372 NLRB No. 8
Capitol Street Surgery Center LLC
372 NLRB No. 8
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Capitol Street Surgery Center, LLC and Martin
Lauster. Case 25–CA–271204
November 22, 2022
DECISION AND ORDER
BY CHAIRMAN MCFERRAN AND MEMBERS KAPLAN
AND RING
On May 12, 2022, Administrative Law Judge Robert
A. Giannasi issued the attached decision.1 The Respond-
ent filed exceptions and a supporting brief, the General
Counsel filed an answering brief, and the Respondent
filed a reply brief.
The National Labor Relations Board has delegated its
authority in this proceeding to a three-member panel.
The Board has considered the decision and the record
in light of the exceptions and briefs and has decided to
affirm the judge’s rulings, findings,2 and conclusions and
1 This proceeding was heard July 13 through 15, 2021, on the Zoom
for Government platform, before Administrative Law Judge Elizabeth
M. Tafe. On April 25, 2022, Judge Tafe left the Division of Judges
without issuing a decision in this case and was thus unavailable to
complete the decision within the meaning of Sec. 102.36(b) of the
Board’s Rules and Regulations. Also on April 25, Deputy Chief Ad-
ministrative Law Judge Arthur J. Amchan designated Administrative
Law Judge Robert A. Giannasi to render a decision based on the record
made before Judge Tafe, all parties having agreed to that procedure.
2 The Respondent urges the Board to review Judge Giannasi’s cred-
ibility determinations de novo because Judge Giannasi did not conduct
the hearing and did not observe the witnesses’ demeanor while testify-
ing. Although we note that the Respondent declined to avail itself of
the opportunity for a new trial before Judge Giannasi, we have re-
viewed Judge Giannasi’s credibility determinations de novo. See Sam-
sung Electronics America, Inc., 363 NLRB 946, 947 (2016) (reviewing
credibility determination de novo because judge had not based it on
demeanor), enfd. in relevant part sub nom. Franks v. NLRB, 742 Fed.
Appx. 463 (11th Cir. 2018). We have carefully examined the record
and find no reason to disagree with the judge’s credibility determina-
tions.
In the absence of exceptions, we adopt the judge’s findings that Lead
Interventional-Radiology Technicians Danielle Mohindra and Jennifer
Lozano are supervisors within the meaning of Sec. 2(11) of the Act and
that employee Martin Lauster engaged in protected concerted activity
when, during a November 5, 2020 staff meeting, he objected to the
Respondent’s plan to have unlicensed personnel operate the Respond-
ent’s C-arm machine. Also in the absence of exceptions, we affirm the
judge’s dismissal of the allegation that the Respondent violated Sec.
8(a)(1) by asking employee Cassandra Shepard for a copy of her audio
recording of the November 5 meeting without first providing her the
assurances required by Johnnie’s Poultry Co., 146 NLRB 770 (1964),
enf. denied 344 F.2d 617 (8th Cir. 1965).
The Respondent does not specifically except to the judge’s finding
that the General Counsel satisfied the knowledge element of her initial
Wright Line burden of proving that Lauster’s protected concerted activ-
ity was a motivating factor in the Respondent’s decision to discharge
to adopt the recommended Order as modified and set
forth in full below.3
him. See Wright Line, 251 NLRB 1083 (1980), enfd. on other grounds
662 F.2d 25 899 (1st Cir. 1981), cert. denied 455 U.S. 989 (1982),
approved in NLRB v. Transportation Management Corp., 462 U.S. 393
(1983). Indeed, the Respondent concedes that “Mohindra and Lozano’s
knowledge of Lauster’s [protected] C-arm comments may be imputed
to [the Respondent] . . . .” (Br. at 23.) However, the Respondent does
claim that “[Administrator Brandon] Ehret had no knowledge of the C-
arm discussion, much less anything related specifically to comments by
Lauster” when arguing that the General Counsel failed to prove a nexus
between Lauster’s protected concerted activity and his discharge.
Assuming for argument’s sake that the Respondent adequately placed
the knowledge element before us, we agree with the judge’s finding
that the Respondent, and Administrator Ehret specifically, knew of
Lauster’s November 5 protected concerted activity when Lauster was
discharged on November 18. Circumstantial evidence strongly sup-
ports this finding. Ehret had a practice of being debriefed about staff
meetings that he did not attend, and Ehret testified that he had received
a general report about the November 5 meeting. In addition, it was
Ehret himself who added the C-arm matter to the agenda for the No-
vember 5 meeting, and the announcement at the meeting that an unli-
censed employee would run the machine during early-morning proce-
dures proved controversial and provoked employee pushback. These
circumstances, coupled with the pretextual nature of the Respondent’s
proffered justifications for discharging Lauster (discussed below),
support a finding of knowledge and warrant discrediting Ehret, Danielle
Mohindra, and Lozano to the extent they testified that Lauster’s pro-
tected comments were not relayed to Ehret.
The judge found that the General Counsel established that the Re-
spondent bore animus towards Lauster’s protected concerted activity
based, in part, on the pretextual nature of the Respondent’s proffered
justifications for firing Lauster, including that on November 18, 2020,
he had purportedly shined a flashlight in a nurse’s eyes and made shad-
ow puppets on the wall during surgery. In adopting the judge’s pretext
and animus findings, we note that Lauster did not engage in any mis-
conduct with a flashlight on that date, and the Respondent did not actu-
ally believe that he had. Rather, the Respondent fabricated this pur-
ported misconduct to create a pretext for discharging Lauster. In addi-
tion, no witness present during the surgery in question corroborated
Lozano’s claim that Lauster made shadow puppets on the wall.
Finally, the Respondent complains that the judge failed to discuss
certain testimony that Lauster was an unfocused employee and engaged
in misconduct prior to the events of November 18. Because we have
adopted the judge’s finding that Lauster did not commit—and the Re-
spondent did not believe Lauster committed—the alleged misconduct
on November 18 that the Respondent claims prompted the discharge,
such testimony cannot serve to demonstrate that the Respondent would
have discharged Lauster on November 18 even absent his protected
concerted activity.
3 We shall modify the judge’s recommended Order to conform to
our standard remedial language and in accordance with our decisions in
Cascades Containerboard Packaging—Niagara, 371 NLRB No. 25
(2021), modifying 370 NLRB No. 76 (2021), Paragon Systems, 371
NLRB No. 104 (2022), and Excel Container, Inc., 325 NLRB 17
(1997). We shall substitute a new notice to conform to the Order as
modified.
Members Kaplan and Ring acknowledge and apply Paragon Systems
as Board precedent, although they expressed disagreement there with
the Board’s approach and would have adhered to the position the Board
adopted in Danbury Ambulance Service, Inc., 369 NLRB No. 68
(2020).
DECISIONS OF THE NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD
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ORDER
The National Labor Relations Board orders that the
Respondent, Capitol Street Surgery Center, LLC, Indian-
apolis, Indiana, its officers, agents, successors, and as-
signs, shall
1. Cease and desist from
(a)
Discharging or otherwise discriminating against
employees for engaging in protected concerted activities.
(b) In any like or related manner interfering with, re-
straining, or coercing employees in the exercise of the
rights guaranteed them by Section 7 of the Act.
2. Take the following affirmative action necessary to
effectuate the policies of the Act.
(a) Within 14 days from the date of this Order, offer
Martin Lauster full reinstatement to his former job or, if
that job no longer exists, to a substantially equivalent
position, without prejudice to his seniority or any other
rights or privileges previously enjoyed.
