a step like this was
bound to be a major cause celebre. We didn't want
to do it but we could just no longer ignore a second
incident of physical and verbal abuse and the deci-
sion was he brought it on himself, there's nothing
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further we can do and we can't overlook this one,
which is two of them now. And that's the basis on
which it was decided that he personally could no
longer abide with his presence on the premises.8
1. Nordenberg's Arrest
Nordenberg was arrested by two New York City po-
licemen in Respondent's cafeteria
(while sitting
with
some delegates and employees of Respondent ) about 4:30
p.m. on 9 October. He testified that after leaving the ad-
mitting department he continued distributing leaflets for
that day's meetings . About 12:15 p.m., on the way to a
meeting, he met Eugene Biegel and Micahel Giovanello,
Respondent's director and assistant director of security.
Giovanello told him that they were informed by person-
nel that he was persona non grata, and unless he left the
building he would be arrested. Nordenberg said that he
did not understand what the problem was and Giovan-
ello told him that it was the incident that morning with
Camel. After some telephone calls (to personnel and the
Union) Nordenberg left the building, escorted by Gio-
vanello and Biegel . Later that afternoon, at or about
3:30, Nordenberg re-entered Respondent's cafeteria with
Yearwood. Shortly thereafter, they were met by Biegel
and Giovanello who accompanied them to the main
lobby, where Yearwood met with Biegel. At the conclu-
sion of this meeting, Yearwood told Nordenberg to leave
the facility, which he did. However, after leaving the
lobby, he walked directly into the Respondent's cafete-
ria, again, speaking with four or five of Respondent's
employees. Shortly thereafter, upon a complaint filed by
Respondent, Nordenberg was arrested and escorted out
of the building.9 Since that date he has not acted in a
union capacity at Respondent's facility.
Biegel and Giovanello also testified to events preced-
ing Nordenberg's arrest. Briefly, they were informed of
the incident involving Camel and were told to locate
him, and if he was still on the premises to have him re-
moved. They located him shortly before noon, told him
of their orders, and that if he had any questions he
should call Epranian later in the day. Biegel let him use
the phone in his office and, at the conclusion of these
calls, he left the building. At or about 3:30 p.m. that day,
Biegel was informed that Nordenberg and Yearwood
were in the building; he and Giovanello located them
and told that them that Nordenberg had to leave the
building; refusal to do so could lead to his arrest for tres-
passing. Yearwood said that if they arrested Nordenberg
they would have to arrest him as well. Nordenberg and
Yearwood then walked to the main lobby of Respond-
ent's facility, followed by Biegel and Giovanello. After a
commotion and, a threatened walkout by Yearwood, the
police officers arrived, but by this time Nordenberg was
no longer in the lobby . A few minutes later Biegel re-
ceived a call that Nordenberg was in the cafeteria. At his
request, the police officers accompanied him to the cafe-
teria where they observed Nordenberg sitting at a table
a There is no allegation that Respondent similarly barred any other
agent of the Union
9 This arrest was pursuant to a trespass charge filed by Respondent
Nordenberg was acquitted of these charges on 5 January 1988
with Tjaden and two or three other delegates . Biegel
asked the officer to place Nordenberg under arrest for
criminal trespass and disorderly conduct which , eventu-
ally, he did.
By letter to Johnson, dated 10 October, Forman
wrote:
This is to formally confirm that Mr. Nordenberg
has been barred and declared persona non grata
from Medical Center premises indefinitely.
When
Mr. Nordenberg refused to leave and remain off our
premises, it became necessary to have him removed
under police arrest. Charges have been filed against
Mr. Nordenberg for criminal trespass and disorderly
conduct. This step became necessary as a result of
Mr. Nordenberg once again resorting to reprehensi-
ble personal misconduct and unprofessional behav-
ior in his dealings with members of our manage-
ment staff. To be more specific , his actions tran-
scended just violating proper procedure in the con-
duct of his duties, but reached the proportions of
physical harassment and verbal abuse of one of our
managers in the presence of patients and visitors.
Appropriate
criminal charges are being pursued
against Mr. Nordenberg in this regard also.
As you are well aware from our numerous past
communications over prior problems of this kind
with Mr. Nordenberg, we repeatedly made it clear
what the consequences would be if such misconduct
were to reoccur, leaving us no alternative but to
take these measures when it did.
Mr. Nordenberg is no longer permitted or wel-
come anywhere on Medical Center premises and
will not be recognized nor dealt with as a Union
representative in any capacity .
Accordingly,
we
shall await formal notice of any replacement ar-
rangements the Union may desire to make.
By memorandum of the same date, Epranian wrote
(inter alia) to the staff (from administrative staff to super-
visors):
Yesterday, Mr. Gerard Nordenberg, Local 1199
Organizer,
was banned and escorted from our
premise for a major repetition of reprehensible per-
sonal and physical misconduct and behavior in his
dealings with one of our management staff. A simi-
lar incident
with another manager occurred a
couple of months ago that we believed had been ad-
dressed without need for direct action , and would
not happen again. Mr. Nordenberg and the Union
were clearly put on notice at the time what the con-
sequence would be if it were to reoccur. Unfortu-
nately, our confidence was misplaced , and it did re-
occur yesterday.
To make matters even worse, Mr. Nordenberg
reappeared on our premises later in the day yester-
day with the presence and support of a Union Offi-
cer, and repeatedly refused to leave, ultimately re-
quiring police arrest to remove him. Appropriate
criminal charges have been filed and are being pur-
sued.
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So it is clear to all management personnel, Mr.
Nordenberg is barred and not permitted anywhere
on Medical Center property, and is not to be recog-
nized or dealt with as a Union representative in any
capacity effective as of yesterday ! If he attempts to
do so, he should be directed to leave, and Security
and this office notified immediately. The Union has
been officially notified in this regard.
It is unfortunate such extreme measures became
necessary. However, it is even more important that
all employees fully understand that proper and ap-
propriate standards of personal conduct and behav-
ior are observed and followed by all persons in the
pursuit of their business on our premises, and any-
thing short of that is not acceptable and will not be
tolerated . We hope this quick report will dispel and
quiet any rumors or misinformation that may have
already reach you. [sic]
IV. THE ALLEGED UNILATERAL CHANGE
This allegation refers to Epranian's 29 August letter to
Nordenberg, Durham, Yearwood, and Messina (quoted,
supra) and its subsequent enforcement . The critical por-
tion of this letter states: "we require that any union rep-
resentative must request and obtain supervisory permission
before conferring with any employee during their work-
ing hours." (Emphasis added.) The General Counsel and
Charging Party allege that this represents a change (not
bargained about) from the contract and pastpractice. Re-
spondent's position, as stated in this letter: "This is a
longstanding and well-established procedure, and nothing
new."
General Counsel's principal witness regarding this alle-
gation was Phylis Mushkin, who was an administrator
organizer for the Union from 1974 until January 1984.
As part of this position, she was responsible for the facil-
ity from 1974 through mid- 1982; she remained at the fa-
cility for a few more months to train her successor. In
addition, received into evidence was an exchange of let-
ters between Respondent and the Union. By letter dated
13 April 1982, Forman wrote (inter alia) to Union Vice
Presidents Arlene Ezratty and Edward Kay (with a copy
to Mushkin and other organizers):
Since the middle of last week, I have made re-
peated attempts to speak with you concerning cer-
tain issues regarding the rights of delegates and
union organizers in addressing legitimate union busi-
ness interests and in effectively utilizing the griev-
ance procedure. In view of the absence of any re-
sponse, I have, therefore, no alternative but to out-
line our concerns in writing and advise you of the
adherence to the contract provisions that we hence-
forth will require of all employees in the bargaining
unit and all union officials . These provisions will be
expected to be met at any and all facilities of the
Long Island Jewish-Hillside Medical Center.
1. Employees, be they a delegate or not, will be
permitted to engage
in
Union activity during
normal working hours only with the prior approval
of the employee's immediate supervisor. Should an
employee absent himself/herself from his/her work
without first obtaining permission he/she will not
be paid for such time and will be subject to discipli-
nary action. This provision is necessary in order for
management to properly operate the hospital and is
provided for in the contract in Article V, Para-
graphs 1 and 2.
