327 NLRB 369
Solar International Shipping Agency
SOLAR INTERNATIONAL SHIPPING AGENCY
347
Solar International Shipping Agency, Inc., and Ship
Clerks Association Local 34, International
Longshore and Warehouse Union, AFL–CIO,
Petitioner. Case 20–RC–17464
December 31, 1998
ORDER
BY CHAIRMAN TRUESDALE AND MEMBERS
FOX, LIEBMAN, HURTGEN, AND BRAME
By letter dated November 6, 1998, the Employer re-
quested special permission to appeal the Hearing Offi-
cer’s ruling in the above case that the Region would pay
for interpreting the testimony of the Employer’s wit-
nesses only to the extent they gave testimony that is rele-
vant to the issues and that the Region determines is
needed to complete the record.1 The Employer contends
that the Hearing Officer’s ruling is unfair and conflicts
with the Agency’s policy regarding the payment of inter-
preters in representation hearings.
Having duly considered the matter, for the reasons set
forth below, we have decided to grant the Employer’s
request to appeal in order to clarify the Board’s position
on the payment of interpreters in representation proceed-
ings.
The relevant facts in the instant case are as follows.
The primary issue at the hearing was the supervisory
status of certain individuals. The parties agreed that at
least three witnesses, the Employer’s general manager
and assistant general manager (admitted manag-
ers/supervisors), and the operations manager (one of the
disputed individuals), would need a translator if they
testified. The Region therefore arranged for a translator
proficient in both Mandarin and Cantonese at the rate of
$120 per hour.
The Employer’s first witness was the disputed opera-
tions manager, and the translator provided by the Region
was used for his testimony. However, during the course
of the second and third days of hearing, a dispute arose
over whether the Region would also provide the inter-
preter for two other Employer’s witnesses, the general
manager and assistant general manager, if they were
called to testify. The Hearing Officer initially ruled on
the second day that the Region would not provide or pay
for an interpreter for their testimony because their own
positions were not at issue.
1 By letter dated November 4, 1998, the Employer also requested
special permission to appeal the Regional Director’s decision to pro-
ceed with the representation hearing notwithstanding that the Petitioner
Union had filed two unfair labor practice charges against the Employer
alleging violations of Sec. 8(a)(1) and (3) of the Act. We deny the
Employer’s appeal on that issue as moot. The record indicates that the
two unfair labor practice charges were filed on November 2, after the
hearing began. Although the Union did not file a request to proceed, the
Region did not immediately place the hearing in abeyance. Rather, the
Region exercised its discretion to continue with the scheduled hearing
while it reviewed the Union’s evidence in support of the charges to
determine if it presented a prima facie case. See NLRB Casehandling
Manual, Sec. 11730.1. Once the Region determined that the evidence
did present a prima facie case, it placed the hearing in abeyance. This
occurred on November 5, the day after the Respondent sent in its ap-
peal.
The Employer objected to this ruling, arguing that the
issues in the case are what the duties of the disputed in-
dividuals are, not what those individuals say their duties
are, and the testimony of the general manager and assis-
tant general manager is relevant to those issues. After
some further discussion, the Hearing Officer asked
whether the Employer would present an “offer of proof
of what it is these two witnesses would more specifically
testify to.” The Employer responded that it would do so
if the Union stipulated that three individuals in question
are statutory supervisors. The Union did not so stipulate,
and no specific “offer of proof” was made.
The following day, the Hearing Officer acknowledged
that she may have “misinformed” the parties regarding
the Region’s position on providing an interpreter. She
stated that the Region’s position was that it would pro-
vide and pay for an interpreter for any Employer wit-
nesses, but only to the extent they testified with respect
to the supervisory status of the individuals in issue; that
the Region would not provide a translator for any witness
to testify about any other issues unless those issues are
necessary to complete the record.
The Employer also objected to this ruling, arguing that
it was even more “cryptic” than the prior ruling. The
Employer argued that the ruling suggested that the trans-
lator would translate some questions but not others, and
that it left the Employer unsure how to proceed as there
may be a multitude of issues the witnesses needed to
testify about, including the supervisory issues. The Em-
ployer requested that the Region provide something in
writing to explain the procedure. The Hearing Officer
did not respond on the record to this request, and the
Employer subsequently filed the instant special appeal.
Having duly considered the matter, we agree with the
Employer that, under the circumstances, some further
clarification of the Hearing Officer’s ruling would have
been helpful. As indicated by the Employer, the General
Counsel’s long-standing policy has been to provide and
pay for interpreters in representation proceedings. This
policy was originally implemented in 1978 under then-
General Counsel John S. Irving. The policy and the rea-
sons therefor were fully set forth in a July 17, 1978
memorandum to all Regional Offices from then-
Associate General Counsel Joseph E. DeSio:
Recent experiences involving foreign language
witnesses at representation hearings have necessi-
tated a review of Regional Office practices with re-
spect to the retention and payment of interpreters.