(b) Make Martin Lauster whole for any loss of earn-
ings and other benefits suffered as a result of the discrim-
ination against him, in the manner set forth in the remedy
section of the judge’s decision.
(c) Compensate Martin Lauster for the adverse tax
consequences, if any, of receiving a lump-sum backpay
award, and file with the Regional Director for Region 25,
within 21 days of the date such award is fixed, either by
agreement or Board order, a report allocating the back-
pay award to the appropriate calendar year(s).
(d) File with the Regional Director for Region 25,
within 21 days of the date the amount of backpay is fixed
by agreement or Board order or such additional time as
the Regional Director may allow for good cause shown, a
copy of Martin Lauster’s corresponding W-2 form(s)
reflecting the backpay award.
(e) Within 14 days from the date of this Order, re-
move from its files any reference to the unlawful dis-
charge of Martin Lauster, and within 3 days thereafter,
notify him in writing that this has been done and that the
discharge will not be used against him in any way.
(f) Preserve and, within 14 days of a request, or such
additional time as the Regional Director may allow for
good cause shown, provide at a reasonable place desig-
nated by the Board or its agents, all payroll records, so-
cial security payment records, timecards, personnel rec-
ords and reports, and all other records, including an elec-
tronic copy of such records if stored in electronic form,
necessary to analyze the amount of backpay due under
the terms of this Order.
(g) Post at its Indianapolis, Indiana facility copies of
the attached notice marked “Appendix.”4 Copies of the
notice, on forms provided by the Regional Director for
Region 25, after being signed by the Respondent’s au-
thorized representative, shall be posted by the Respond-
ent and maintained for 60 consecutive days in conspicu-
ous places, including all places where notices to employ-
ees are customarily posted. In addition to physical post-
ing of paper notices, notices shall be distributed electron-
ically, such as by email, posting on an intranet or an in-
ternet site, and/or other electronic means, if the Respond-
ent customarily communicates with its employees by
such means. The Respondent shall take reasonable steps
to ensure that the notices are not altered, defaced, or cov-
ered by any other material. If the Respondent has gone
out of business or closed the facility involved in these
proceedings, the Respondent shall duplicate and mail, at
its own expense, a copy of the notice to all current em-
ployees and former employees employed by the Re-
spondent at any time since November 18, 2020.
(h) Within 21 days after service by the Region, file
with the Regional Director for Region 25 a sworn certifi-
cation of a responsible official on a form provided by the
Region attesting to the steps that the Respondent has
taken to comply.
IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that the complaint is dismissed
insofar as it alleges violations of the Act not specifically
found.
Dated, Washington, D.C. November 22, 2022
______________________________________
Lauren McFerran, Chairman
4 If the facility involved in these proceedings is open and staffed by
a substantial complement of employees, the notices must be posted
within 14 days after service by the Region. If the facility involved in
these proceedings is closed or not staffed by a substantial complement
of employees due to the Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) pan-
demic, the notice must be posted within 14 days after the facility reo-
pens and a substantial complement of employees have returned to
work. If, while closed or not staffed by a substantial complement of
employees due to the pandemic, the Respondent is communicating with
its employees by electronic means, the notice must also be posted by
such electronic means within 14 days after service by the Region. If
the notice to be physically posted was posted electronically more than
60 days before physical posting of the notice, the notice shall state at
the bottom that “This notice is the same notice previously [sent or
posted] electronically on [date].” If this Order is enforced by a judg-
ment of a United States court of appeals, the words in the notice read-
ing “Posted by Order of the National Labor Relations Board” shall read
“Posted Pursuant to a Judgment of the United States Court of Appeals
Enforcing an Order of the National Labor Relations Board.”
CAPITOL STREET SURGERY CENTER, LLC
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______________________________________
Marvin E. Kaplan, Member
________________________________________
John F. Ring, Member
(SEAL) NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD
APPENDIX
NOTICE TOEMPLOYEES
POSTED BY ORDER OF THE
NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD
An Agency of the United States Government
The National Labor Relations Board has found that we
violated Federal labor law and has ordered us to post and
obey this notice.
FEDERAL LAW GIVES YOU THE RIGHT TO
Form, join, or assist a union
Choose representatives to bargain with us on
your behalf
Act together with other employees for your bene-
fit and protection
Choose not to engage in any of these protected
activities.
WE WILL NOT discharge or otherwise discriminate
against any of you for engaging in protected concerted
activities.
WE WILL NOT in any like or related manner interfere
with, restrain, or coerce you in the exercise of the rights
listed above.
WE WILL, within 14 days from the date of the Board’s
Order, offer Martin Lauster full reinstatement to his for-
mer job or, if that job no longer exists, to a substantially
equivalent position, without prejudice to his seniority or
any other rights or privileges previously enjoyed.
WE WILL make Martin Lauster whole for any loss of
earnings and other benefits resulting from his discharge,
less any net interim earnings, plus interest, and WE WILL
also make him whole for reasonable search-for-work and
interim employment expenses, plus interest.
WE WILL compensate Martin Lauster for the adverse
tax consequences, if any, of receiving a lump-sum back-
pay award, and WE WILL file with the Regional Director
for Region 25, within 21 days of the date the amount of
backpay is fixed, either by agreement or Board order, a
report allocating the backpay award to the appropriate
calendar year(s).
WE WILL file with the Regional Director for Region
25, within 21 days of the date the amount of backpay is
fixed by agreement or Board order or such additional
time as the Regional Director may allow for good cause
shown, a copy of Martin Lauster’s corresponding W-2
form(s) reflecting the backpay award.
WE WILL, within 14 days from the date of the Board’s
Order, remove from our files any reference to the unlaw-
ful discharge of Martin Lauster, and WE WILL, within 3
days thereafter, notify him in writing that this has been
done and that the discharge will not be used against him
in any way.
CAPITOL STREET SURGERY CENTER,
LLC
The
Board’s
decision
can
be
found
at
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the QR code below. Alternatively, you can obtain a copy
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Ashley M. Miller, Esq., for the General Counsel.
Gregory W. Guevara, Esq., for the Respondent.
John R. Panico, Esq., for the Charging Party.
DECISION
STATEMENT OF THE CASE
ROBERT A. GIANNASI, Administrative Law Judge. This case
was tried virtually in the Zoom for Government platform from
July 13 to July 15, 2021, before Judge Elizabeth Tafe. Briefs
were submitted on August 19, 2021. On April 25, 2022, Judge
Tafe left the Division of Judges without issuing the decision in
this case and is thus unavailable to complete the decision within
the meaning of Rule 102.36(b) of the Board’s Rules and Regu-
lations. The parties agreed that a newly appointed judge could
issue the decision on the record made before Judge Tafe. I was
subsequently assigned the case to write the decision.
The complaint alleges that the Respondent violated Section
8(a)(1) of the Act by discharging employee Martin Lauster for
raising concerns, in an employee meeting, about which em-
ployees could use certain equipment, a protected activity under
the Act. On the second day of the trial, the General Counsel
was permitted to amend the complaint to add another allegation
that Respondent had violated Section 8(a)(1) by interrogating
employees during trial preparation without giving the appropri-
ate warnings and safeguards under Johnnie’s Poultry, 146
NLRB 770 (1964). See Tr. 272–281. Respondent denied the
DECISIONS OF THE NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD
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essential allegations in the complaint.