2. Should union officials (who are not employees
of the Medical Center) wish to meet or confer with
either an employee in the bargaining unit or a
member of the management staff during normal
working hours or at any time in other than non-pa-
tient, non-work areas, it will be necessary to first
obtain approval from my office. Article V, Para-
graph 2 envisioned this occurrence and clearly pro-
vides a framework for its implementaton . It is not
disputed that the union has a right to confer with its
members as well as with management concerning its
members and to carry on normal union business,
nor is it our seeking to establish a process that is
reasonable and orderly so as not to interfere with
the operations of the Center. To that end we will
make suitable space available that will be accessible
to employees which you and other union officials
may use to carry on your normal daily business.
We are desirous of re-establishing a meaningful
working relationship between the management of
the Medical Center and the Union leadership with
all the rights and respect to which each party is en-
titled. We believe that the contract provisions that I
referred to provide the framework within which
this can be accomplished.
I will be available to discuss the implementation
of these provisions at your convenience should you
be desirous of doing so.
By letter dated 19 April 1982, Ezratty and Kay wrote
Forman, inter alia:
We were surprised to hear from you that you
had been attempting to reach us without success.
We were both in LIJ all day Tuesday, April 6,
Wednesday, April 7 and Thursday, April 8. On
Friday, Saturday and Sunday the Union was closed
and on Monday and Tuesday, April 12 and 13 we
were out of town and had you actually called you
would have known these facts.
As to the substance of your letter, your interpre-
tation of the Union Activity clause is wrong. Not
only does the contract not require prior approval; it
doesn't require any approval of supervisors or any
other personnel of the Hospital. We have had con-
tracts with LIJ for the past 19 years and never have
we been faced with an interpretation of our con-
tract that flies in the face of all our history here.
Dr. Match insisted during the negotiations to
settle the strike that "no retribution" shall be one of
the terms of the agreement.
We view your letter dated April 13, 1982 as an
act of retribution and a deliberate attempt on the
part of the Hospital to intimidate and punish the
Union members for striking at LIJ. Unless you re-
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scind the letter, we will take any and all appropriate
action against the hospital.
Mushkin testified that for the 8-month period following
Forman's letter (her responsibility for Respondent ceased
in 1982) she never followed the dictates set forth in his
letter. However, the Union never took any legal action
(lawsuit, unfair labor practice charge, or . grievance) in
this regard, because:
We wouldn't stand for it, what he put down in
that letter was entirely against the policy at Long
Island Jewish as far as the union was concerned,
and we wouldn't stand for it. We made it very well
known that we wouldn't.
She testified that she and the delegates informed the Re-
spondent's administrators, including Dr. Match , that this
was not the procedure, although she could not testify
specifically when and what they were told (considering
it occurred 5 years prior to her testimony this is not sur-
prising).
Mushkin testified, basically, to having complete free-
dom of the facility in distributing literature or speaking
to employees. When she began working for the Union
she was told : "Announce your presence and go see your
members to make sure the contract is enforced." Upon
entering the facility, she called the personnel department
and said : "I'm here." She testified : "Usually, I'd say that,
announce my presence." She would then (for the distri-
bution of literature) begin at the top floor and distribute
literature to employees in each department until she cov-
ered all departments represented by the Union . Prior to
distributing literature in a particular department (includ-
ing the admitting department) she never requested per-
mission from the department head , and during this period
her access to the departments to distribute literature was
never questioned .
When she entered departments to
speak to employees her procedure was the same. She
never asked a department head for permission to speak
to the employee; if she saw the supervisor she would say
hello (she testified that she sometimes told the supervisor
whom she wanted to speak to) and then met with the
employee; these meetings usually lasted about 10 min-
utes. Mushkin also testified that, in addition to the usual
departments, she distributed literature in patients' rooms,
in I.C.U. (Intensive Care Unit), C.C.U. (Cardiac Care
Unit), and operating rooms . As to the operating rooms,
she testified: "Well, actually, I went right up to the door
and whoever was walking in and out took them in .. .
[I] didn't go right into surgery, but just about though."
In patient's rooms she walked in briefly, handed the liter-
ature to the employee, and left. In the I.C.U. and C.C.U.
she gave the literature to the nurses who were at desks
watching patient's monitors. If she had to go into sterile
areas she put on a cap, gown, and mask and distributed
the literature in that manner . No supervisor in those de-
partments ever told her that she was not permitted there
or needed a supervisor's prior permission to be there.
She testified that she had "total unrestricted access" to
anywhere she wanted to go at the facility and that she
had the right to take employees out of their work area
during working time to discuss union business, all with-
out anyone's prior approval . Only on one or two occa-
sions did a supervisor ask her to leave a department:
One or two may have said it in the course of the
years, you can't be here, or you have to ask my
permission and I read them the contract and I said
I'm telling you I'm here, and I was there, and they
didn't say another word after that . I stayed.
Mushkin further testified that sometime during her stay
at Respondent's facility (she could not be specific about
when) she told Forman : "I will call you whenever I'm in
the building . . . and he said okay."
Finally, Mushkin testified that she followed the leaflet-
ing procedure, on occasion, with Nordenberg . She testi-
fied that he originally was employed by the Union as an
organizer and later, while employed by Respondent, was
a delegate. In both classifications , he distributed litera-
ture with her. Her testimony is unclear , however, re-
garding the period that he assisted her.
Nordenberg testified that while he was a delegate
during his employment with Respondent he worked with
a few organizers, principally Mushkin and Stan Israel be-
tween about 1981 and 1986 . Their principal activity was
to circulate through the facility to distribute literature;
an additional reason for being at the facility was to inter-
view grievants. He accompanied Mushkin and Israel
throughout the facility ; they distributed literature in
every area of the facility except I .C.U., C.C.U., the oper-
ating rooms, and the psychiatric areas. The procedure
they followed never changed during this period and was
the same for all departments , except for those referred to
above : they entered the departments , distributed the liter-
ature to the employees, and left. For the distribution of
literature, they did not speak to the department heads
prior to the distribution . However, when their purpose
was to interview a grievant, they would initially inform
the department head that they would like to interview
the employee; when he or she approved they spoke to
the employee.
Upon becoming an organizer for the Union in 1986,
Nordenberg was never formally instructed on how to
gain access to Respondent's facilities; the procedure he
followed was the same as Mushkin and Israel followed;
he entered through the facilities' main entrance; he used
the telephone in the lobby to call Respondent's personnel
department. "Generally, I spoke to Martha . . . very
simply, I would say: 'Hi, Martha' we had a fairly good
relationship,
'I'm in the building'; She'd say 'Fine,
thanks.' That was it." On occasion, other of Epranian's
secretaries would answer, or, on occasion, Buthe, Davin,
or Epranian, himself. No matter who answered the
phone in the personnel department , Nordenberg said
"virtually the same thing," and he was never told that he
could not enter the facility or a department . This was the
procedure he followed on 9 October as well . He testified
that he followed this procedure because it was mandated
by article V, section 2 of the Agreement; more particu-
larly, where it states:
Where the Union representative finds it necessary
to enter a department of the Employer for this pur-
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pose, he/she shall first advise the personnel office
or the head of the department ... .
For the distribution of literature, he entered the depart-
ment (with the exception of the departments referred to,
supra) distributed the literature to the employees, and
left; he did this on about seven occasions between July
and 9 October. When he wanted to speak to a grievant
or an employee for a specific reason , "I would ask the
supervisor if I could see that person . I would tell them
that I was taking the person out for a few minutes." He
testified that Camel was the only department head who
questioned his right to be in the department to distribute
literature; he later testified that the director of the die-
tary department told him that he had no right to be in
her department and he needed her prior permission to be
there. On a few occasions , when he asked the depart-
ment head for permission to speak to an employee, he or
she told him: "It's very busy right now. Could you come
back?" And he did return at a subsequent time.
Martha Lardner has been employed by Respondent as
a clerk in its labor relations department since 1984. Her
primary duty is to schedule meeting dates, as well as ar-
bitrations and grievances, and answering the phone.
Prior to July she never received phone calls from orga-
nizers telling her that they were at the facility . In July
"Mr. Nordenberg called and said he was on the prem-
ises, but I didn't understand why he was calling me." On
either this occasion, or the next, she said : "Well, I'm just
a clerk, why are you telling me this?" He did not re-
spond. She reported this incident to Davin and Epranian,
but they also did not understand why he called her.
After that he called her many times, saying : "I am on the
premises" and she said : "Thank you for calling." Epran-
ian testified that about early July Lardner told him that
she had received a telephone call from Nordenberg ad-
vising her that he was on the premises; she asked what
she should do about it . Epranian, who had never previ-
ously heard of such a call, said that she should not do
anything about it. Lardner asked what she should do if
he called again; Epranian said that she should just say:
"Thank you for advising us." Within a week or two of
this conversation with Lardner, Epranian asked Norden-
berg what the call was about, he said : "I'm advising you
that I'm on the premises." Epranian said that such a call
was not necessary, that he still needed the department
head's approval to be in the department.
