251 NLRB 510
United Telephone Co. of Florida
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United Telephone Company of Florida and Interna-
tional Brotherhood of Electrical Workers, Local
Union No. 199. Case 12-CA-8558-2
August 25, 1980
DECISION AND ORDER
BY CHAIRMAN FANNING AND MEMBERS
JENKINS ANI) PENELLO
On April 30, 1980, Administrative Law Judge
Thomas D. Johnston issued the attached Decision
in this proceeding. Thereafter, the Charging Party
filed exceptions and a supporting brief, and Re-
spondent filed a brief in answer to the Charging
Party's exceptions.
Pursuant to the provisions of Section 3(b) of the
National Labor Relations Act, as amended, the Na-
tional Labor Relations Board has delegated its au-
thority in this proceeding to a three-member panel.
The Board has considered the record and the at-
tached Decision in light of the exceptions and
briefs and has decided to affirm the rulings, find-
ings, and conclusions' of the Administrative Law
Judge and to adopt his recommended Order.
ORDER
Pursuant to Section 10(c) of the National Labor
Relations Act, as amended, the National Labor Re-
lations Board adopts as its Order the recommended
Order
of the Administrative
Law Judge
and
hereby orders that the complaint be, and it hereby
is, dismissed in its entirety.
i In agreeing with the Administrative Law Judge's conclusion that Re-
spondent did not violate the Act. Chairman Fanning and Member Pen-
lilo do not rely on Baron Rouge Water Works Company, 246 NLRB No
161 (1979), in which they dissented.
DECISION
STATEMENT OF THE CASE
THOMAS D. JOHNSTON, Administrative Law Judge:
This case was heard at Ft. Myers, Florida on December
17 and 18, 1979,' pursuant to a charge filed on March 26
by International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers,
Local Union No. 199 (herein referred to as the Union),
and a complaint issued on July 30.
The complaint, which was amended at the hearing, al-
leges United Telephone Company of Florida (herein re-
ferred to as the Respondent), violated Section 8(a)(l) of
the National Labor Relations Act, as amended (herein
referred to as the Act), by interfering with, restraining,
and coercing its employees in the exercise of the rights
guaranteed in Section 7 of the Act by insisting that em-
ployee Willene Dudley not leave an interview which
Dudley reasonably believed would result in disciplinary
action toward her after she had refused to further par-
' All dates referred to are in 1979 unless otherwise stated.
251 NLRB No. 101
ticipate in the interview without union representation
and by suspending Dudley for three days because she
left said interview.
The Respondent, in its answer dated August 6, denies
having violated the Act as alleged.
The issues involved are whether the Respondent vio-
lated Section 8(a)(l) of the Act by unlawfully insisting
that Dudley remain at an interview and suspending her
for leaving the interview which she reasonably believed
would result in disciplinary action against her after she
had refused to further participate without union repre-
sentation.
Upon the entire record in this case and from my obser-
vations of the witnesses and after due consideration of
the briefs filed by the General Counsel and the Respond-
ent, 2 I hereby make the following:3
FINDINGS O: FACT
I. THE BUSINESS OF THE RESPONDENT
The Respondent, a Florida corporation with its princi-
pal office and place of business located at Ft. Myers,
Florida, is engaged in the business of providing tele-
phone service within a 13-county area of the State of
Florida. During the 12-month period preceding July 30,
a representative period, the Respondent in the course of
its operations received
gross revenues in excess of
$250,000 and it purchased and received goods, supplies,
and materials valued in excess of $50,000, which were
shipped to it directly from points located outside the
State of Florida.
The Respondent is an employer engaged in commerce
within the meaning of Section 2(6) and (7) of the Act.
II. THE LABOR ORGANIZATION INVOI.VED
International
Brotherhood
of Electrical
Workers,
Local Union No. 199, is a labor organization within the
meaning of Section 2(5) of the Act.
III. THE UNFAIR LABOR PRACTICES
A. Background
The Respondent operates a telephone service facility
located at Ft. Myers, Florida. Included among its super-
visory personnel are Toll Center Operations Supervisor
Gloria Bircher, Group Chief Operator Elizabeth McCar-
thy,4 Division Personnel Manager Gregory Ezell, Group
Chief Operator Sara Wester, and Dorothy Gibson, who
is the chief operator of directory assistance.
It employs approximately 1,600 employees, including
toll operators, who are in a bargaining unit represented
by the Union.