Based on the filed briefs and the entire record, including the
testimony of the witnesses, I make the following
FINDINGS OF FACT
I. JURISDICTION
Respondent, a limited liability corporation with an office and
place of business in Indianapolis, Indiana, operates an ambula-
tory outpatient surgery center. During a representative one-
year period, Respondent, in conducting its operation as above
described, derived gross revenues in excess of $250,000 and
purchased and received, at its Indianapolis facility, goods val-
ued in excess of $5000 directly from points outside Indiana.
Accordingly, I find, as Respondent admits, that it is an employ-
er engaged in commerce within the meaning of Section 2(2),
(6), and (7) of the Act.
II. ALLEGED UNFAIR LABOR PRACTICES
A. The Facts
Background
Respondent employs some 25–27 employees at its ambulato-
ry outpatient surgery center. Those employees include admin-
istrative and support staff, doctors, nurses, and interventional
radiologic technologists (IR Techs). Tr. 21–22, 550–551. Dr.
Sanjay Mohindra is the only interventional radiology doctor at
the center, although he is not an employee of Respondent. Tr.
407, 550. Brandon Ehret, who has no medical or clinical back-
ground (Tr. 28–29), is Respondent’s administrator, with overall
responsibility and authority over the employees and related
personnel matters. Tr. 21–23. He is an admitted supervisor
and agent.
Interventional radiology procedures are part of a group of
surgeries performed at Respondent’s facility and they are per-
formed in two of the four operating rooms at the facility—
Rooms 3 and 4. Tr. 484. The procedures require the utilization
of IR Techs, who are primarily responsible for running the C-
arm, which is a radiation machine that provides x-ray images.
Tr. 111, 229, 443, 516. They are the only employees registered
and licensed to use the C-arm and the license is required as part
of the Respondent’s employment process. Tr. 49, 111–112,
229. One of a number of IR Techs employed by Respondent
until his termination on November 18, 2020, was Martin
Lauster.
Lauster and the other IR Techs report to Lead IR Techs Dan-
ielle Mohindra, Dr. Mohindra’s wife, and Jennifer Lozano, who
assign the IR Techs their work and provide written evaluations
of the IR Techs that are used in connection with promotions
and disciplinary actions. They also set the hours, schedule
shifts, including starting and ending times, and make room
assignments for the IR Techs; and they approve vacation dates
and time off requests for the IR Techs. Tr. 27–30, 115, 441–
446, 513–517. The employee handbook (GC Exh. 2) confirms
that those who advise employees of their scheduled shifts and
starting and ending times are supervisors. And Mohindra con-
ceded that no one else is involved in the scheduling process.
Tr. 445. There is thus no doubt that Mohindra and Lozano as-
sign work to employees and responsibly direct them beyond
what would be routine or clerical in nature, using independent
judgment within the broad meaning of two of the specific defi-
nitions of a supervisor in Section 2(11) of the Act. Their re-
sponsibility in writing evaluations for use in promotions and
discipline also brings in other authority listed in Section 2(11),
including, at the least, effective recommendations for those
actions. Accordingly, I find that Lead IR Techs Mohindra and
Lozano are supervisors within the meaning of the Act. See
Oakwood Healthcare, Inc., 348 NLRB 686 (2006). Moreover,
the evidence set forth above, as well as evidence that the Lead
IR Techs arrange for and run quarterly meetings of employees
(Tr. 447–448), including the one discussed later in this deci-
sion, shows that they have the actual or apparent authority to
speak and act on Respondent’s behalf. They are thus also
agents of Respondent under Section 2(13) of the Act. See Bill’s
Electric, Inc., 350 NLRB 292, 292 fn. 2 (2007).1
Lauster’s Employment Record
Lauster’s December 20, 2019, written evaluation rated him
as “always exceeds the standard” for employee dependability,
attendance, cooperation in the workplace and interpersonal
skills. His overall summary was deemed “usually exceeds the
standard,” with the following narrative: “[Lauster] is very relia-
ble & flexible. He’s willing to accommodate the scheduling
needs of the center by coming in early or staying late. [He] has
a very cheerful attitude & is willing to do anything that is asked
of him.” In the section titled “future training and growth,” the
evaluation states that Lauster “needs to work on being more
focused in the procedures, by paying attention & anticipating
the needs of the case & physician.” The evaluation was pre-
pared by then-Director of Nursing Shannon Genovese and
signed by Administrator Ehret. GC Exh. 5, Tr. 329–332, 343.
Genovese remained employed by Respondent until after
Lauster’s termination and worked closely with Lauster during
that time. She testified that Lauster’s work performance
throughout the remainder of his employment was consistent
with what she wrote in that evaluation. Tr. 335.
There was no other written comment or discipline concern-
ing Lauster’s work and no written or documented verbal warn-
ings issued to him from the time of the above evaluation to the
date of Lauster’s termination on November 18, 2020. This
despite Respondent’s handbook policy specifically providing
that, “[i]n most cases [Respondent] will use progressive disci-
plinary actions before dismissing employees.” The handbook
policy also provides for the use of disciplinary action to “fairly
and impartially correct behavior and performance problems
early on to prevent recurrence.” The policy specifically pro-
vides for “verbal warning, written warning, suspension with or
without pay, and termination of employment, depending on the
severity of the problem and the frequency of occurrence.” Fi-
nally, the policy specifically lists a number of offenses that
1 In its answer Respondent denied that the Lead IR Techs were su-
pervisors and agents and it makes a cursory reference in its brief (R. Br.
at 19) to the alleged failure of the General Counsel to prove the allega-
tions. But Respondent does not discuss the facts and the legal issues in
any detail, thus failing completely to rebut the General Counsel’s evi-
dence of supervisory and agency status.
CAPITOL STREET SURGERY CENTER, LLC
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justify immediate termination “without observing other disci-
plinary action first,” such as workplace violence, harassment,
theft, insubordination, vandalism, unauthorized use of company
property, indiscretion about work history, divulging confiden-
tial information, misrepresentation, and presence on company
property during non-work hours. GC Exh. 2.
The November 5, 2020 Meeting
On November 5, Supervisors and Lead IR Techs Mohindra
and Lozano led a meeting with interventional radiology em-
ployees to discuss inventory and related issues. They prepared
an agenda and checked beforehand with Ehret, who cleared the
agenda and added a new topic, which reads as follows: “Bran-
don would like us to rotate into OR when C-arm is needed dur-
ing our working hours. Chelsy will run C-arm (early) cases.”
GC Exh. 4, Tr. 34–35, 431, 448–449. Ehret did not attend the
meeting. Among the other people present at the meeting were
Dr. Mohindra and employees Marty Lauster, Amber Rollins
and Cassandra Shephard, who recorded a good part of the meet-
ing and the recording was received in evidence as GC Exh.
10(c). I have listened to the recording and the findings below
are based on my assessment of the recording, along with testi-
mony about the meeting.2
At some point, Danielle Mohindra raised the C-arm issue,
stating that when the C-arm was to be used during hours when
no IR Techs were at work, Chelsy Perry, a nurse, was to run the
C-arm. Lauster immediately objected. He stated that Chelsy
Perry was an RN and not allowed to run the C-arm, adding that
that would be illegal. Lauster’s concern was that Perry was not
licensed to run the C-arm like the IR Techs. Tr. 122–123,
176,181–183, 198. At that point, other IR Techs, including
Amber Rollins, joined in, supporting Lauster’s position. See
Tr. 181–183, 202–204, 207, 243, 254–255.3
2
Lauster testified that the recording does not capture all of what
was said at the meeting and certainly what is recorded often reflects
many people talking at the same time. Tr. 205-207. Shepard also
acknowledged some difficulties in understanding what was said and by
whom.