Durham, who has been an organizer for the Union
since August, testified that his interpretation of the
Agreement is that upon entering the facility the organiz-
er can notify the personnel department to tell them
where he is going in the facility or notify the supervisor
that he's in the department . As to whom he generally no-
tified in the personnel department, he testified : "I gener-
ally don't." Ezratty became an organizer for the Union
responsible for Respondent's facility in 1967; she became
a vice president for the Union in 1972 and from that time
until mid-1983, with the assistance of an organizer (or or-
ganizers) under her supervision she continued her re-
sponsibility for the Respondent's facility. She testified
that she began distributing notices and leaflets through-
out the facility in about 1967; it usually took her a day or
more to cover the entire facility . In doing this, she went
into all the facility's departments, except the operating
rooms (because Respondent's rules required people to
wear scrubs when present in the operating room) and
rooms where patients were being X-rayed. In addition,
beginning in mid-1982 she trained Tom Lapis to be the
organizer who was replacing Mushkin . On at least three
occasions in the following 6-month period she accompa-
nied Lapis through the facility distributing membership
meeting notices; they began on the ninth floor of the fa-
cility, distributed their way down to the first floor (in-
cluding the admitting department), and then went to Re-
spondent's physically separated administration building
(the Levitt Building). Prior to distributing the literature,
neither she nor Lapis requested permission from the su-
pervisors or department heads.
Batterman, who has been employed by Respondent in
the admitting department since 1979 , testified that she
has been given union literature in the department by
Kay, Ezratty, and Mushkin : "It was really not an unusu-
al thing to see her or to see Eddie Kay."
In defense of this allegation, Respondent produced nu-
merous supervisors and department heads to testify about
their experiences with distributions and visits by organiz-
ers in their departments . Anzel testified that shortly after
she was hired by Respondent in June 1986 she had a
meeting with
Epranian, Buthe, and Davin regarding
labor relations procedures . She was told that when an
organizer wanted to speak to an employee he or she had
to first obtain the permission of the supervisor; "if at all
possible" the employee should be given a few minutes
off to confer with the organizer . The rule was the same
for distribution of literature. Geiger testified that some-
time after he became a supervisor for Respondent (late
1982) he was informed by Anzel 's predecessor that orga-
nizers had to request permission before entering the de-
partment, but they should not be denied access to their
members, and if the employee was available and not en-
gaged in "patient care work," he or she should be al-
lowed to speak to the organizer . In practice, organizers
came to the department about once a month and asked
him or one of the other supervisors if he or she could
speak to a particular employee. The supervisor then
went to see if the employee was available or too busy to
meet at that time. "Very infrequently" (perhaps once or
twice) he denied an organizer's request to speak to an
employee because the employee was performing some
task that could not be interrupted. He testified that he
never observed an organizer distributing leaflets in the
laboratory, although he did see union leaflets on the bul-
letin board and a counter in the department. Oehl testi-
fied that at a supervisory meeting in December 1983 or
January 1984 the director of Respondent's housekeeping
department said that if a union organizer or delegate
wished to distribute literature, or speak to an employee
in the department he or she had to first request permis-
sion from the supervisor. From that time until July 1, he
never observed an organizer distributing literature in the
working areas of the housekeeping department. About
late 1985 or early 1986 Union Organizer Colin Copeland
asked his permission to speak to an employee ; he granted
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the permission. The first time he was given anything in
writing by Respondent regarding this policy was in the
fall of 1986-presumably a memorandum dated 2 Sep-
tember from Epranian to the administrative staff, depart-
ment heads and supervisors of all divisions, entitled:
"Union Access to Employees." It states:
As emphasized at our recent department manage-
ment meetings, we have good reason for serious
concern and to expect continued difficulty in the
Union's conduct of business with employees in the
work place.
As such, we have notified the Union organizers
of expected procedure to retain our continued coop-
eration in this regard.
To repeat, the ground rules are simple-the
Union does have the right to confer with employees
on our premises. However, Union organizers and
delegates alike must request and obtain supervisory
permission before conferring with employees during
their working hours. Such permission and access to
employees should not be permitted to disrupt or
interfere with orderly operations and must be con-
ducted in a businesslike manner at all times, but oth-
erwise should not be unreasonably denied or withheld.
If at any time the Union fails to abide by the
guidelines set forth, the procedure outlined below
should be followed as applicable:
1. Deny the request.
2. Direct employees back to work as applicable.
3. Be prepared to advise employees that disci-
pline will follow for any lack of compliance.
4. Ask the Union organizer or delegate to leave,
and if necessary have them removed by Security.
5. Report any such incidents immediately to
Labor Relations.
Obviously, feel free to call on us for assistance at
any time.
We hope it will not be necessary for you to have
to invoke these measures, but want you to be pre-
pared in such event, and trust you find them help-
ful.
Ethel Schwam has been Respondent 's director of di-
etetics since about
1971. The department has approxi-
mately 166 employees in classifications such as dietary
employees, cooks, and cashiers (for the cafeteria), etc.
Approximately 148 of these employees are members of
the Union. She testified that the policy she always fol-
lowed was that if union organizers wanted to come into
her department to distribute literature or speak to em-
ployees in the department they had to first obtain her
permission. Her determination was based on the amount
of time requested by the organizers and the immediate
needs of the department. In her experience , the organiz-
ers followed this procedure about 80 percent of the time.
When organizers appeared in her department without
previously obtaining her permission she asked them to
leave, and they did so. Colin Copeland was the only or-
ganizer whom she observed distributing literature in her
department; because he had not received her permission
to do so, she did not permit him to distribute the litera-
ture. The first time she saw Nordenberg (although she
did not know who he was at the time) was on 17 July; at
that time she saw him talking to two cooks and a utility
aide. She approached them and introduced herself, as did
he. She asked him if he would accompany her to her
office as there was something she wanted to discuss with
him; he said he would not. She said that it would only
take a few minutes and she would appreciate it; he said
that if she wanted to say anything to him she should say
it in front of the members. She said: "Well, in that event
Mr. Nordenberg, I have to inform you that you do not
have the permission to come into my department without
seeking the permission of myself or of one of my super-
visors." He answered that he did not need permission
and that she did not know what was in the contract. She
said: "I certainly did know what was in the contract"
and he left the department; Nordenberg was polite
during this incident and did not raise his voice. She re-
ported this incident to Davin. In addition, on one occa-
sion she had a situation with Copeland that she reported
to personnel; she observed him talking to some of her
employees in the department; she reminded him of the
hospital policy and he said that it would take only a few
minutes. She said that it was a very busy time; he asked
if he could meet with the employees after the lunch meal
and she said that he could. She reported this incident to
Epranian.
Rochford testified that when she was promoted from a
unit position to her supervisory position in 1982 Carnel's
predecessor instructed her on the rules: "I was carefully
briefed in the changing of the hat, that now I was man-
agement and organizers, delegates had to have permis-
sion from the supervisor before they could disturb the
office." Prior to 8 October she never saw a union orga-
nizer distributing literature in the admitting department.
The first written instructions she was given in this regard
was Epranian's 2 September memorandum.
Pamela Herman has been employed by Respondent
since 1977, initially as a unit receptionist, a union posi-
tion. Since that time she has worked her way up the ad-
ministrative ladder and in January 1984 she became as-
sistant manager of the out-patient department at Re-
spondent's Children's Hospital; the following year she
became manager of the department, also called consulta-
tion and diagnostic service. During this entire period she
never saw an organizer distributing literature in her
units. She testified that at a department head's meeting
sometime after October 1985 the facility's administrator
told them ("reiterated the policy as I knew it . . . it was
just something that we were aware of") that union orga-
nizers needed prior permission from the supervisors or
department heads before coming into the department. On
one occasion Copeland told her (when she was assistant
manager) that he had the approval of the manager to see
an employee. Because of that she allowed the meeting.
In addition, in about January, organizer John Spearman
was in her department for a meeting with her staff. She
told him that he had not secured or requested permission
to meet with the staff during worktime and it was a bad
time so he had to leave, and he did so.
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Sylvia Otto, who is employed by Respondent as direc-
tor of housekeeping at its Hillside Division (physically
separate from the facility) testified that at the meeting of
the Hillside Division's department heads in about 1983
they were told by a representative of Respondent's
human resources department that union organizers
needed permission of department heads before entering a
department. Otto informed the supervisors in her depart-
ment of the policy and told them that if it was violated
they should report it to her. To her knowledge, no union
organizer has entered her department without permis-
sion.