The Union's office is located across the street from the
Respondent's Ft. Myers facility where there are approxi-
mately five or six union stewards employed. Gerald
DeWolf is the business manager.
The Charging Party did not submit a brief.
:1 Unless otherwise indicated the findings are based upon the pleadings,
admissions, stipulations. and undisputed evidence contained in the record,
which I credit.
4 These two individuals are supervisors under the Act.
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According to Personnel Manager Ezell, Operations
Supervisor Bircher, Chief Operator Gibson, and Group
Chief Operators McCarthy and Wester, the practice has
been that, whenever an employee wants a union repre-
sentative to be present, the employee asks the supervisor
who will then obtain a union representative for the em-
ployee. 5
Based upon the undisputed testimony of these individ-
uals I find this to be the practice for requesting union
representation.
Once-a-month observations are conducted on each op-
erator by a group chief operator. The purpose of the ob-
servation is to determine the type service being given to
customers by that operator and whether the operator is
following the correct procedures and for training pur-
poses. These observations are conducted by the chief
group operator viewing the work of the operator from a
remote location on the same type of screen used by the
operator for a period of 39 minutes. The group chief op-
erator is able to hear and observe what the operator,
who is not aware at the time that he or she is being ob-
served, is doing and writes down each call the operator
makes and notes any failures on the calls and any train-
ing the operator needs to improve performance.
Upon completing the observation, the group chief op-
erator enters the results on the operator's work trend
record which is an itemized sheet of the operator's work
performance that is used for the operator's apprisals.
The group chief operator then has the operator taken
off the position on which the operator is working,
brought to the training table or office and informs the
operator about the things observed during the observa-
tion and the operator's performance. If any failures or ir-
regularities on the part of the operator were observed,
the operator is then informed of the correct procedures
which should have been followed and, to insure that the
operator then understands, the operator might be asked
how to handle such a call.
Nothing said during this discussion is entered on the
operator's work trend record and no discipline is intend-
ed to result from this discussion about the observation.
If the quality of an operator's work is unsatisfactory
on the observation, the group chief operator will inform
the operator during this interview that a followup obser-
vation will be conducted. This followup observation is
then conducted within the same month and normally in
the same manner as the observation.6 The purpose of the
followup observation is to determine whether the opera-
tor is utilizing the correct procedures on which addition-
al training had been given as a result of the initial obser-
vation.
The results of the followup observation are not re-
corded on the operator's work trend record.
After completing the followup observation, the group
chief operator then discusses with the operator what was
observed. Nothing said in this discussion is entered on
I The parties stipulated that Group Chief Operators Mary Butler,
Dorothy Mazyck, Ernestine Brown, Siggy Odle, and Violet McConnell
would also testify to this being the practice.
6 On occasion the group chief operator might sit in a position beside
the operator during the followup observation rather than at a remote lo-
cation.
the operator's work trend record and neither the follow-
up observation nor the discussions about it are used for
disciplinary purposes.
These findings regarding observations and followup
observations and discussions about them are based upon
the undisputed testimonies of Operations Supervisor
Hircher, Personnel Manager Ezell, and Group Chief Op-
erators McCarthy and Wester which I credit.
While no disciplinary actions are intended as a result
of the observations, followup observations, or discussions
about them themselves, Hircher, McCarthy, Ezell, and
Wester all acknowledged that any time an employee
commits a serious error whether it occurs during one of
these occasions or on any other occasion an employee
can be sent home.
Wester, Hircher, and McCarthy all denied any opera-
tors had ever requested union representation during the
discussions of observations or followup observations.
D. Events Preceding and Willene Dudley's Suspension
Willene Dudley, the alleged discriminatee,
has been
employed by the Respondent as a toll operator for ap-
proximately 10 years. Her duties include placing long-
distance and local telephone calls for customers and she
presently works under the supervision of Group Chief
Operator McCarthy. Dudley is a member of the Union
and is employed in the bargaining unit.
About February 5 or 6, Group Chief Operator McCar-
thy conducted a regular monthly observation of Dudley.
Operations Supervisor Hircher, who was observing Mc-
Carthy at the time, was also present. Both McCarthy and
Bircher stated that during the observation Dudley com-
mitted about 17 errors and 5 or 6 irregularities. An error,
as described by McCarthy, is more serious and can effect
the billing of a customer's call whereas an irregularity in-
volves such conduct as failinq to acknowledge common
courtesy to a customer.