Tr. 243–255. My assessment of the recording confirms
Shephard’s view. Most of the recording deals with inventory issues but
certainly there is a discrete part that deals with the C-arm issue and
what happen if nurses and not IR Techs were permitted to run the C-
arm.
3 On cross-examination of Lauster, Respondent’s counsel ques-
tioned whether the recording reflected Lauster stating, as he testified,
that it would be illegal for a nurse to run the C-arm would, emphasizing
that it was Rollins who said it would be “prosecutable.” It is true that
the recording reflects a lot of people speaking at the same time and
Rollins, who was closer to the site of the recording device than Lauster,
was probably more clearly understood than Lauster. But Lauster was
adamant in insisting that he said letting an unlicensed nurse run the C-
arm would be illegal. I would tend to credit him because I found him
credible in other parts of his testimony, as discussed later in this deci-
sion. I also note that Lauster was acutely protective of his licensed
status, having previously spoken with his fellow IR Techs about license
compliance issues (Tr. 124) and later contacting the director of the
State office of radiology to discuss the legality of using a non-licensed
person for this procedure. Tr. 182, 187. But, even without that specific
reference, it is clear that Lauster was the person who raised the issue
and prompted the entire discussion dealing with employee objections to
using unlicensed personnel to run the C-arm.
After a rather heated discussion dealing with concerns over
the use of unlicensed people running the C-arm, Lozano
summed up the Respondent’s position. She told the employees
that “[I]f that’s the case”, then the IR Techs should be prepared
to start coming in early and staying late “so you know before
we go down this rabbit hole, I’m just pointing it out.” GC Exh.
10(c).
Those comments prompted a discussion about coming in ear-
ly and staying late and what the employees should do about
their hours. This is clearly reflected in the recording. Also
clearly reflected in the recording is Dr. Mohindra’s lengthy
statement in support of paying overtime to the IR Techs if they
were required to come in early and stay late. GC Exh. 10(c). 4
That this was an important issue for the employees is also
shown by Lauster’s credible testimony that he had had previous
discussions about the issue with a number of people, including
Supervisor-Lead IR Techs Mohindra and Lozano, and was told
that Respondent did not want to pay overtime to the IR Techs.
Tr. 123–124.5
Ehret testified that normally one of the Lead IR Techs would
report to him what happened in similar employee meetings. Tr.
32. And he specifically admitted that, after the November 5
meeting, Danielle reported what had happened in the meeting
to him in person. Tr. 35.6
The Termination of Lauster
After the November 5 meeting, which was on a Thursday,
Lauster worked the next day, Friday, but did not work the entire
next week because of a medical issue. He returned to work on
Monday, November 16, 2020. Tr. 124–125. He was terminated
at the end of the work day on Wednesday, November 18, 2020.
4 The General Counsel alleges that the recording has Danielle Moh-
indra stating that she would ask Ehret how the employees could man-
age their hours and report back to them. That may well be, but I cannot
make that finding with exactitude, although I did hear someone speak-
ing with authority say, “I will ask him that.” I also note that the written
version of the recording set forth in Respondent’s brief omits the part,
which is significant in my view, where the employees questioned their
hours and where Dr. Mohindra spoke favorably about paying overtime
to the IR Techs.
5
I credit Lauster’s firm testimony on this issue. Mohindra and
Lozano testified they could not “recall” such conversations. Tr. 435,
510. My determination on this issue is also confirmed by my assess-
ment of the credibility of these witnesses discussed later in this deci-
sion.
6 Despite the above clear admission by Ehret, he later suggested he
knew nothing about the discussion of the C-arm in the November 5
meeting. Tr. 567. Mohindra and Lozano likewise denied telling Ehret
about the meeting or its contents. I do not credit the testimony that
Ehret was not told of the discussions in the November 5 meeting about
the objections by the IR Techs to the use of non-licensed personnel to
run the C-arm and particularly the fact that Lauster raised the issue. I
find it implausible that such an important and controversial issue, in-
cluding the comments of Dr. Mohindra about permitting overtime for
IR Techs, would not have been reported to Ehret, especially since he
was the one who put the issue on the agenda for the meeting. The
contradictions on this issue within Ehret’s own testimony and between
his testimony and that of Mohindra and Lozano show that their denials
are not credible. This matches their inconsistencies on other matters,
which I discuss later in this decision.
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At the end of his workday on November 18, Lauster was
summoned to Ehret’s office, where they were joined by Ehret’s
aide, Chris McGlaughlin. At the termination meeting, Ehret
told Lauster, “We’re all adults here. It’s clear you don’t want
to be here, so we’re going to make our separation here now.”
Lauster responded, “why don’t we call it a constructive dis-
charge?” Tr. 134–135. Ehret then confirmed the termination
and told Lauster to collect his things and leave. Ehret did not
provide Lauster with a specific reason for the discharge and
raised no performance issues in the meeting. Tr. 135–136, 186.
The above is based on the credible, direct and clear testimo-
ny of Lauster. McGlaughlin did not testify and Ehret’s testi-
mony on what was said in the interview was vague and frankly
meaningless. According to Ehret, he and Lauster discussed
“the continued digression and lack of progression in the skill
work . . . there was no improvement and it was actually going
backwards.” Tr. 94. Ehret also testified that he told Lauster he
was terminated and he escorted him out of the facility. Tr.
566–567. He did not dispute Lauster’s testimony that he did
not give Lauster a specific reason for the termination. And
Ehret conceded that, when he told Lauster it appeared that he
did not want to be there, Lauster disputed that and said “yes, I
do.” Tr. 556–557.
Credibility Determinations as to What Really Happened on
November 18, 2020
Danielle Mohindra testified that, during a procedure on No-
vember 18, she observed Lauster taking an emergency flash-
light off the wall and playfully shining it into a nurse’s eye. Tr.
418–421. She did not mention the matter to Lauster at the time
and she also testified that she did not remember anything else
about “that procedure that day.” Tr. 424. She did, however,
mention the flashlight incident to Ehret later in the day, and, at
his request, wrote up the incident. The document was titled
“Employee Write Up,” dated November 18, 2020, and signed
by Brandon Ehret. It cited Lauster for a violation of unspeci-
fied “safety rules.” The write up also stated that the nurse,
who was not identified in the write-up, asked Lauster to “stop
two different times.” GC Exh. 6, Tr. 94, 424, 425. Mohindra
never discussed the write-up with Lauster. Tr. 428.
According to Lauster’s credible, direct, and clear testimony,
the write up was not given to Lauster in the termination meet-
ing. He did not even see the document until shortly before the
hearing. Tr. 132, 167. Nor was the substance of the write-up
discussed in the termination meeting. Tr. 134–136. Ehret did
not contradict that testimony of Lauster. He testified he could
not recall whether the document was given to Lauster or even
whether the subject matter was discussed in the termination
interview. Tr. 94-95. Had this topic been discussed it would
have been obvious that the person doing the termination would
have recalled the matter. Significantly, Ehret never investigat-
ed the incident by talking to either Lauster or the nurse in-
volved in the alleged incident or anyone else in the room during
the procedure. All of this casts serious doubt on whether the
flashlight incident was a reason for the discharge or even
whether it occurred as reflected in the write-up that was not
provided to Lauster.
I also have doubts about Mohindra’s testimony with respect
to the flashlight incident itself, particularly the part included in
the write-up that stated the nurse told Lauster twice to stop
shining the flashlight in her face. None of the other participants
in the procedure corroborated Mohindra on this matter.