The practice in some Regions has been to arrange
and pay for an interpreter in representation hearings
only where the Region subpoenaed a witness who
could not testify in English. In cases where the Re-
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gion did not subpoena the foreign language witness,
the party seeking the testimony was required to ob-
tain and compensate the interpreter. Other Regions
have obtained and paid for the services of an inter-
preter in any “R” case where the Region or a party
wishes to call a foreign language witness to testify.
Clearly, there is no uniform policy on this matter in
the Agency.
The Agency is mandated to resolve questions
concerning representation and is also responsible for
resolving objections and challenges to elections. To
achieve this goal in cases which require hearing, a
complete record must be obtained so that the issues
will be properly determined. In many instances for-
eign language witnesses may provide testimony to
assist the Agency in its determination, even though
the Regional Offices involved did not subpoena or
call the individual to testify at the hearing. More-
over, it is fundamental to the Act that persons cov-
ered by the statute be able to resort to, and partici-
pate in, its processes without the limitation imposed
by language differences. This is particularly signifi-
cant in representation cases where the Agency is re-
sponsible for a complete record.
Accordingly, in future representation case hear-
ings, both pre- and post-election hearings, where
foreign language witnesses are required, the Re-
gional Office will secure and pay for interpreter ser-
vices. It is expected that this policy will be adminis-
tered so as to obviate unnecessary expense or delay
in the processing of petitions. Therefore, during the
initial investigation of a representation case, the as-
signed Agent should be alert to any potential foreign
language issue and to inform the parties to apprise
the Regional Office promptly of a need for inter-
preter services.
This policy was subsequently reaffirmed in another memo-
randum to all Regional Offices from Associate General
Counsel DeSio dated November 1, 1990.
We agree with and endorse the foregoing policy. Fur-
ther, in agreement with the Employer, we find that the
policy applied in the instant pre-election representation
proceeding and that the Region therefore had an obliga-
tion, at least presumptively, to pay for an interpreter for
the Employer’s witnesses at the hearing.2
2 In this regard, we agree with the Employer that the Board’s recent
decisions in George Joseph Siding, 325 NLRB 252 (1998); and
Domsey Trading Corp., 325 NLRB 429 (1998), are not controlling
because they concerned the payment of interpreters in adversarial un-
fair labor practice proceedings. By contrast, a hearing in a representa-
tion proceeding “is nonadversary in character [and] is part of the inves-
tigation in which the primary interest of the Board’s agents is to insure
that the record contains as full a statement of the pertinent facts as may
be necessary for determination of the case.” Sec. 101.20(c) of the
Board’s Statements of Procedure.
We recognize that in these times of scarce resources
the Agency must take all reasonable steps to reduce its
costs, including interpreter costs. There are a number of
appropriate ways that the Regions may do this. For ex-
ample, where it is unclear whether a witness’ testimony
would be relevant or necessary, and the witness would
require a translator if called to testify, we believe it
would be appropriate for the Region or the hearing offi-
cer to request the party that intends to call the non-
English speaking witness to identify, either through a
formal offer of proof or any other method satisfactory to
the Region or the hearing officer, the nature of the testi-
mony to be given by the witness.3 The Region would
then be able to determine in advance (i.e., prior to retain-
ing an interpreter) whether that testimony will be proba-
tive of the issues and assist the Region’s investigation.4
Once the witness has been called, the hearing officer may
also properly exercise his/her discretion to limit the par-
ties’ examination of the witness to exclude irrelevant and
overcumulative material. See NLRB Casehandling
Manual, Sec. 11184.1.
As indicated above, in the instant case the Employer
stated on both the second and third days of hearing that
the testimony of the general manager and assistant gen-
eral manager would relate, at least in part, to the supervi-
sory status of the disputed individuals. The Employer,
however, declined to provide a more specific offer of
proof regarding their testimony in response to the Hear-
ing Officer’s request on the second day of hearing.
We do not pass on whether a more specific showing
was required. As indicated above, we will generally
leave it to the discretion of the Region or hearing officer
to determine whether a prior showing should be made
and how specific that showing should be. Further, it is
unclear from the record in this case whether the Region
or the Hearing Officer relied on the Employer’s failure to
make a more specific offer of proof in making their rul-
ing regarding the provision of interpreter services. The
Hearing Officer made no mention of the Employer’s fail-
ure to do so on the third day of hearing when she cor-
rected her prior ruling. Finally, even assuming arguendo
that a more specific showing would not be required be-
fore one of the two Employer’s witnesses testifies, it may
be that the Region or Hearing Officer will decide that a
more specific showing is required before the second wit-
ness testifies.
3 This inquiry could properly be made by the assigned Board agent
during the initial investigation of the representation case as well as by
the hearing officer at the subsequent hearing. As indicated in the 1978
DeSio memorandum, addressing such issues during the initial investi-
gation may avoid unnecessary expense or delay in processing the peti-
tion.
4 If the party declines to identify the nature of the witness’ testi-
mony, the Region could properly decline to retain an interpreter for that
witness’ testimony. The party would then have two choices: either
forego calling the witness or retain an interpreter for the witness itself.
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Accordingly, we will leave it to the Region and Hear-
ing Officer to determine in the first instance on remand
whether a more specific showing is required in this case
prior to retaining the interpreter for the Employer’s wit-
nesses.