Following this observation, Dudley was called into the
office that same day, at which time McCarthy discussed
the observation with her. Bircher, who stated she was
present to observe how McCarthy conducted the discus-
sion, was also present.
During the discussion,
McCarthy pointed out the
errors and irregularities to Dudley which she had ob-
served during the observation. Dudley testified she in-
formed them she did not believe she had made that many
errors because she had never had that many errors
before7 and tried to explain some of them were misun-
derstandings because she was sure of the work she had
done that day. Dudley also stated Bircher told her that
she could not tolerate that type of work and Dudley
would have to improve. She also stated that at the end
of the discussion McCarthy asked Bircher whether she
should record this on the record as counseling where-
upon Bircher replied, "Yes."8
7 According to Dudley, prior to this occasion four or five errors or
irregularities were the most she had ever received during an observation
I Bircher denied such a request was made to her but stated that Mc-
Carthy labeled it as counseling which meant to let her know improve-
ment was needed
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McCarthy testified she told Dudley her work was gen-
erally unsatisfactory.
Bircher also testified that while they were discussing
the observation Dudley called McCarthy a liar saying
she did not do any of that stuff, whereupon Bircher
stated she told Dudley she had observed the same thing
McCarthy had on the observation and that McCarthy
was not lying. Bircher further stated that McCarthy told
Dudley she would do a followup observation. According
to Bircher they did not ask Dudley whether she did any
of the things they had observed but only informed her
about what they had observed.
On Februrary 21, McCarthy conducted a followup ob-
servation on Dudley. She explained it was conducted be-
cause of the errors and irregularities Dudley made on the
monthly observation. After this followup observation,
Dudley was called into the office that same day at which
time it was discussed with her by McCarthy. Dudley tes-
tified that McCarthy informed her that the followup ob-
servation was not much better than the other observa-
tion, whereupon she became upset because she did not
feel she had committed the errors and irregularities on
the first observation and told McCarthy it could not be
true. Upon discussing it, she stated she disagreed with
the findings McCarthy said she had committed on the
followup observation. According to her, both she and
McCarthy had become loud whereupon Bircher came in
at which time she told Bircher what McCarthy had said
and stated she did not believe it because she did not be-
lieve some of the things they said about the first one.
Dudley then said that if McCarthy said she did all those
things, she was telling a lie whereupon Bircher replied
she had sat in on the first one and asked whether she was
callinq her a liar too. Dudley stated she informed
Bircher that if she was not telling the truth it was noth-
ing but a lie. Dudley testified that at this point she
became hysterical and jumped up and said, "Well, I'm
going to the union." When Bircher responded by telling
her no, that she was not going anywhere, she repeated
her statement about going over to the Union and then
said she was going to call the union manager. After
Bircher again said something about she could not do, or
to sit down, Dudley left the office, went to the facility's
lounge, and made a telephone call to the Union's Busi-
ness Manager DeWolf.
Subsequently, upon being asked by the General Coun-
sel why she told them she wanted to go to the Union,
Dudley for the first time stated she also told them she
did not have any alternative except to try to get help
and the Union was the only way she knew how.
According to Dudley her reasons for telling them she
wanted to go to the Union were because she had not
committed that many errors on one observation, the fol-
lowup observation was done and she denied she had ever
had a followup observation previously, this was the first
time something like this had ever happened to her, and
because she had told them it was a lie about her work
and they appeared upset and did not seem to like it.
McCarthy's version was that she informed Dudley she
had just done a followup observation on her and it was
not good but not nearly as bad as the one she had done
earlier. Dudley responded by talking in a loud voice
saying she had no right to do a followup observation on
her and that she already had her monthly observation.
About this time McCarthy heard Bircher, who was out-
side the room, tell another group chief operator to shut
the door because it was disturbing the toll room, where-
upon she asked Bircher to sit in on the discussion, which
Bircher did. While then going over the observation and
informing Dudley about the mistakes she had made,
Dudley denied in a loud voice she had made those mis-
takes, accused her of lying, and said she did not have to
listen to her saying that about her. Bircher, referring to
the first observation, said she had heard the same things
and asked Dudley whether she was calling her a liar too.
Dudley said she did not have to listen to this, that they
were always telling lies about her, that she was going
across the street, and then said she was going to the
Union. McCarthy stated several times she and Bircher
asked Dudley to lower her voice so they could finish
discussing the observation with her but Dudley refused.