Lauster denied deliberately shining a flashlight in the eyes of
the nurse, who was identified as Leyda Enid Feliu Corchado
(herein referred to as Feliu or Nurse Feliu). Tr. 135. He testi-
fied that he retrieved the flashlight that was on the wall for use
in an emergency because Nurse Feliu asked him to retrieve it.
She needed to check to see if it worked because it had previous-
ly been inoperative. He took it to her and it was turned on to
see if it worked and they both agreed that it did. The whole
incident, according to Lauster, lasted less than two minutes and
neither Mohindra nor Lozano said anything to him about the
matter. Tr. 129–131. Indeed, Mohindra admitted she did not
intervene to tell Lauster to stop (Tr. 462), countering any sug-
gestion on her part that this was a safety issue. Mohindra never
talked to Lauster about the incident. Nor did she even talk to
Nurse Feliu. Tr. 465.
Nurse Feliu supported Lauster’s version of the incident. Fe-
liu, who was employed by Respondent at the time of the hear-
ing and testifying against its interests, was for that reason alone
a reliable witness. But her testimony is also very reliable be-
cause she was the subject of the alleged impropriety. She testi-
fied that the statements in the write-up were not accurate. Tr.
311. Feliu also testified that she asked Lauster to retrieve the
emergency flashlight from off the wall in the room and bring it
to her because she wanted to see if it worked, knowing that it
had not previously been working. Feliu asked Lauster to turn it
on toward her so that she could see if it worked. He did and the
flashlight worked so she told him to put it back, which he did.
Feliu denied that she told Lauster to stop shining the flashlight
in her eyes, even “one time.” Tr. 309–312. According to Feliu,
whose testimony survived cross-examination, the entire inci-
dent lasted some 30 seconds and no one mentioned the incident
at the time. Tr. 306–310, 321. This is not only contrary to the
description in the Lauster write-up, but it is also in substantial
accord with Lauster’s testimony, notwithstanding a minor dis-
crepancy between the two witnesses as to whether Lauster
handed Feliu the flashlight or simply turned it on so she could
see that it worked.
The testimony of Nurse Genovese, who was also present
during this procedure, is consistent with that of Lauster and
Nurse Feliu and contrary to that of Mohindra. See Tr. 336–
341. She specifically denied that Feliu told Lauster to stop
shining the flashlight in her eyes. Tr. 341. Genovese reaf-
firmed her testimony on cross-examination. Tr. 346–352.7
Lozano, who was present during the procedure when the Fe-
liu flashlight incident allegedly occurred, testified that she did
not observe the incident as described by Mohindra. She specif-
ically denied hearing Feliu tell Lauster to stop flashing it into
her eyes twice. Tr. 522, 540. Because, as discussed later, she
7
I found no reason to doubt Genovese’s testimony because, as
counsel for Respondent pointed out (Tr. 352–354), a description of the
incident was not included in her pre-trial affidavit. There certainly was
no inconsistency and Genovese’s testimony was corroborated by other
witnesses, as indicated above.
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described another incident involving the flashlight during the
same procedure and because she was in the room during the
whole procedure and Mohindra was not, it would have been
likely, if the Feliu flashlight incident had occurred as Mohindra
described it and had it been deemed significant, Lozano would
have observed it.8
Based on the above, I do not credit Mohindra’s testimony as
to what happened during the flashlight incident. I also find that
the write-up, GC Exh. 6, is not an accurate description of what
happened during the procedure depicted in the write-up. My
decision to discredit Mohindra is also based on another problem
I had with her testimony about another matter, which I believe
casts doubt on her overall reliability as a witness. That matter
dealt with Mohindra’s testimony about what was discussed
during the November 5 meeting, which was inconsistent with a
pre-trial statement she provided to the Board. In her affidavit
she had stated that the only topic of discussion in the November
5 meeting was inventory. But she conceded during the trial that
there was discussion about having a nurse use the C-arm being
“prosecutable.” Tr. 453–454. In any event, as to the flashlight
incident, I credit the testimony of Lauster, Feliu, and Genovese
over that of Mohindra. In short, the incident was unworthy of
discipline or discharge. It was not even an impropriety.
Lozano did testify about two other things that happened dur-
ing the same procedure—seeing Lauster do “hand puppets on
the wall,” using the flashlight (Tr. 502); and not running the C-
arm properly so that Mohindra had to take it over for the sec-
ond half of the procedure, which, according to Lozano, was
“unusual.” Tr. 528, 532. Lozano also testified that Lauster did
not properly set up the room for the last procedure of the day.
Tr. 503–504. She reported all three of these perceived prob-
lems to Ehret at the end of the day. Tr. 504–505, 533–534.
I did not find Lozano a reliable witness on what she reported
about Lauster on November 18. Her description of the hand
puppet incident was not only not corroborated by Mohindra
(she said she did not see it, Tr. 460), but Lozano was seriously
undercut on that issue when counsel for General Counsel ques-
tioned her again on re-cross-examination. See Tr. 544–546.
Nor did anyone else corroborate Lozano on the puppets on the
wall allegation. Lauster denied doing what Lozano alleged (Tr.
136) and Genovese and Feliu did not see what was alleged;
indeed, Feliu said the room was too bright for the shadows
described by Lozano. Tr. 323, 339–340. Lozano, who admit-
ted the hand puppets incident lasted for only “a minute or two”
(Tr. 546), did not intervene to stop Lauster from doing the pup-
pets or speak to him at all about the matter. Tr. 545. This even
though Ehret testified that Lozano had the authority to address
the situation right then. Tr. 83.9
I found it even more significant that Mohindra did not cor-
8 There is also some doubt whether Mohindra was even in the room
when the flashlight incident took place. She normally leaves work at
about 2 pm (Tr. 538–539) and both Lauster and Feliu testified that
Mohindra was not in the room when the flashlight incident took place.
See Tr. 190–191, 309, 321–322, 595.
9 Lozano seemed confused about when this procedure took place, at
one point fixing it during the late morning or early afternoon, contrary
to her pre-trial affidavit, which fixed the time as the first procedure of
the day. Tr. 528–529.
roborate Lozano on the latter’s testimony that, during the same
procedure involving the puppets on the wall, Mohindra had to
take over the C-arm for Lauster for the second half of the pro-
cedure. If that had happened, it would certainly have been
serious enough—Lozano called it “unusual”—to warrant testi-
mony about the matter from the Lead IR Tech who had to take
over that procedure. On the contrary, not only did Mohindra
not corroborate the charge, but Lauster specifically denied it.
Tr. 594–595. Nor did anyone else support Lozano’s testimony
in this respect, even though there were other people in the room
at the time. Finally, Ehret did not mention being told by either
Lozano or Mohindra about Mohindra having to take over the C-
arm. Because, as Lozano testified, what Mohindra did was so
“unusual,” if it had happened and been reported to Ehret, as
Lozano testified, it certainly would have been mentioned by
Ehret in his testimony.10
Ehret confirmed that, at the end of the day on November 18,
Lozano and Mohindra made separate reports to him about
Lauster. According to Ehret, Lozano came to his office first
and told him that Lauster was “making hand puppets on the
wall with a flashlight” during one procedure and had set up the
room improperly in the other. But he could not recall any of
the details beyond that. Tr. 82–83. Ehret considered the hand
puppet incident a potential safety problem and, at this point,
made a decision to terminate Lauster. He instructed his aide,
Chris McGlaughlin, to prepare the termination email for
Lauster’s discharge. Tr. 86, 89–91. He also told Lozano to go
back to the room, although it is not clear for what purpose. See
Tr. 87–88. Oddly enough, even though, at this point, Ehret
supposedly made his discharge decision, he did not have Loza-
no document her view of Lauster’s alleged improprieties (Tr.