Urice Schlesinger was originally employed by Re-
spondent as an operating room (OR) technician (assisting
in surgery) in 1970; in 1987 she became supervisor of the
central sterile area, which sterilizes equipment for all
areas of Respondent's operation . The department has 55
employees, 12 of whom she directly supervises on the
day shift . While an OR technician she was a member of
the Union and a delegate for 4 years (two terms of 2
years each) from the period 1975 through 1982. She testi-
fied that when she first became a union delegate in 1975
Ezratty taught her along with other delegates (in a "mini
course") how to act as a delegate. She told them that
they were not to distribute literature in other depart-
ments during working hours. While she was a delegate,
her supervisor gave her the union leaflets that had ar-
rived in the department via an interoffice envelope.
While employed as an or technician she has seen union
organizers (principally Mushkin) in a lobby area ("out-
side
of the actual working area-actual
operating
rooms") but never in the operating rooms themselves;
she does not know whether they had previously obtained
permission to be there . During this period she never ob-
served an organizer distributing literature or meeting
with an employee during his or her working time. Upon
becoming a supervisor she has never specifically been in-
structed on Respondent's policy regarding organizer's
access to departments; since that time no organizer has
requested her permission to enter her department. Cath-
erine Tully began her employ with Respondent in 1970
as an accounts receivable (AR) clerk, a unit position she
held until becoming a supervisor in 1980. She was a
union delegate from 1974 through 1978. As a union
member she received notices either from a desk or saw
them on the cafeteria bulletin board . She never saw an
organizer distributing literature in her department. Upon
becoming a delegate she was instructed by Mushkin and
Ezratty that they were to distribute literature only
during breaks and to get a supervisor 's permission before
speaking to employees . As a delegate, she distributed
union literature at lunch or after working hours in non-
working areas. Prior to 1980, she observed union orga-
nizers (Mushkin, Ezratty, Copeland, and Lapis) coming
into the department and going directly to the manager's
office; the manager came out of the office and informed
an employee that the organizer wanted to speak to him
or her. On some of these occasions Tully overheard the
organizer saying-"I need to see somebody" and the
manager said yes and called the employee . The employ-
ees that Mushkin, Lapis, and Ezratty requested to see
were always the delegate (who from 1974 through 1978
was Tully). Upon becoming a supervisor in 1980, the
manager of the department told her that organizers and
delegates needed a supervisor's permission prior to enter-
ing the department to distribute literature or speak to an
employee. Since she became a supervisor, the organizers
requested permission from her, at times, when the man-
ager was not present. On one occasion, Copeland asked
Tully's permission to speak to the delegate and an em-
ployee in the department who had a pending grievance;
Tully gave them permission and they walked outside and
spoke. Ezratty testified that she conducted delegate train-
ing sessions attended by Schlesinger and Tully; at these
sessions she told the delegates that literature was to be
distributed on the delegates' breaktime or lunchtime, but
could be distributed to members on their working time.
Michael Karol began his employ with Respondent in
1980 as a staff therapist; he became a supervisor in 1984
and in April 1986 he became assistant manager of the
respiratory therapy department (containing 35 to 40 em-
ployees). He testified that while he was a union member
(from 1980 through 1984) he received union literature
from a table in the department 's office; the delegate put
it there. During this period he never saw a union orga-
nizer distributing literature in the department , nor did he
see a union organizer on patient floors (he performed his
duties "all over the hospital"). On one occasion during
this period Mushkin gave him some union literature
either outside the building or in the cafeteria. In 1984
when he became a supervisor, the manager of the depart-
ment told him that a "nondepartment person that came
in-union or otherwise would have to have our permis-
sion"; Epranian's 2 September memorandum was "just
reenforcing the existing policy." The only exception was
an "understanding" they had whereby if the organizer
wished to speak to the delegate (a very active, long-term
delegate) he could do so without prior permission as
long as the delegate was doing his work. To his knowl-
edge organizers did not speak to other employees with-
out first obtaining his permission or that of the manager;
as a supervisor he was on the floors every day; as assist-
ant manager, once or twice a week. Carol Reilly has
been employed by Respondent as manager of central
sterile supply since May 1984; the department cleans and
sterilizes instruments and equipment as well as ordering
supplies for the Respondent . Shortly after she com-
menced her employment with Respondent she met with
Marty Karris, assistant administrator for Respondent re-
garding policies of the department. At this meeting he
told her that organizers and delegates had to receive per-
mission from the "management office" before coming
into the department "to see staff and if we had the time"
such permission should be granted . Since
1984 there
have been four or five instances where the organizers
came into her department and asked to see an employee;
on all of these occasions she granted the request. She has
never seen organizers speaking to an employee in her de-
partment without approval nor has she seen organizers
distributing literature in her department.
June Jones, who has been employed by Respondent as
medical records supervisor since
1977, is directly in
charge of 6 employees-32 employees work in the de-
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partment. Previous to that, she was employed by Re-
spondent as a medical records clerk from 1970 through
1977, and was a member of the Union. She testified that
while she was a union member she was never given any
literature by a union organizer in her department; she
saw the literature posted on the bulletin board . Upon be-
coming a supervisor, the manager and director of medi-
cal records told her that organizers needed a supervisor's
permission prior to entering the department . From that
time through October she never saw a union organizer
distribute literature in her department . Joanne Scaturro
began her employ with Respondent in 1977 as a staff
nurse in the emergency room . In 1979 she became assist-
ant nursing care coordinator and in 1981 she became the
nursing care coordinator for the emergency room. The
department employs approximately 30 unit (nurses aides)
employees, 6 of whom are under her direct supervision
(the day shift). Upon becoming the nursing care coordi-
nator she was informed by her immediate supervisor, the
assistant director, that union organizers needed permis-
sion prior to entering the department . The first writing
she received on this subject was the 2 September memo-
randum. Since that time, she has not seen any organizer
in the emergency room.
Daphne Sleem began her
employ with Respondent in 1980 as a staff dietician in
the main kitchen , and joined the Union at that time. She
became supervising dietician in 1982 and chief supervis-
ing dietician in 1983. She supervises the entire main
kitchen, including dietary workers, utilities, and patient
meal services. The department employs 70 unit people
and 5 supervisory employees. She spends about half of
her day (9 a.m. to 5:30 p.m.) in her office and the other
half on the floor "seeing that everything is done ." Prior
to becoming a supervisor, all the union literature she re-
ceived was given to her in the cafeteria. Upon becoming
a supervisor, the director of the department told her that
if an organizer wished to speak to an employee they
needed prior permission to do so, but, if possible, they
should be accommodated. Between 1982 and October
1986 she never saw a union organizer distribute literature
in her department, although there was union literature on
a table in the department . She has seen Copeland going
to the associate director's office and has seen Norden-
berg speaking to employees in the cafeteria.
Carpel, who began her employment with Respondent
in about March 1986, testified that , about that time
Epranian and Davin told her that union organizers
needed prior permission from department heads and su-
pervisors before entering a department . Between that
meeting and 9 July, to her knowledge no union organizer
came into the admitting department. The only other oc-
casion that she was informed of Respondent 's access
policy
was
Epranian's
2
September
memorandum.
Donald Rosenfeld, who was employed by Respondent
from 1964 through 1979 as director of personnel (and has
been employed elsewhere since), testified that the Re-
spondent's access policy during the latter part of his
employ at the facility was: "We followed a guideline
where the union organizer would contact the personnel
department, then have to clear through the department
head." He testified that the reason for this rule10 (he was
one of the people who formulated the policy) was that
with "40 or 50 or even 60 departments at LIJ . . . there
was no way the personnel department would be able to
authorize any union delegate official or whoever to just
go into a department." Respondent wanted the depart-
ment head, as well as the personnel department , to know
when a union representative was entering a department.
This policy never changed from 1974 through 1979. Ro-
senfeld testified that "occasionally" they had problems
with the union organizers (principally Mushkin) violating
this policy resulting in meetings with Ezratty and Mush-
kin where Rosenfeld told them that they could not enter
departments without prior approval from the department
head or supervisor.