Bircher, who corroborated McCarthy's testimony, fur-
ther stated that after Dudley said she was going to the
Union she informed Dudley to go on her own time and
asked her to sit down and let McCarthy finish covering
the observation. When Dudley stated she did not care
and was going across the street,
Bircher informed
Dudley she was being insubordinate and told her that if
she left the office just to go home she would contact her
when Dudley could come back. Dudley then left the
office.
Both McCarthy and Bircher denied they understood
Dudley requested union representation during this dis-
cussion of the followup observation.
To the extent the testimony of Dudley and that of Mc-
Carthy and Bircher differs, concerning the discussions
about the observations conducted about February 5 or 6
and on February 21, I credit the testimony of McCarthy
and Bircher rather than that of Dudley. Besides my ob-
servations of the witnesses in discrediting Dudley, her
testimony was both vague and contradictory and she
professed an inability to recall matters reasonably within
her own knowledge.
McCarthy's undisputed testimony, which I credit, es-
tablishes she had previously conducted observations of
Dudley, who had not requested union representation
during the discussions of those observations. Bircher also
credibly testified without denial that on one occasion in
1971, at a disciplinary interview, Dudley had requested of
her and was furnished with a union steward and that on
other occasions when she had planned to discipline
Dudley and offered to have a union steward present,
Dudley had refused.
While Dudley denied she had ever had a followup ob-
servation conducted before, Respondent's records and
the testimony of McCarthy, which I credit, establish that
followup observations were conducted and discussed
with Dudley on May 31, 1977, by McCarthy, and on
November 19, 1976, by Group Chief Operator Clara
Ford.
Respondent's records further reflect during the period
from August 4, 1970, through June 13, 1978, there were
23 corrective disciplinary actions taken against Dudley
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during which job stewards were either present or not
present and on some of these occasions job stewards
were not requested or not wanted by Dudley.
After Dudley talked to Business Manager DeWolf on
the telephone on February 21,9 she returned and talked
to Operations Supervisor Bircher, who had reported the
incident to Personnel Manager Ezell"' about returning
to work. Bircher, who denied being aware at the time of
Ezell's conversation with DeWolf, refused to allow
Dudley to return to work and stated she reminded
Dudley she had told her that if she left the office she
would contact her when she could go back to work.
Bircher further stated she told Dudley she could not go
to work in her condition which she described as being
loud and very nervous.
However, later that day a meeting to discuss the inci-
dent was arranged by Bircher at the direction of Ezell.
The meeting was attended by Dudley, Union Steward
Virginia Watkins, Group Chief Operator Wester, and
Operations Supervisor Bircher. During this meeting both
Bircher and Dudley related their versions about what
had occurred at the discussion of the followup observa-
tion. According to Bircher, whose testimony was cor-
roborated by Wester and undenied by Dudley, Union
Steward Watkins informed Dudley that her leaving the
office after being told not to was insubordination and
there was nothing she could do to help her. Wester also
denied Dudley mentioned she had been requesting union
representation.
Following this meeting, Bircher discussed the matter
with Ezell whereupon they both testified they agreed,
after reviewinq Dudley's record, to give Dudley a 3-day
suspension. The suspension notice, dated February 21, re-
flects Dudley was suspended for 3 days for insubordina-
tion by refusing a direct command.
C. Analysis and Conclusions
The General Counsel contends, while the Respondent
denies, that the Respondent violated Section 8(a)(1) of
the Act by unlawfully insisting that Dudley remain at an
interview and suspending her for leaving the interview
which she reasonably believed would result in disciplin-
ary action against her after she had refused to further
participate without union representation.
Section 8(a)(1) of the Act prohibits an employer from
interfering with, restraining, or coercing its employees in
the exercise of their rights guaranteed in Section 7 of the
Act.
Under Section 7 of the Act"
an employee has the
right to have union representation at an investigatory in-
terview which the employee reasonably believes might
result in disciplinary action. .L.R.B.
v. J. Weingarten,
Inc., 420 U.S. 251 (1975). The protection accorded em-
ployees covers both "investigatory" and "disciplinary"
interviews except for those interviews conducted for the
' Dudley did not lavec Respondents preminses
" Personnel
NManager Eell conttacted Businces, Manager
DeXWolf
about Dudley leasing the lob and I)e\A'olf informed him he had lalked Io)
Dudley on the telephone and old her to relurn ito work
, Sec 7 of the Act gu arantees to emploccs Ihce right io "engage in
concerted acti ities foir Ihe purpose of cllle iie
bargainlig or ther
mutual aid or proctillon "
exclusive purpose of notifying an employee of previously
determined disciplinary action. Baton Rouqe Water Works
Company. 246 NLRB No. 161 (1979). The test for deter-
mining whether an employee reasonably believes the in-
terview might result in disciplinary action is measured by
objective standards under all the circumstances of the
case rather than by an employee's subjective motivations.