86, 565), as he did Mohindra’s view of a different alleged im-
propriety, as shown below.
After that, within 5 minutes, according to Ehret, Danielle
Mohindra came into Ehret’s office to report that Lauster had
shone a flashlight into a nurse’s eyes, as described above. And
he told Mohindra to prepare the write-up that has been previ-
ously discussed. Tr. 91–93. Ehret did not speak to the nurse
who was involved in the incident. Tr. 93.
Ehret testified that his discharge decision was based on a
long list of alleged deficiencies, most of which were of long
duration and did not occur on November 18 and none of which
were mentioned in the termination interview with Lauster.
Those included: focusing during cases, dropping wires, doo-
dling and drawing figures with a marker, not progressing
properly, being a distraction, falling asleep during a meeting
and in the nurse’s office, shining an emergency flashlight, and
setting up a room incorrectly. See Tr. 63–66. Nor, except for
the flashlight incident, were any of those alleged deficiencies
memorialized in a written documentation. Tr. 66–67. Accord-
ing to Ehret, a “majority” of these problems conveniently oc-
curred after Lauster’s favorable evaluation since that evaluation
10 Because of Lozano’s general unreliability as a witness, I specifi-
cally reject her testimony about Lauster’s alleged failure to properly set
up the room in the final procedure of the day. Lauster specifically
denied he did so incorrectly (Tr. 164–165) and no one else supported
Lozano’s testimony in this respect.
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had not mentioned the deficiencies alleged by Ehret. Tr. 67.
Lauster credibly denied the allegations or that the alleged defi-
ciencies were the subjects of talks or warnings by Ehret. Tr.
136–138, 597. Genovese, who had prepared Lauster’s favora-
ble evaluation, confirmed that the performance of Lauster, with
whom she worked regularly until his discharge, remained the
same as she noted in that evaluation. Tr. 335.
I found Ehret’s testimony about Lauster’s alleged problems,
which Ehret admitted were not mentioned to Lauster in the
termination interview (Tr. 94), completely unreliable. It was an
obvious after-the fact attempt to buttress the vague and unspeci-
fied reason given for the discharge at the time. As indicated,
the November 18 write-up of Lauster for the flashlight incident
was the only written documentation of his alleged failings and
he was not even shown or presented with that write-up—or
even asked about his version of the incident set forth in the
write-up.
In contrast, two other contemporaneous discharges, one for
Lacy Richardson on December 6, 2019, and another for
Melania James on January 16, 2020, were supported by lengthy
write-ups dated the same day as their discharges. Tr. 95–101,
104–107, GC Exh. 7. Those write-ups detailed the shortcom-
ings of the employees in the same manner as Ehret discussed
Lauster’s shortcomings in his testimony. In fact, James had
violated patient safety, as allegedly also had Lauster (Tr. 106).
But Lauster’s write-up is limited to the flashlight issue, which,
as mentioned above, was not an accurate reflection of the inci-
dent. There was no detailed listing of performance failures in
Lauster’s write-up as there were in the write-ups of Richardson
and James. The difference in the write-ups shows that when
Respondent wants to support a discharge, it does so in a well-
supported documentation, as set forth in its handbook discipli-
nary policy. Lauster’s situation was not handled that way. In
fact, his termination information supplied by the Respondent in
a subpoena says nothing about patient safety and appears to be
incomplete or inaccurate. See Tr. 106.
Because the testimony of Lozano, Danielle Mohindra, and
Ehret about what happened on November 18, discussed above,
was so contradictory, I cannot rely on any of their testimony on
the matter. I found more reliable the testimony of Lauster,
Feliu, and Genovese. Indeed, the testimonial unreliability of
Ehret, Lozano and Mohindra about what happened on the day
of the discharge leads me to reject their testimony on anything
of importance in this case. But there is more. I have already
commented about their unreliable testimony about reporting the
results of the November 5 meeting to Ehret, in the face of his
admission that Mohindra did report the results of the meeting to
him. I also note Ehret’s unreliable testimony about Lauster’s
performance issues, which were not mentioned in the termina-
tion interview or in documentary evidence. Had those perfor-
mance issues actually occurred and been deemed serious, they
would have been documented, as they were in other instances
and in accordance with Respondent’s handbook disciplinary
policies. And they would have been specifically mentioned in
the termination interview.
B. Discussion and Analysis
The Discharge of Employee Lauster
It is settled that an employer violates Section 8(a)(1) of the
Act if it disciplines or discharges an employee because that
employee engaged in protected concerted activity within the
meaning of Section 7 of the Act. Marburn Academy Inc., 368
NLRB No. 38 (2019), citing and discussing numerous authori-
ties. This part of the case basically presents an issue of motiva-
tion. Such cases are analyzed under the causation test set forth
in Wright Line, 251 NLRB 1083 (1980), enf’d on other grounds
662 F.2d 899 (1st Cir. 1981), cert. denied 455 U.S. 989 (1982),
approved in NLRB v. Transportation Management Corp., 462
U.S. 393 (1983). Under Wright Line, the General Counsel must
satisfy an initial burden of showing by a preponderance of the
evidence that the employee’s protected activity was a motivat-
ing factor in a respondent’s adverse action. If the General
Counsel meets that initial burden, the burden shifts to the re-
spondent to show that it would have taken the same action even
absent the employee’s protected activity. The respondent does
not meet its burden merely by showing that it had a legitimate
reason for its action; it must persuasively demonstrate that it
would have taken the same action in the absence of the protect-
ed conduct. But if the respondent’s proffered reasons are pre-
textual—either false or not actually relied on—the respondent
fails by definition to meet its burden of showing it would have
taken the action for those reasons absent the protected activity.
Hard Hat Services, LLC, 366 NLRB No. 106, slip op. 7 (2018),
and cases there cited.
A showing of pretext also supports the initial showing of
discrimination. See Wright Line, supra, 251 NLRB at 1088
n.12, citing Shattuck Denn Mining Corp. v. NLRB, 362 F.2d
466, 470 (9th Cir. 1966) (where a respondent’s reasons are
false, it can be inferred “that the [real] motive is one that the
[respondent] desires to conceal—an unlawful motive—at least
where . . . the surrounding facts tend to reinforce that infer-
ence.”). In this respect, it is clear that a trier-of-fact may not
only reject a witness’s testimony about his or her reasons for an
adverse action, but also find that the truth is the opposite of that
testimony. Hard Hat Services, cited above, 366 NLRB No.
106, slip op. 7, citing NLRB v. Walton Mfg. Co., 369 U.S. 404,
408 (1962). In addition to pretext, animus is shown by shifting
or inconsistent reasons offered by the respondent to justify the
action and disparate treatment in the application of the adverse
action. See Airgas USA, LLC, 366 NLRB No. 104, slip op. 2
(2018), enforced, 916 F.3d 550, 560–561 (6th Cir. 2019).
Applying the above principles, I find that Respondent dis-
charged Lauster for engaging in protected concerted activity—
his lead role in being the first to object to the use of nurses to
utilize the C-arm instead of licensed IR Techs, during the No-
vember 5 meeting, thus provoking a lengthy discussion of the
matter by employees and supervisors alike. The Respondent
does not seriously dispute that Lauster was engaged in protect-
ed concerted activity during the November 5 meeting but does
dispute that the discharge was motivated by that activity.