Epranian, who has been employed as director of labor
and employer relations since August 1983, testified that
within 2 or 3 weeks of beginning his employ with Re-
spondent, Forman told him that union visitation rights
were subject to approval of department heads, which
should not be unreasonably denied. Shortly thereafter
Forman gave him a memorandum , dated 6 April 1982
that Forman had prepared (his employment with Re-
spondent began in 1982) and distributed to almost every-
one from departmental chairmen to supervisors em-
ployed by Respondent. The subject was: "Guidelines on
Union Activity and Visitation, Discipline and Grievance
Procedure" of the contract between Respondent and the
Union. At one point, the memorandum quotes from what
is now article V, section 2 of the Agreement, set forth,
supra, and states:
This paragraph provides the Union representative
with opportunity to confer with management or
union members on a reasonable and orderly basis.
The Union representative will be advised that per-
mission must be obtained from the Department
Head instead of the Personnel Office . Under no cir-
cumstances may the representative pull out employ-
ees or otherwise interfere with departmental oper-
ations. If such actions occur at the behest of an em-
ployee of the Medical Center (Union delegates in-
cluded), that person is subject to disciplinary action.
Any definition of "reasonable" must relate to the
nature of the Union representatives' concern and to
the operational needs of the department . For in-
stance, if a request is made for a discussion and it is
genuinely inconvenient to meet at that time, an al-
ternate time should be set up as soon as possible. It
10 Respondent maintains a personnel policy manual (written in 1974),
which most witnesses testified was either outdated, unused, or totally ig-
nored
A provision,
entitled,
"Union
Officials-Access to
Medical
Center," states
Representatives of the union shall have reasonable access to the
Medical Center for the purpose of conferring with officials of the
Medical Center, delegates of the union and/or employees and for the
purpose of administrating the collective bargaining agreement
Representatives of the union are required to notify the Department
Head and the Personnel Department prior to conferring with dele-
gates and/or employees during working hours
Such visits shall not interfere with the operation of the Medical
Center.
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is essential that the right of the union to grieve be
respected.
Forman also showed him the 13 and 19 April 1982 let-
ters exchanged by Respondent and the Union . Epranian
testified that the reason for this rule is that only the man-
agement employee at the site can determine whether the
Union's request would interfere with the department's
operation. Epranian first met Nordenberg on 1 July; a
meeting was arranged that day for the Union's new lead-
ership and organizers to meet Respondent 's representa-
tives. Yearwood, Nordenberg, and Gus Marin (a union
organizer, but only temporarily assigned to Respondent)
attended for the Union ; Epranian, Davin, Buthe, and
Forman were there for Respondent . At the conclusion of
this meeting Epranian suggested a brief meeting with
Nordenberg and Marin to familiarize them with Re-
spondent's system and to provide them with a list of
pending arbitrations. He testified:
The basic thing I conveyed to them was two
points; that we didn't control their access to the
premises. They came and went . And secondly that,
however, access to employees or at working time,
any access to employees during their duty hours or
when they were on duty, required prior supervisory
approval, which would not be unreasonably denied.
He testified that this was not "an adversarial or argumen-
tative meeting, they neither expressed disagreement or
agreement."
Epranian testified further that between Forman's April
1982 letters to the Union and his July letters to Norden-
berg there were no written communications between Re-
spondent and the Union regarding its access policy. The
purpose of his 29 August letter (and subsequent meetings
with department heads) was "to reaffirm and reinform"
Respondent's management of their rights, as well as the
employees' rights. The prior agreement had expired on
30 June, without a new contract having been entered
into, and there were a lot of questions regarding the
grievance machinery, employee
Weingarten 's rights and
the Union's representatives rights . The letter and subse-
quent meetings were intended to answer these questions.
The policy set forth in this 29 August letter is no differ-
ent from the policy he has followed for the entire period
of his employment with Respondent . Epranian testified
that during his employment with Respondent he has dis-
cussed the access policy with Copeland ,
Lapis, and
Spearman, prior to Nordenberg's tenure as organizer. He
told them what his 29 August letter and 2 September
memorandum stated : that they had "free rein," but they
could not interfere with Respondent 's operations, and
therefore had to get permission of the department head
before entering a department. "Generally speaking" the
organizers followed this policy. There was a situation
where the organizer claimed that he had permission and
the manager claimed that he had not given his permis-
sion.
Forman, who began his employment with Respondent
in March 1982 as director of human resources and later
became vice president for human resources (although his
duties and responsibilities remained the same), testified
that when he began his employment Dr. Match told him
that he felt "there was need for clarification of certain
provisions
of the contract"
and he undertook that
project. Between the time he was formally hired and his
first day of employment at the facility he requested a
number of documents (including the manual and the con-
tract) and spoke to Buthe on a number of occasions. The
result was his 6 April 1982 memorandum which, in his
opinion, did not change Respondent's access
policy.
Forman testified further that his 13 April 1982 letter was
sent to Kay and Ezratty because Dr. Match felt that due
to the Union's recently unsuccessful month-long strike
(nurses at a different division of Respondent ) the Union
might react by pressuring the facilities'
department
heads. By paragraph 2 of this letter Forman wanted to
ensure that he would be in the "midst of what was going
on" to prevent any undue pressure on the department
heads. The following month , Forman met with Kay and
Ezratty and reiterated Respondent 's policy and the rea-
sons underlying it and they stuck with the position set
forth in their letter of 19 April 1982; "Nothing was
really resolved." Subsequently, on most occasions, the
Union complied with these requirements ; "on rare occa-
sion" he received a call "that there was something inap-
propriate occurring that warranted my intervention"; on
those occasions he spoke to the vice president or the or-
ganizer and told them that the Respondent could not
accept such actions. Finally, Forman testified that he be-
lieved that
Respondent
"did not permit distribution
within the departments under any circumstances , but cer-
tainly, that was not true of access" although he could
not point to anything in the Agreement to suppport this
conclusion.
The final allegation is that Davin, on about 16 July, at
the cafeteria" in the • Levitt Building (the administration
building) interfered with a union meeting conducted by
Nordenberg, in violation of Section 8(a)(1) of the Act. In
early July, at Nordenberg's request ,
Respondent ap-
proved the use of one of the meeting rooms in the Levitt
Building, on 16 July from noon to 1 p.m. for a union
chapter meeting. This was for the small (compared to
the main facility) number of employees represented by
the Union who are employed at the Levitt Building.
Nordenberg (the only witness who testified on this sub-
ject) testified that during the noon to 1 p.m. meeting,
Lee Small, the delegate, told him that the employees at
the Levitt Building have two lunch periods and the em-
ployees with the later lunch period would not be able to
attend the 12 noon to 1 p.m. chapter meeting . He asked
Small what to do and Small said that he did not think
any other room was available in the Levitt Building, so
they decided to meet the remaining employees in the
Levitt cafeteria from 1 to 2 p.m., although he knew that
he had no right to have a chapter meeting in the Levitt
cafeteria without prior approval from Respondent. Nor-
denberg testified that he did not know how these em-
ployees knew to meet them in the cafeteria at that time
'' Whereas the main cafeteria at the facility (also called the Schneider
cafeteria) seats approximately 500, the cafeteria in the Levitt Building
(about a 10-minute walk from the principal facility ) seats approximately
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(other than that Small "spread the word that, there was
going to be a meeting in the cafeteria"). About 10 to 15
employees attended this meeting in the cafeteria from 1
to 2 p.m. They occupied about half the space of this caf-
eteria; there were only about two other people in the
cafeteria at the time. During this meeting Davin ap-
proached Nordenberg and told him that he wanted to
speak to him; Nordenberg said that he could not speak to
him at that time as he was in the middle of a meeting.
"He was very demanding that I speak to him right now.
We exchanged some words." Davin then said: "You
better make sure that all of these people are on their
break." Nordenberg invited Davin to ask the employees
and Davin left the area.
IV. CREDIBILITY DETERMINATIONS
Numerous credibility determinations need be made
here, principally regarding the 1 July and 8 and 9 Octo-
ber incidents and the Respondent's past practice regard-
ing access. I found the leading player in this hearing,
Nordenberg, less than believable, but not totally incredi-
ble, principally because some of the opposing players
were more credible than he; additionally , I found puz-
zling
his testimony regarding Epranian 's
29
August
letter, which was addressed to him at the Union, with
copies indicated to Yearwood, Durham, and Messina. He
testified that he never received this letter, was never told
about the letter, and never discussed the letter with
anyone until he was shown the letter on the third day of
the instant hearing. Yet, his affidavit prepared by counsel
for the Charging Party says that on 29 August Respond-
ent sent him a letter, which was attached to his affidavit.