.V.L.R.B. v. J. Weingarten. Inc., supra, at 257, fn. 5. Fur-
ther, to invoke this protection the employee must request
union representation.
The findings supra, establish that followup observa-
tions of operators by chief group operators and the dis-
cussions pertaining to these observations with the opera-
tors, as was the type involved in the instant case, are nei-
ther for investigatory nor disciplinary purposes but
solely for the purpose of observing the operator and then
informing the operator whether that operator is utilizing
the correct procedures on which additional training has
been given to the operator to correct errors or irregulari-
ties observed on the initial observation. Neither the re-
sults of the followup observations nor the discussions
concerning them are entered on the operator's work
trend record which is used for employee appraisals.
Dudley was no stranger to disciplinary actions and her
right to have union representation, having been involved
in numerous disciplinary actions throughout her employ-
ment with the Respondent on which occasions she was
either represented or not represented by the Union ac-
cording to her desires.
Contrary to her denials, Dudley had also been subject-
ed to followup observations and discussions about them
previously and would have heen aware of the nondisci-
plinary nature of such followup discussions. Moreover,
her failure to request union representation at the outset
of the discussion of the followup observation is further
indicative of her lack of belief that such interview could
result in disciplinary action. The fact that during the fol-
lowup discussion, in disputing the reported observations
of Group Operator McCarthy, she accused McCarthy,
Operations Supervisor Bircher, or both of lying about
what they had observed on the observations sould not
detract from the nature of the discussion itself since nei-
ther McCarthy nor Bircher responded by indicating oth-
erwise and merely expressed their desires to continue the
discussion about the followup observation. Under these
circumstances, I am persuaded and find that Dudley had
no reasonable grounds, based upon objective consider-
ations, for believing such discussion might result in disci-
plinary action.
Further, the findings establish that at no time did
Dudley ever expressly request to have union representa-
tion at this discussion. The fact that just before walking
out of the discussion she mentioned that she was going
over to the Union could not arguably be equated to or
construed as a request to have union representation pres-
ent at the discussion. Rather, it appears more logical that
she was expressing her intention to go to the Union and
complain about what she may have perceived to be dis-
crimination against her, which is an entirely different
matter and unrelated to the issue involved here.
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Therefore I find the discussion of the followup obser-
vation was not investigatory and could not lead to disci-
plinary action; Dudley had no reasonable grounds for be-
lieving the discussion might result in such action; and
Dudley also failed to request union representation, all of
which are essential elements in finding the violation al-
leged here.
Insofar as Dudley's 3-day suspension is concerned, the
evidence establishes it resulted from her insubordination
in walking out of the discussion contrary to her instruc-
tions by Operations Supervisor Bircher to remain and
complete the discussion and it was issued only after it
was first discussed with Dudley in the presence of and
with her union representative.
Based upon the foregoing reasons, I am persuaded and
find that the Respondent did not violate Section 8(a)(l)
of the Act, as alleged, by unlawfully insisting that
Dudley remain in an interview and suspending her for
leaving that interview.
CONCLUSIONS OF LAW
I. United Telephone Company of Florida is an em-
ployer engaged in commerce within the meaning of Sec-
tion 2(6) and (7) of the Act.
2. International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers,
Local Union No. 199, is a labor organization within the
meaning of Secticn 2(5) of the Act.
3. The Respondent did not violate Section 8(a)(1) of
the Act as alleged in the amended complaint.
Upon the foregoing findings of fact, conclusions of
law, and the entire record, and pursuant to Section 10(c)
of the Act, I hereby issue the following recommended:
ORDER 12
It is hereby ordered that the amended complaint be,
and it hereby is, dismissed in its entirety.
12 In the event no exceptions are filed as provided by Sec. 102.46 of
the Rules and Regulations of the National Labor Relations Board, the
findings, conclusions, and recommended Order herein shall, as provided
in Sec. 102.48 of the Rules and Regulations, be adopted by the Board and
become its findings, conclusions, and Order and all objections thereto
shall be deemed waived for all purposes.