The evidence of unlawful motivation, including its causal
connection to the discharge, is supported by the timing of the
discharge, which came within two weeks of the November 5,
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2020, meeting—actually only 4 of Lauster’s work days. Con-
trary to Respondent’s contention, the requisite knowledge is
established by the presence at the meeting of Supervisors Moh-
indra and Lozano, whose knowledge is necessarily imputed to
the Respondent, as well as my credibility determination that
they reported the matter to the decision maker, Administrator
Ehret. The inference is clear that Lauster’s leading role in rais-
ing the objection to the use of nurses to run the C-arm and the
related support he engendered among the employees was prob-
lematic for the Respondent. Lauster’s objection prompted a
discussion of how the IR Techs were to use their hours, which
were obviously limited to prevent overtime, and to a clear
statement of support from Dr. Mohindra for overtime for IR
Techs, if necessary. In the midst of the discussion, Supervisor
Lozano warned employees that they might have to come in
early and stay late if they went down the “rabbit hole” of ob-
jecting to Respondent’s plan to use nurses to run the C-arm.
This presented a Hobson’s choice for Ehret: Either stick by his
guns to have nurses use the C-arm, as was his plan, and deal
with the objections initiated by Lauster; or face the pressure to
pay overtime to the IR Techs. The obvious solution was to get
rid of the person who had initiated the objections to his plan to
have nurses use the C-arm. Lauster had raised this matter in the
past during discussions with fellow employees as well as Su-
pervisors Lozano and Mohindra. Lozano’s “rabbit hole” re-
marks at the November 5 meeting suggest a level of animus
against employee objections to Respondent’s working condi-
tions, but it is also well settled that “[t]iming alone” supports
animus as a motivating factor in an employer’s adverse action.
NLRB v. Rain-Ware, Inc., 732 F.2d 1349, 1354 (7th Cir. 1984).
Other factors supporting a finding of discrimination include
the following: No specific reason was given to Lauster for the
termination and no investigation was done of the flashlight
incident that was the subject of a write-up that was not even
shared with Lauster in the termination interview. Nor were the
other alleged deficiencies on the day of the discharge investi-
gated. As the Board has stated, “An employer’s failure to per-
mit an employee to defend himself before imposing discipline
supports an inference that the employer’s motive was unlaw-
ful.” West Maui Resort Partners, 340 NLRB 846, 849 (2003),
citing authorities.
Moreover, Administrator Ehret, who made the discharge de-
cision, testified as to other shifting and contradictory reasons
for the discharge. None of these other reasons were either men-
tioned to Lauster at the time of his discharge or documented, as
they were, in great detail, in the discharges of other employees,
thus showing disparate treatment. Finally, Lauster was dis-
charged without regard to the progressive discipline and other
provisions of Respondent’s disciplinary policy as set forth in its
handbook. Accordingly, I find, consistent with my earlier cred-
ibility determinations, that the testimonial reasons offered by
Ehret for Lauster’s discharge were pretexts intended to conceal
the real reason for the discharge—Lauster’s protected concerted
activity. See Airgas, cited above, as well as David Saxe Pro-
ductions, LLC and V Theater Group, LLC, 370 NLRB No. 103,
slip op. 21, 35 (2021) and Security Walls, LLC, 371 NLRB No.
74, slip op. 4 (2022).
My finding of pretext—that the reasons advanced either do
not exist or were not relied on—of necessity means that Re-
spondent has not met its rebuttal burden and the “inquiry is
logically at an end.” Thermon Heat Tracing Services, Inc., 320
NLRB 1035, 1038 (1996), citing Wright-Line, supra. In these
circumstances, I find that, by discharging Lauster, Respondent
violated Section 8(a)(1) of the Act.
The Johnnie’s Poultry Allegation
On January 11, 2021, a charge was filed with the Board on
behalf of Lauster, alleging that he had had been unlawfully
terminated for engaging in protected concerted activity. After
receiving a copy of the charge, Ehret learned that employee
Cassandra Shepard had recorded the meeting of November 5,
2020, that had spawned Lauster’s charge. On January 28,
2021, Ehret approached Shepard in a hallway at the facility and
asked if she could provide him with the recording. She readily
agreed and she later emailed him a copy of the recording. Tr.
36–37, 237, 287.11
Putting aside the hyperbolic part of the General Counsel’s
assertion—that Ehret “forcefully interrogated” Shepard (Tr.
272), the basis of this allegation is that the brief conversation
described above and Shepard’s voluntary action in turning over
the recording to Ehret violated the requirements for the permis-
sible questioning of employees during an unfair labor practice
investigation in Johnnie’s Poultry, 146 NLRB 770 (1964).
Thus, according to the General Counsel, Respondent violated
Section 8(a)(1) of the Act. Permissible questioning in those
circumstances must be free from coercion and the employer
must affirmatively tell the employee the purpose of the ques-
tioning, that the employee’s participation is voluntary, and that
there will be no reprisals based on the employee’s participation.
Id. at 774–775.
I find no violation because Johnnie’s Poultry does not apply
in this situation. Ehret’s request for the recording was not an
interrogation in the sense that he sought information related to
protected activity within the knowledge of the person ques-
tioned. The danger in such interrogation and what makes it
coercive is that, when such information is uncovered, it is most
useful for possible future discrimination. That is not the situa-
tion here. Ehret sought the recording of an open meeting at-
tended by both employees and management, presumably to get
an accurate reading of what was said at the meeting. There was
no attempt to get anything more than a record of openly dis-
cussed matters and there was no pressure or coercion in the
request. Rather, this case is governed by the Board’s dismissal
of a Johnnie’s Poultry allegation dealing with a similar attempt
to obtain open information—in that case, a request of employ-
ees to provide an affidavit to the employer’s attorney about a
meeting between employees and management that was the
subject of a charge. See Safelite Glass, 283 NLRB 929, 950–
951 (1987). In Safelite, the Board cited Rossmore House, 269
NLRB 1176 (1984), for the proposition that questioning must
be considered in all the circumstances to determine whether it
is coercive. The Board also determined that the request in Safe-
lite was not calculated to inhibit employees from engaging in
11 The above is based on the mutually corroborative testimony of Eh-
ret and Shepard, even though there are minor differences in their testi-
mony about the conversation.
DECISIONS OF THE NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD
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protected activity and did not interfere with the Board’s inves-
tigatory processes. The same applies here. Accordingly, the
alleged violation of Section 8(a)(1) of the Act under Johnnie’s
Poultry is dismissed.12
CONCLUSIONS OF LAW
1. By discharging employee Martin Lauster because of his
protected concerted activities, Respondent violated Section
8(a)(1) of the Act.
2. The above violation constitutes an unfair labor practice
within the meaning of the Act.
3. The Respondent has not otherwise violated the Act.
REMEDY
Having found that Respondent engaged in an unfair labor
practice, I shall recommend that it be ordered to cease and de-
sist from its unlawful conduct and take certain affirmative ac-
tion designed to effectuate the policies of the Act, including the
posting of an appropriate notice.