In another affidavit, this one taken by the General Coun-
sel, Nordenberg states that prior to 8 October Yearwood
showed him Epranian's 29 August letter. He testified that
he read, initialed, and added a few words to this para-
graph of the affidavit, in addition to signing it. In at-
tempting to explain this discrepancy , Nordenberg testi-
fied : "I'm recalling that there was some discussion of an
August 29 Letter that I didn't have a copy of, and that
could not be found by me." When asked , again, to ex-
plain the discrepancy after testifying that the affidavit
says that the letter is attached to the affidavit, he testi-
fied: "I recalled some discussion in preparing the case
that there was a August 29 letter. I'm now recalling I
never saw that letter." However, my principal reason for
discrediting Nordenberg in some situations is that I
found many of the witnesses more credible than he. As
regards the 1 July incident I found Geiger and Feller
more credible than Nordenberg. They appeared to be
testifying exactly as they best remember the facts (albeit
a year later) whereas Nordenberg appeared, at times, to
be tailoring his testimony to best serve the Union 's case.
On the basis of the credited testimony of Geiger and
Feller, I find that during this incident Nordenberg lightly
hit Anzel's right shoulder (if it were more than a light
hit it would have inspired Geiger to stand up and inter-
vene) with his right hand causing her to fall backward,
called her an "asshole" on a number of occasions, and
blocked Anzel from getting out from behind her desk.
As regards the 8 and 9 October incidents, I found Roch-
ford, Fuchsberg, McKenna, and Karnbad the most credi-
ble witnesses, clearly more credible than Durham, Nor-
denberg, Camel, and Siegel. I would not discredit Bat-
terman's testimony regarding 9 October (for 8 October I
find that she was not at work ); rather due to her inability
to directly answer a question , and to limit her answers to
be responsive to the questions , her testimony creates
more confusion than assistance . Although Siegel ap-
peared to be a frank and open witness, I do not credit his
testimony regarding the 9 October incident , principally
because I found Fuchsberg, McKenna, and Karnbad
more credible. In addition , although he testified that
Nordenberg lightly pushed Camel causing her to fall, the
security officer's incident report he filed on 9 October
states simply that Nordenberg "put his hand on Wendy's
shoulder and lightly pushed her"-no mention is made of
her falling.
I therefore find that on 8 October, after Rochford
questioned Nordenberg about whether he had Camel's
permission to be in the department , Nordenberg said that
he did not need her permission and they did not know
the contract, in addition to "screw you" and "bullshit."
Rochford testified that when she saw Nordenberg at or
about 11 a.m. the following day she told him that it was
busy and asked him to leave the pamphlets at the front
desk. At this point Camel came out of her office and
Nordenberg said that he could do as he pleases and
"screw you, bullshit, tough shit." He also called Camel
an "asshole." When Camel and Nordenberg walked to
the front of the office, Rochford remained in the back as-
signing beds.
She did not witness anything further,
except that, as they were walking toward the front, they
"were having this heated discussion." From this point to
the end of the incident, I credit the testimony of Fuchs-
berg, McKenna, and Karnbad . Not only did Fuchsberg
appear to be testifying in an honest and truthful manner,
as best she could remember, but she had no reason to fal-
sify or tailor her testimony . She had been a volunteer in
Respondent's admitting department for 6 years . Counsel
for Respondent, in his brief, alleges that Fuchsberg's
"testimony must be viewed as biased" because of an al-
leged "relationship" with Karnbad and McKenna, and
that it was "clear from her demeanor , that she was
friendly with the admitting employees who she viewed
as her co-workers and friends." I reject this argument as
being unsupported by the evidence and without merit.
McKenna and Karnbad were also credible witnesses; al-
though union members (McKenna was a delegate) they
appeared to be testifying as honestly and openly as possi-
ble in attempting to recollect events that occurred almost
8 months earlier. I therefore find that when Camel and
Nordenberg got to the reception desk (arguing loudly),
about two or three people were seated in the waiting
area. (Respondent's exhibits, attempting to establish that
a large number of people were in the waiting area at the
time are not conclusive, as argued by counsel for Charg-
ing Party in her brief.) Nordenberg leaned over the
counter to give leaflets to Karnbad, and asked her to
hand them out for him. Camel pulled the leaflets out of
Karnbad's hand and told her that she could not distribute
them in the office. Camel returned the leaflets to Nor-
denberg and she "pushed," "nudged," or "shoved" Nor-
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denberg's shoulder; a "light push." Nordenberg then said
that
she should not push him and he "pushed,"
"nudged," or "shoved" her "exactly the way she shoved
him." Carpel never fell to the ground nor did she fall
against the reception desk.
V. ANALYSIS-ALLEGED UNILATERAL CHANGE
The General Counsel and Charging Party allege that
Epranian's 29 August letter stating that "any Union rep-
resentative must request and obtain supervisory permis-
sion before conferring with any employee during their
working hours" represented a unilateral change from the
procedure previously in effect, in violation of Section
8(a)(1) and (5) of the Act. Respondent alleges that this
has always been the procedure followed at the facility,
and presented numerous witnesses in support of this ar-
gument; the General Counsel and Charging Party's case
herein is supported by the testimony of Mushkin, Ez-
ratty, and Nordenberg.
The law is clear that where a valid bargaining rela-
tionship is in effect an employer may not unilaterally
change the terms and conditions of employment of its
employees without affording the employees ' collective-
bargaining representative the opportunity to bargain
about such changes until either impasse or agreement is
reached. NLRB v. Katz, 369 U.S. 736, 747-748 (1962).
The Board has stated:
In order to make out a prima facie showing that Re-
spondent violated Section 8(a)(5) by [instituting a
unilateral change], the General Counsel was re-
quired to show that Respondent failed to bargain
and reach agreement with the designated bargaining
representative before implementing changes in the
terms and conditions of the contract ."
[Spector
Freight System , 260 NLRB 86, 87 (1982); Branch
Motor Express Co., 260 NLRB 108 (1982).]
As there was no bargaining regarding access at least
during 1986, the issue is simply whether the contents of
the letter represented a change in Respondent's access
policy. The initial inquiry is to the Agreement; article V,
section 2 is the principal provision in this regard. The
first sentence of this section is of little assistance in this
determination because of the different interpretations of
the word "reasonable." The following sentence is the
one that really governs the instant situation; the difficulty
is that it is not exactly a model of clarity when applied
to the situation herein . "Where the Union representative
finds it necessary to enter a department of the Employer
for this purpose [conferring with employees], he/she
shall first advise the personnel office or the head of the
department or his/her designee in person, as the Em-
ployer shall state." The Charging Party's position is that
the obligations imposed on the Union by article V was
limited to advising, and that although the Agreement
provides that such visits do not interfere with Respond-
ent's operation, it did not give supervisors the exclusive
right to make that determination . Respondent's position
is that the requirement for advising Respondent , and the
caveat that the visit not interfere with Respondent's op-
erations, can only reasonably be read to mean that the
superviso • must approve the visit . As stated in Respond-
ent's brie
"It is simply a preposterous notion that an or-
ganizer is 'n a position to determine when a visit might
interfere with -Nperations. Obviously, in organizer would
have no way o ' knowing the department's workload or
whether employees were out sick." I find that the con-
tractual language does not clearly spell out the proce-
dure to be followed; it is therefore necessary to examine
the pa.t practice followed by the parties.
Respondent presented numerous credible witnesses be-
ginning chronologically with Rosenfeld, who testified
that Respondent's access rule as spelled out in the 29
August letter was identical to the rule in effect while he
was Respondent's
director
of personnel from 1971
through 1979 . I also found Forman to be a direct and
credible witness and found convincing his testimony that
his 6 March 1982 memorandum represented no change
from Respondent's access policy and that the procedure
in place when he began his employ with Respondent, at
that time, was never changed. I also found Epranian to
be a fairly credible witness; because his testimony corre-
sponded to that of Rosenfeld and Forman (whom I
found very credible),
I credit his testimony that the
policy set forth in his 29 August letter and 2 September
memorandum represented no change in Respondent's
access rule as he had known it since August 1983, when
he began his employment with Respondent.
Respondent's defense is further supported by the credi-
ble testimony of its supervisors ; without repeating the
testimony of these supervisors (whose supervisory expe-
rience goes back as far as 1971) they testified, generally,
that the 29 August letter and 2 September memorandum
represented no change in Respondent's access policy-
that was the way they, had always operated. They had
problems, on occasion, with organizers entering the de-
partment to speak to employees without first receiving
their permission, but, when they learned of these situa-
tions, they spoke to the organizer in an attempt to pre-
vent a recurrence. In particular, as stated supra, I found
Rochford to be an extremely credible witness; she testi-
fied that upon becoming a supervisor in 1982 she was in-
structed on "the changing of the hat" and that organizers
and delegates needed a supervisor 's permission prior to
coming into a department. Geiger, whom I also previ-
ously found to be a highly credible witness, testified to
the same instruction upon becoming a supervisor at or
about the same time. And finally, Schwan, whom I
found to be a precise, articulate, and credible witness,
testified to 15 years of experience prior to the 29 August
letter. During that period she expected organizers to
obtain her permission prior to entering her department.