Since Respondent unlawfully discharged Martin Lauster, I
shall recommend that it must offer him reinstatement to his
former job or, if that job no longer exits, to a substantially
equivalent position without prejudice to his seniority or any
other rights or privileges previously enjoyed. The Respondent
shall also make Lauster whole for any loss of earnings and
other benefits he may have suffered as a result of the unlawful
discrimination against him. The make-whole remedy shall be
computed in accordance with F.W. Woolworth Co., 90 NLRB
289 (1950), plus interest as prescribed in New Horizons, 283
NLRB 1173 (1987), compounded daily as prescribed in Ken-
tucky River Medical Center, 356 NLRB 6 (2010). In accord-
ance with King Soopers, Inc., 364 NLRB No. 93 (2016), enfd.
in pertinent part 859 F.3d 23 (D.C. Cir. 2017), Respondent shall
compensate Lauster for search-for-work and interim employ-
ment expenses regardless of whether those expenses exceed his
interim earnings, with interest. In accordance with AdvoServ of
New Jersey, Inc., 363 NLRB No. 143 (2016), Respondent shall
compensate Lauster for any adverse tax consequences of re-
ceiving a lump sum back pay award and shall, within 21 days
of the date the amount of backpay is fixed, either by agreement
or Board order, file, with the Regional Director of Region 25, a
report allocating the backpay to the appropriate calendar year.
In addition, in accordance with Containerboard Packaging-
Niagara, 370 NLRB No. 76, as modified in 371 NLRB No. 25
(2021), Respondent is ordered to file, with the Regional Direc-
tor for Region 25, a copy of Lauster’s W-2 form reflecting the
backpay award.
On these findings of fact and conclusions of law, and on the
entire record, I issue the following recommended13
12 On March 1, 2021, the Board invited briefs in Sunbelt Rentals,
Inc., 370 NLRB No. 94 (2021), on whether Johnnie’s Poultry should be
overruled and, if so, what the standard should be for employer ques-
tioning of employees in the preparation for a defense to an unfair labor
practice allegation.
13 If no exceptions are filed, as provided by Sec. 102.46 of the
Board’s Rules and Regulations, the findings, conclusions, and recom-
mended order shall, as provided in Sec. 102.48 of the Rules, be adopted
ORDER
Respondent, Capitol Street Surgery Center, LLC, its officers,
agents, successors and assigns, shall
1. Cease and desist from
(a) Discharging or otherwise disciplining employees for en-
gaging in protected concerted activity under Section 7 of the
Act.
(b) In any like or related manner, interfering with, restrain-
ing, or coercing employees in the exercise of the rights guaran-
teed them by Section 7 of the Act.
2. Take the following affirmative action necessary to effec-
tuate the policies of the Act.
(a) Within 14 days from the date of this order, offer Martin
Lauster reinstatement to his former job or, if that job no longer
exists, to a substantially equivalent position, without prejudice
to his seniority or any other rights and privileges previously
enjoyed.
(b) Make Martin Lauster whole for any loss of earnings and
other benefits suffered as a result of the discrimination against
his, in the manner set forth in the remedy section of this deci-
sion.
(c) Compensate Martin Lauster for the adverse tax conse-
quences, if any, of receiving a lump-sum backpay award, and
file with the Regional Director for Region 25, within 21 days of
the date the amount of backpay is fixed, either by agreement or
Board order, a report allocating the backpay award to the appro-
priate calendar years. Also file with the Regional Director for
Region 25 a copy of Lauster’s W-2 form reflecting the backpay
award.
(d) Within 14 days from the date of this order, remove from
its files any reference to the unlawful discharge of Martin
Lauster, and, within 3 days thereafter, notify him in writing that
is has been done and that the unlawful action will not be used
against him in any way.
(e) Preserve and, within 14 days of a request, or such addi-
tional time as the Regional Director may allow for good cause
shown, provide at a reasonable place designated by the Board
or its agents, all payroll records, social security payment
records, timecards, personnel records and reports, and all
other records, including an electronic copy of such records
if stored in electronic form, necessary to analyze the amount
of back pay due under the terms of this Order
(f) Within 14 days after appropriate notification by the Re-
gion, post, at Its Indianapolis, Indiana facility, copies of the
attached notice marked “Appendix.”14 Copies of the notice, on
forms provided by the Regional Director for Region 25, after
being signed by the Respondent’s authorized representative,
shall be posted by the Respondent and maintained for 60
consecutive days, in conspicuous places, including all plac-
es where notices to employees are customarily posted. In
by the Board and all objections to them shall be waived for all purpos-
es.
14 If this Order is enforced by a judgment of a United States court
of appeals, the words in the notice reading “Posted by Order of the
National Labor Relations Board” shall read “Posted pursuant to
a Judgment of the United States Court of Appeals Enforcing an
Order of the National Labor Relations Board.”
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addition to physical posting of paper notices, the notices shall
be distributed electronically, such as email, posting on an
intranet or an internet site, and/or other electronic means, if
the Respondent customarily communicates with employees by
such means. Reasonable steps shall be taken by the Re-
spondent to ensure that the notices are not altered, defaced,
or covered by any other material. In the event that, during
the pendency of these proceedings, the Respondent has gone
out of business or closed the facility involved in these pro-
ceedings, the Respondent shall duplicate and mail, at its
own expense, a copy of the notice to all current employees
and former employees employed by the Respondent at any
time since January 11, 2021.
(g) Within 21 days after service by the Region, file with the
Regional Director a sworn certification of a responsible official
on a form provided by the Region attesting to the steps that
the Respondent has taken to comply.
Dated at Washington, D.C., May 12, 2022.
APPENDIX
NOTICE TOEMPLOYEES
POSTED BY ORDER OF THE
NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD
An Agency of the United States Government
The National Labor Relations Board has found that we violated
Federal labor law and has ordered us to post and obey this no-
tice.
FEDERAL LAW GIVES YOU THE RIGHT TO
Form, join, or assist a union
Choose representatives to bargain with us on your be-
half
Act together with other employees for your benefit and
protection
Choose not to engage in any of these protected activi-
ties.
YOU HAVE THE RIGHT to discuss wages, hours and working
conditions with other employees and WE WILL NOT do anything
to interfere with your exercise of that right.
YOU HAVE THE RIGHT to freely bring matters and complaints
about wages, hours and working conditions to our attention and
WE WILL NOT do anything to interfere with your exercise of that
right.
WE WILL NOT discharge or otherwise discipline employees
for the exercise of the above rights or because of their other
protected concerted activities under Section 7 of the Act.
WE WILL NOT, in any like or related manner, interfere with,
restrain, or coerce employees in the exercise of the rights
listed above.
WE WILL offer Martin Lauster immediate and full rein-
statement to his former job, or if that job no longer exists, to
a substantially equivalent position, without prejudice to her
seniority or any other rights and privileges previously enjoyed.
WE WILL make Martin Lauster whole, with interest, for any
loss of earnings and other benefits suffered as a result of our
discrimination against him.
WE WILL remove from our files any references to the unlawful
action taken against Martin Lauster, notify him that this has
been done, and that that unlawful action will not be used against
him in any way.
WE WILL compensate Martin Lauster for the adverse tax con-
sequences, if any, of receiving a lump-sum backpay award, and
file with the Regional Director for Region 25, within 21 days of
the date the amount of backpay is fixed, either by agreement or
Board order, a report allocating the backpay award to the ap-
propriate calendar years.
WE WILL file with the Regional Director a copy of the corre-
sponding W-2 form reflecting the backpay award.
CAPITOL STREET SURGERYCENTER,LLC
The Administrative Law Judge’s decision can be found at
www.nlrb.gov/case/25-CA-271204 or by using the QR code
below. Alternatively, you can obtain a copy of the decision
from the Executive Secretary, National Labor Relations Board,
1015 Half Street, S.E., Washington, D.C. 20570, or by calling
(202) 273-1940.