At times, they did not follow this procedure and when
she saw them doing so she asked them to leave, which
they did. Additional support for Respondent's position
comes from Lardner's credible testimony that beginning
in July Nordenberg called her to inform her that he was
on the premises. Although she had been employed by
Respondent for 2 years at the time, that had never previ-
ously occurred.
That is not to say that the General Counsel and
Charging Party's allegation is totally without merit. As
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far back as 1982 the Unon told Respondent that its inter-
pretation of the access clause was wrong and that the
Union "wouldn't stand for it." In addition, Mushkin and
Ezratty (who were more credible than Nordenberg and
Durham) testified to almost complete freedom of access
at the facility without the need of obtaining supervisory
permission prior to entering a department . However, this
does not necessarily conflict with the testimony of Re-
spondent's witnesses, many of whom testified that some
of the Union's organizers violated this policy. In addi-
tion, since the facility has approximately 250 depart-
ments, 750 beds, and 7000 employees, it is very likely
that some organizer's ventures into departments went un-
noticed. Finally, Mushkin and Ezratty ceased their ac-
tivities at the facility in 1982 and 1983 respectively, the
years that Forman and Epranian commenced their em-
ployment with Respondent . It may be (as indicated by
Forman's testimony) that at that time (with impetus from
the Union's strike at the facility in 1982) Respondent de-
termined that it would enforce these rules more strictly
than it had in the past.
For all of these reasons, I find that the General Coun-
sel has failed to establish that there was any change in
Respondent's access policy about 29 August, or at any
time within the 10(b) period, and this allegation is there-
fore dismissed.
VI. ANALYSIS-BARRING NORDENBERG FROM
THE PREMISES
Both unions and employers can freely choose their
representatives to deal with the other in bargaining and
grievance situations . This is not an absolute, however, as
an employer can refuse to deal with a union representa-
tive whose conduct has crossed over a line of permissible
conduct established by the Board and the courts. As the
court stated in General Electric Co. Y. NLRB, 412 F.2d
512 at 517 (2d Cir. 1969):
There have been exceptions to the general rule
that either side can choose its bargaining representa-
tives freely, but they have been rare and confined to
situations so infected with ill-will, usually personal,
or conflict of interest as to make good -faith bargain-
ing impractical.
In two early cases, Deeco, Inc., 127 NLRB 666 (1960);
and Signal Mfg. Co., 150 NLRB 1162 (1962), the employ-
ers refused to meet with, or recognize, particular union
representatives. In Deeco, after the employer procrasti-
nated in complying with the union's legitimate request
for the seniority lists, the representative accused the em-
ployer of giving him the "run around" and of being a
liar. In Signal, when the representative was told that the
employees would be given a day off because the employ-
er's founder had died, he said: "Good, why didn't he
take Bernie Ruskin the employer's director of manufac-
turing with him." In each case the Board found a viola-
tion, saying that although these statements were ill-ad-
vised and not to be condoned, they did not reflect such
an underlying hostility to the employer so as to make
collective bargaining between the parties a futility.
Fitzsimons Mfg. Co., 251 NLRB 375 (1980), is about as
close as Board cases come to the instant matter . In that
case, during a grievance meeting, believing that the em-
ployer's corporate personnel director had disclosed con-
fidential material to the union's bargaining committee,
the union representative said that he would punch the
employer's representative in the mouth and "knock him
on his ass" if the subject were brought up again. As the
employer's representative began to speak , the union rep-
resentative grabbed him by his tie, pulling him upwards
until he came to his feet . After they were separated, he
then challenged him to step outside to the parking lot;
the employer's representative declined this offer. The
employer requested that the union remove him as their
representative at the plant; because the union refused this
request, the employer refused to meet with the union.
Stressing the fact that this case involved an unprovoked
assault, the Board stated that although parties generally
have the right to choose their own representatives,
"where the presence of a particular representative in ne-
gotiations
makes collective bargaining impossible or
futile, a party's right to choose its representative is limit-
ed, and the other party is relieved of its duty to deal
with that particular representative." (251 NLRB at 379.)
In dismissing the case, the Board quoted from KDEN
:'-oadcasting Co., 225 NLRB 25 at 35 (1976), that there
must be "persuasive evidence that the presence of the
particular individual would create ill -will and make good
faith bargaining impossible." Sahara Datsun, 278 NLRB
1044 (1986), involved an employee whom the Board
found was discharged in violation of Section 8(a)(3) of
the Act in September 1984. The following month he in-
formed the bank that the employer used to obtain financ-
ing for its customers that the employer was submitting
falsified customer credit applications to the bank. Four
months later, in the union's newsletter, he accused the
employer of involvement in prostitution and the use and
sale of cocaine. The Board (278 NLRB at 1046) found
that his actions excused the employer from being obligat-
ed to deal with him as a union representative:
The circumstances in which we will recognize an
employer's right to refuse to deal with a particular
union representative are very limited. When an indi-
vidual engages in conduct directed at the employer
or its representatives which engenders such ill will
that it weakens the fabric of the relationship to the
extent that good-faith bargaining is impossible, how-
ever, we recognize an employer 's right to refuse to
meet and bargain with that individual.
Nordenberg's actions on 1 July and 8 and 9 October
are (as the Board often states in cases such as this) "not
to be condoned." His actions were clearly inappropriate,
especially for a hospital setting in which they occurred.
However, they clearly did not attain the level of activity
that occurred in Fitzsimons, and Sahara Datsun , supra. On
1 July, he lightly pushed Anzel (apparently to get to her
phone), called her an "asshole" on a number of occa-
sions, and blocked her from getting out from behind her
desk for a short time. The events of 8 October were lim-
ited to obscenities; likewise, Nordenberg's actions on 9
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October prior to arriving at the reception desk also in-
volved only obscenities . The events at the reception desk
are the crux of this allegation, the "straw that broke the
camel's back" in Epranian's words; yet, there really is
not that much there and what is, was provoked by
Carpel. Nordenberg handed the leaflets to Karnbad (as
Rochford had requested him to do) and Carpel took
them from Karnbad and handed them to Nordenberg.
She then "pushed," "nudged," or "shoved" Nordenberg
and he did the same to her. That was the extent of his
activities on 9 October . Although his actions at the re-
ception desk are not to be condoned they were provoked
by Carpel who took the leaflets from Karnbad and
pushed him. An employer cannot rely on an employee's
indiscretion to justify a discharge when it was provoked
by an agent of the employer. E. L du Pont & Co., 263
NLRB 159 (1982);
Tom 's Ford, Inc., 253 NLRB 888
(1980). I therefore find that Nordenberg's actions on 1
July, 8 and 9 October and the interim actions referred to
by Respondent, although distasteful, did not constitute
persuasive evidence that Nordenberg's presence at the fa-
cility would create ill-will and make good-faith bargain-
ing impossible. I therefore find that by barring Norden-
berg from its premises on 9 October, Respondent violat-
ed Section 8(a)(1)(5) of the Act.
VII. ANALYSIS-REMAINING ALLEGATIONS
I have found that Respondent did not unilaterally
change its access policy by Epranian 's 29 August letter;
therefore on 8 and 9 October Respondent maintained a
lawful requirement of requiring prior supervisory permis-
sion prior to entering a department to confer with em-
ployees.
I have also found Rochford to be a (or the
most) credible witness. As Nordenberg and Durham had
not previously requested permission to be in the depart-
ment on 8 and 9 October, and it was busy in the depart-
ment when they were there, Respondent was entitled to
ask them to leave. I therefore find that Respondent did
not unlawfully deny Nordenberg and Durham access to
its admitting office on 8 and 9 October.
The complaint next alleges that Davin 's conduct on 16
July interfered with a union meeting in violation of Sec-
tion 8(a)(1) of the Act. I agree with Respondent's argu-
ment about this allegation, as contained in its brief. Re-
spondent maintained a procedure of assigning meeting
rooms to the Union, on request; in fact the 12 to 1 p.m.
meeting was conducted in a room acquired by Norden-
berg through this manner. Nordenberg admitted that he
did not have the right to have a chapter meeting in the
Levitt cafeteria without prior approval from Respondent.
He did not obtain this approval , but, instead conducted
the meeting in the cafeteria, taking up about half the
available space of the cafeteria. In these circumstances, I
find Davin's statement ("you better make sure that all of
these people are on their break ") does not violate Sec-
tion 8(a)(1) of the Act.
I next find that Respondent, on 9 October, by Carpel,
did not violate Section 8(a)(1) of the Act by confiscating
union literature from employees. The credited evidence
establishes that Carpel took the leaflets from Karnbad's
hand and returned them to Nordenberg . Both Norden-
berg and Durham had spoken to, and distributed leaflets
to, the admitting department employees that day (prior
to the reception desk incident ) and the prior day, even
though these visits violated Respondent's access policy.
In addition, the departments have bulletin boards where
the leaflet was, or could have been, displayed . The ad-
mitting department employees were not deprived of the
proper notice of the meeting. That Carpel took them
from Karnbad's hand and returned them to Nordenberg
was improper, but not unlawful.
On 9 October, after Nordenberg returned to the facili-
ty for the second time, Respondent had him arrested in
the cafeteria for criminal trespass after he refused to
leave; he was later acquitted of this charge . Article V,
section 2 of the Agreement provides that representatives
of the Union shall have "reasonable access" to the facili-
ty to confer with Respondent , delegates, or employees
and in administering the Agreement . At the time of his
arrest Nordenberg was in the Schneider (the main) cafe-
teria, a nonworking area, speaking with delegates and
employees of Respondent. The sole reason for his arrest
was his presence at the facility after he had been de-
clared persona non grata by Respondent. However, as
discussed supra, I found that Respondent 's decision to
bar Nordenberg from the premises was not sustained by
the facts and violated Section 8 (a)(1) and (5) of the Act.
As Nordenberg was in a nonworking area, where he was
permitted to be pursuant to the Agreement, and Re-
spondent's sole basis for barring him has been found to
be invalid, I find that by causing his arrest on 9 October
Respondent violated Section 8(a)(1) of the Act.
W. T
Rawleigh Co., 90 NLRB 1924 ( 1950).
Finally, the complaint alleges that Respondent's letter
to Nordenberg of 4 November violates Section 8(a)(1) of
the Act because it threatened him (while he was still an
employee on a leave of absence) with reprisals because
of his activities as a union organizer . The letter in ques-
tion, while approving the Union's request for an exten-
sion of the leave of absence for Nordenberg for an addi-
tional 6 months through 30 June 1987, states that in the
event Nordenberg should elect to return to Respondent's
employ prior to that date (he did not) Respondent ex-
pected him to notify them at least 1 month in advance
"at which time the question of disciplinary remedy for
his recent misconduct for which he was barred from our
premises and its impact on his future employment status
with the Medical Center will be addressed ." Although
the 4 November letter does contain a threat (to investi-
gate his recent misconduct should he apply to return to
Respondent's employ), not every threat is unlawful. This
was a "threat" to "address" a certain issue, whether his
misconduct on 1 July and 8 and 9 October should bar his
future employment with Respondent. The letter does not
threaten him with any action; it states that if he applies
to return to Respondent's employ, Respondent will then
"address" the issue. 12 I shall therefore dismiss this alle-
gation.
12 It should also be noted that although I have found Nordenberg's ac-
tions between 1 July and 9 October did not justify Respondent in barring
him from the premises , that does not necessarily mean that the same ac-
tivities engaged in by an employee would be protected
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CONCLUSIONS OF LAW
1. The Respondent, Long Island Jewish Hillside Medi-
cal Center, is an employer within the meaning of Section
2(2), (6), and (7) of the Act.
2. The Union is a labor organization within the mean-
ing of Section 2(5) of the Act.
3. At all times material, the Union has been the collec-
tive-bargaining representative of Respondent's employees
in the following unit appropriate for purposes of collec-
tive bargaining within the meaning of Section 9(b) of the
Act: Service and maintenance, clerical, social workers,
social work assistants, technical and licensed practical
nurses.
4. Respondent violated Section 8(a)(1) of the Act by
causing the New York City Police Department to arrest
Gerard Nordenberg on 9 October 1986.
5. Respondent violated Section 8(a)(1) and (5) of the
Act by barring Nordenberg from its premises and refus-
ing to deal with him as a representative of the Union
since 9 October 1986.
6. Respondent did not violate the Act as further al-
leged in the complaint and as further amended at the
hearing.
(a) Recognize Nordenberg as an organizer and repre-
sentative of the Union and deal with him as such without
limitation.
(b) Notify the Union, in writing, within 10 days of this
decision that it no longer has any objection to dealing
with Nordenberg and that it will do so, on request.
(c) Post on each of the bulletin boards at every facility
employing employees who are members of the Union,
copies of the attached
notice marked "Appendix." 14
Copies of the notice, on forms provided by the Regional
Director for Region 29, after being signed by the Re-
spondent's authorized representative, shall be posted by
the Respondent immediately upon receipt and maintained
for 60 consecutive days in conspicuous places including
all places where notices to employees are customarily
posted. Reasonable steps shall be taken by the Respond-
ent to ensure that the notices are not altered, defaced, or
covered by any other material.
(d) Notify the Regional Director in writing within 20
days from the date of this Order what steps the Re-
spondent has taken to comply.
IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that the complaint be dis-
missed insofar as it alleges violations not specifically
found.
THE REMEDY
Having found that Respondent has engaged in and is
engaging in certain unfair labor practices , it will be rec-
ommended that it cease and desist therefrom and take
certain affirmative action designed to effectuate the poli-
cies of the Act. In this regard, Respondent shall immedi-
ately notify the Union that it will recognize and deal
with Nordenberg as the Union's organizer, without limi-
tation. As Nordenberg has been acquitted of the criminal
trespass charge initiated by Respondent , which has been
found to violate Section 8 (a)(1) of the Act, nothing fur-
ther is required of Respondent to remedy this violation.
On these findings of fact and conclusions of law and
on the entire record, I issue the following recommend-
ed"
ORDER
The Respondent, Long Island Jewish Hillside Medical
Center, New Nyde Park, New York, its officers, agents,
successors, and assigns, shall
1. Cease and desist from
(a) Refusing to recognize or deal with Gerard Norden-
berg as an organizer and representative of the Union.
(b) Causing the arrest of representatives of the Union
while they are engaged in protected activity.
(c) In any like or related manner interfering with, re-
straining, or coercing its employees in the exercise of the
rights guaranteed them by Section 7 of the Act.
2. Take the following affirmative action necessary to
effectuate the policies of the Act.
13 If no exceptions are filed as provided by Sec 102 46 of the Board's
Rules and Regulations,
the findings,
conclusions, and recommended
Order shall , as provided in Sec 102 48 of the Rules , be adopted by the
Board and all objections to them shall be deemed waived for all pur-
poses
14 If this Order is enforced by a judgment of a United States court of
appeals, the words in the notice reading "Posted by Order of the Nation-
al Labor Relations Board " shall read "Posted Pursuant to a Judgment of
the United States Court of Appeals Enforcing an Order of the National
Labor Relations Board "
APPENDIX
NOTICE To EMPLOYEES
POSTED BY ORDER OF THE
NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD
An Agency of the United States Government
The National Labor Relations Board has found that we
violated the National Labor Relations Act and has or-
dered us to post and abide by this notice.
WE WILL NOT refuse to
bargain collectively with
Local 1199, Drug, Hospital and Health Care Employees
Union, RWDSU, AFL-CIO (the Union) as the exclusive
bargaining representative of our employees in the appro-
priate unit concerning wages and other conditions of em-
ployment, by refusing to deal, or meet, with Gerard
Nordenberg or any other duly authorized representative
of the Union. The following unit of employees is appro-
priate for collective
bargaining :
Service and
mainte-
nance, clerical, social workers, social work assistants,
technical and licensed practical nurses.
WE WILL NOT cause the arrest of any representative of
the Union who is present at our facility pursuant to, and
in accordance with, the terms of the collective-bargain-
ing agreement between the Union and League of Volun-
tary Hospitals and Homes of New York.
WE WILL NOT in any like or related manner interfere
with, restrain, or coerce our employees in the exercise of
the rights guaranteed them by Section 7 of the Act.
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WE WILL, on request , meet with, deal with and bar-
gain collectively with Gerard Nordenberg and any other
duly designated representative of the Union.
LONG ISLAND JEWISH HILLSIDE MEDICAL
CENTER